Alt-M?

Ytter

Chieftain
Joined
Nov 30, 2006
Messages
13
Hi everyone,

I sometime read that some of you are using ALT-M.

What does it do?

What should I do to be able to use it?

Tx
 
it will give you a popup reminder a "memo". I can't get it to work in vanilla. I think you have to have warlords or bts.
 
that is only available in a mod I believe.

on an unrelated note: try clicking ALT-O sometime... bye-bye 3D!
 
I think the mod is called 'BUG', unaltered gameplay, but i have never used it myself
 
^^Exactly..... I highly recommend it. You can find it here...
Besides the reminders, it has all the kind of warnings ( city goes healthy/unhealthy, happy unhappy, will grow/starve , city can whip/rush .... ), has a nice GP bar and a lot more.... Check it out ;)
 
that's what I said but these guys will shoot down your arguments quicker than Montezuma can declare war :)

PS I also think it's name "Unaltered Gameplay" is highly ironic
 
Doesn't it sound like cheating for you?

BUG will not give you more info that the one you can get in normal BtS ( in a very tiresome fashion, I must add.... )... so I don't consider it cheating.
 
well I don't agree obviously - I think the very nature of what it's doing is altering the gameplay but I understand there is another viewpoint. It's just a game meant to be fun. I just think you are playing a different game and there's nothing wrong with that.
 
It seems like many of the mods used in WoW that allowed people a much easier time when dueling, etc. the one i think stands out the most is the one that allowed you to auto-switch your weapons. I remembered watching a video of one guy who was manually able to switch his weapons out during duels, he must have been a lil p.o'd when someone made that mod :lol:
 
It seems like many of the mods used in WoW that allowed people a much easier time when dueling, etc. the one i think stands out the most is the one that allowed you to auto-switch your weapons. I remembered watching a video of one guy who was manually able to switch his weapons out during duels, he must have been a lil p.o'd when someone made that mod :lol:

Actually, there aren't any mods that actually alter gameplay or make it easier for the player in WoW. Like BUG, most WoW mods just reorganise information. Both Civ4 and WoW are meant to be competitive games to some degree. Giving any player an unfair advantage wouldn't be in the best interest of the company, as then they'd get a lot of nasty e-mails. And no one wants that.;)

The big difference is that Civ4 has a singleplayer mode and the option not to post your games on a forum, so modders are free to stack themselves up with an advantage. But, like the auto-weapon switch in WoW, the WB is easily available to anyone. No mods required!

So BUG, in my opinion, doesn't count as cheating because it just restates things you can find by looking around. If it to where all the other Civ's cities are, however...
 
Er, not to start an argument (which of course means I'm likely to ;) ), but BUG is nothing like WoW hacks. You're talking about a method of accelerating and automating a game whose challenge is in part based on keeping track of many things at once while under time pressure. BUG presents information more conveniently in a game where there is no time pressure, where all that information would be available to you without affecting gameplay in the slightest... as long as you're willing to check every single stat screen every single turn.

This is possible, it's just tedious and repetitive.

So, unless you consider "tolerance for tedious, repetitive tasks" a skill that should be left untouched as an essential part of the Civ IV challenge, BUG doesn't affect gameplay any more than scoreboards and announcers affect sports by freeing competitors from having to memorize scores while they play.
 
Actually, it does. Looking at the basketball scoreboard while you're still in the game is cheating. Lots of players get fouled out because they glance in the direction of the scoreboard without meaning to.
 
Actually, it does. Looking at the basketball scoreboard while you're still in the game is cheating. Lots of players get fouled out because they glance in the direction of the scoreboard without meaning to.
Uh, what? That's definitely wrong (I should know, I've been playing basketball for a good 12 years). :crazyeye:

I constantly check the scoreboard (and clock) to know what kind of plays to run and how hard to push defense (full press, half press, regular defense) etc etc etc.

Anyway, on-topic, alt-m is useful for giving yourself reminders :)
 
So, unless you consider "tolerance for tedious, repetitive tasks" a skill that should be left untouched as an essential part of the Civ IV challenge, BUG doesn't affect gameplay any more than scoreboards and announcers affect sports by freeing competitors from having to memorize scores while they play.

This pretty much sums up what I wanted to say so I'll just say: I agree.
 
while i hate to wade into this BUG argument, i'm going to.

though BUG really doesn't alter gameplay, it does, in fact, give the player an edge.

Yes, theoretically, all it does is reorganize info, but as Sullla pointed out in his RB rejection (see the BUG subforum for specifics), some of the data it grabs IS so tedious that no one takes the time to do it, and that is why it was rejected for RB events: it gives those using it such an edge, that those w/o suffer a definite disadvantage.

cheating, no ~ making your civ life easier, yes

still, though, I LOVE the BUG mod, and everyone should check it out :yup: :goodjob:
 
Back
Top Bottom