Alcohol or Marijunana. Which is worst when overused?

[classical_hero]

Alcohol is definitely the more dangerous when overused in a single setting, but over time both of them do have terrible side effects, which is why I sill never touch

 

[warpus]

Alcohol is definitely the more dangerous when overused in a single setting, but over time both of them do have terrible side effects, which is why I sill never touch

Terrible long term side effects of marijuana?

Like what? Is it my well paying job? Or maybe my sarcastic sense of humour? Or maybe that cyst I have on my left ankle is due to my long-term use of teh whacky tabbacy?

 

[skadistic]

Terrible long term side effects of marijuana?

Like what? Is it my well paying job? Or maybe my sarcastic sense of humour? Or maybe that cyst I have on my left ankle is due to my long-term use of teh whacky tabbacy?

Lies! We all know any one who smokes pot is a lazy no good leech. They could never hold down a job. And if they could it would have to be at a fast food restaurant!!!


There are some effects of smoking for years to your lungs.

 

[classical_hero]

A bad case of the munchies. I mean American hardly needs any more fatsos as it is. Seriously it does play your mind. The mental problems that come with consistent use of it does make it dangerous. Their also talk of it being bad for you heart, but causing heart disease.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

It raises your metabolism significantly. I think that's the reason for the munchies.

 

[skadistic]

A bad case of the munchies. I mean American hardly needs any more fatsos as it is. Seriously it does play your mind. The mental problems that come with consistent use of it does make it dangerous. Their also talk of it being bad for you heart, but causing heart disease.

What exactly are these "mental problems that come with consistent use"?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

What exactly are these "mental problems that come with consistent use"?

Short term memory loss.

It also raises your metabolism significantly. I think that's the reason for the munchies.

 

[dutchfire]

Since one is illegal, knowing the answer is probably impossible.

Jaywalking is illegal. I think it's quite possible to determine the danger of jaywalking.

 

[warpus]

There are some effects of smoking for years to your lungs.

This i readily admit.

But if that reason alone is enough to ban the drug, then surely we should also be banning tabacco - which regular users smoke far more of on a daily basis.

The mental problems that come with consistent use of it does make it dangerous.

Is there evidence of this? I know thousands of hundreds of tens of pot smokers, and none of them are insane.

Short term memory loss.

That's a benefit, dammit! You can enjoy a movie over and over, for the first time!!

 

[lovett]

There are some effects of smoking for years to your lungs.

Which does make it particularily ironic that stronger strains are thought of as a detriment to health.

It shows a thorough misunderstanding and/or ignorance about the methods and danger of cannabis consumption.

I.e, given that smoking does significant damage to the lungs, naturally it is much better to smoke one or two joints, rather then ten, to achieve the same affect. Which stronger stuff allows. Yet somehow, policymakers and advocates manage to completely ignore the reduced risk of lung cancer, heart disease, emphysema (ect) that more potent strains engender.

 

[LucyDuke]

Yet somehow, policymakers and advocates manage to completely ignore the reduced risk of lung cancer, heart disease, emphysema (ect) that more potent strains engender.

Think of the children!

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[philippe]

Think of the children!

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Who let their children smoke weed?

 

[skadistic]

Short term memory loss.

It also raises your metabolism significantly. I think that's the reason for the munchies.

What were we talking about?

 

[skadistic]

Who let their children smoke weed?

Bad parents. There was news story not to long ago where these idiots had a small kid smoking a blunt. And given the kid was smoking it like a pro I have no doubt he had done it before.

 

[classical_hero]

Is there evidence of this? I know thousands of hundreds of tens of pot smokers, and none of them are insane.

http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/news/press08/050908.html

(Washington, DC)—Millions of American teens report experiencing weeks of hopelessness and loss of interest in normal daily activities and many of these depressed teens are using marijuana and other drugs, making their situation worse, according to a new White House report released today. The report, from the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP), reveals that marijuana use can worsen depression and lead to more serious mental disorders, such as schizophrenia, anxiety, and even suicide.

Research shows that some teens are using drugs to alleviate feelings of depression ("self-medicating"), when in fact, using marijuana can compound the problem. The report, released to coincide with May's Mental Health Awareness Month, shows a staggering two million teens felt depressed at some point during the past year, and depressed teens are more than twice as likely as non-depressed teens to have used marijuana during that same period. Depressed teens are also almost twice as likely to have used illicit drugs as non-depressed teens. They are also more than twice as likely as their peers to abuse or become dependent on marijuana. Marijuana use is associated with depression, suicidal thoughts, and suicide attempts.

"Marijuana is not the answer. Too many young people are making a bad situation worse by using marijuana in a misguided effort to relieve their symptoms of depression," said John P. Walters, Director, National Drug Control Policy. "Parents must not dismiss teen moodiness as a passing phase. Look closely at your teen's behavior because it could be a sign of something more serious."

Although marijuana use among teens has dropped by 25 percent since 2001, more teens use marijuana than all other illicit drugs combined. The new report, "Teen Marijuana Use Worsens Depression: An Analysis of Recent Data Shows 'Self-Medicating' Could Actually Make Things Worse," shows the following:

* Teens who smoke marijuana at least once a month are three times more likely to have suicidal thoughts than non-users;
* Using marijuana can cause depression and other mental illnesses;
* The percentage of depressed teens is equal to the percentage of depressed adults, but depressed teens are more likely than depressed adults to use marijuana and other illicit drugs;
* Teen girls who use marijuana daily are more likely to develop depression than girls who do not use marijuana;
* Depressed teens are also more likely than non-depressed teens to engage in other risky behaviors such as daily cigarette use and heavy alcohol use.

"Don't be fooled into thinking that pot is harmless," said Dr. Drew Pinksy, internist, addiction expert, and host of VH1's Celebrity Rehab. "Marijuana is an addictive drug. Teens who are already depressed and use marijuana may increase their odds of suffering from even more serious mental health problems."

In fact, the potency of smoked marijuana has risen consistently over the past decades and higher potency translates into serious health consequences for teens. Some studies show that higher potency marijuana may be contributing to an increase in the number of American teens seeking treatment for marijuana dependence. The risks associated with recent and long-term marijuana use include schizophrenia, other forms of psychosis, and even suicide. "Not only are adolescents at greater risk for drug abuse, but they may suffer more consequences," said Nora D. Volkow, M. D., Director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. "There is also some evidence that in vulnerable teens-because of genetic factors-the abuse of marijuana can trigger a schizophreniform disorder."

ONDCP is urging parents to pay closer attention to their teen's behavior and mood swings, and recognize that marijuana and other drugs could be playing a dangerous role in their child's life. Parents can take some concrete steps to protect their teen from marijuana and other illicit drug use:

* Look closer at your teen's behavior-moodiness may not just be a passing phase; it could be sign of depression or drug use;
* Recognize the warning signs of drug use and depression, including carelessness with grooming, change in behavior and friends, loss of interest in daily activities, and withdrawal from family;
* Be more involved: monitor your teen's activities; ask questions and know how he or she spends time; set limits about drug use with clear rules and consequences for breaking them.

For more information about what parents should know about the link between drug use and depression, visit: www.TheAntiDrug.com. The full report, "Teen Marijuana Use Worsens Depression: An Analysis of Recent Data Shows 'Self-Medicating' Could Actually Make Things Worse" can be accessed at http://www.theantidrug.com/pdfs/teen-marijuana-depression-report.pdf.

Since its inception in 1998, the National Youth Anti-Drug Media Campaign has been authorized by Congress to reduce and prevent teen drug use. For more information on the ONDCP National Youth Anti-Drug Media Campaign, visit www.TheAntiDrug.com.

This is from an official US Government study meaning that they would have had all the resources to have a proper look into this study.

I also have a friend who has Bi-polar and he recognises that it is more than likely that it is a result of his days of smoking marijuana.

 

[Fifty]

Bad parents. There was news story not to long ago where these idiots had a small kid smoking a blunt. And given the kid was smoking it like a pro I have no doubt he had done it before.

At my last apartment, the dad of the family below us used to smoke pot right around his kids on a near-daily basis. Not as bad as letting them smoke, of course, but still a pretty crappy parenting maneuver!

 

[skadistic]

Are they depressed because they use drugs or do they use drugs because they are depressed.

 

[philippe]

Yup. I agree, I mean, you don't have sex in front of your kids.

 

[holy king]

Yup. I agree, I mean, you don't have sex in front of your kids.

or drink beer!

 

[philippe]

or drink beer!

uh...

Is drinking a beer together with your 13,14 year-old son similar to that?