Altered Maps 2: Uber-Yugoslavia FTW

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This map is post WW2. We can see Russia and Kaliningrad. In WW2 Poland and France werent exactly the heroes. Nobody would let them grab that much first-class territory.

Speculating:
Russia would not let Poland grow
England would not let Benelux grow
Germans would resist the french landgrab

Hmm
USA lost the war. Japan conquered China and attacked Siberia, forcing USSR to retreat. French used the opportunity for landgrab. Poland.. no really i cant think of anything which would justify Poland getting more territory.

Say what?

What about Monte Casino? What about our Pilots saving Englands ass? What about the Poles in North Africa and their contribution to the American forces? What about us lasting for over a month versus Both an extremely strong Germany and Soviet Union with our outdated equipment? And the Enigma Code? Polish Underground supplying information to Russia? The Warsaw Ghetto? Our Paratroopers in Market Garden? Normandy? We did all of that Voluntarily. The Allies didn't even make us do those things! We could've stayed home and waited for help for a long time.

I'm sure Steph could come up with much more reasons about France.

Poland was a potential major partner For the soviet union. If thing's fell on a different route, then Poland could very well see more lands extreme Western Russia, espiecially along Lithuania, Belarus and Polish-Ukrainian Border.

If things carried out differently and the Allies reached Berlin instead of the Russians, then Poland could've very well gained more land from Germany. Bavaria could've been independent as well.

You sir, are ignorant about Polish History, which i've seen in many people before. Go on Wikipedia and tech yourself a bit.

/rant.

But seriously, i am incredibly surprised how people treat Poland as some random European country like Slovenia.
 
Hey now, there's nothing wrong with Slovenia.

Poland as a nation contributed an incredible amount of sweat, blood, and tears to the war effort, far more than many other nations on the planet.. but that is no reason to get wrapped up in nationalism like that and say something stupid about another country.

Be proud.. don't be a douche.
 
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Hey now, there's nothing wrong with Slovenia.

Poland as a nation contributed an incredible amount of sweat, blood, and tears to the war effort, far more than many other nations on the planet.. but that is no reason to get wrapped up in nationalism like that and say something stupid about another country.

Be proud.. don't be a douche.

:lol:

I was using it as an example, i love Slovenia, but it is small. :(

Maybe someone should make a Greater Slovenia Map?
 
Oh. My. God. And thats exaclty the reason why Poland is not in Civ4. It would require the entire Civilopedia to be rewritten. Going to wiki? Is thats where you got all the achievements, like Normandy, or voluntarely constructing the Warshaw Ghetto?

The Allies didn't even make us do those things!
I see.

Poland was a potential major partner For the soviet union.
Aha ha.
 
Oh. My. God. And thats exaclty the reason why Poland is not in Civ4. It would require the entire Civilopedia to be rewritten. Going to wiki? Is thats where you got all the achievements, like Normandy, or voluntarely constructing the Warshaw Ghetto?


I see.


Aha ha.

Poland could've easily made it into Civ 4 BTS instead of HRE. Look at my threads back then. (Actually don't, incase you join and "Poland is in Eastern Europe" threads in the future). Same with Austria, One of the two was going to make it in, and at then end Firaxis went with a second Germany...

What do you mean rewriting the civilopedia? Tell me where the Civilopedia would need to be rewritten? Point to me the article and paragraph.

Wait so our Paratroopers and others were not there in the push up from france? And we did not try to rebel in the Ghetto?

And we were, if things went differently, Poland could've been in the same position as Yugoslavia was towards SU between 46-89.
 
Wikipedia, what's that?
Thats the(only) place one can read more about the Great Poland, England's Savior, Invader of Normandy, Poland The Partner, allying with USSR and contributing USA. Poland the Resistant, Poland the Sufferer, losing all the Jews. Poland the landgrabber, having plans to annex Russia's territory. Poland the code cracker.(though thats probably the one which is more that 1% true, 2% maybe).

And the most important thing, Poland did all this voluntary. If not for Poland i fear there were no hope for the Allies. Unfortunately, like said it missed the Yalta conference, but im sure it would get more land, if participated.

TheLastOne36 said:
One of the two was going to make it in
There is absolutely no reason to include Poland in Civ.
 
Dear Poles.

You fought because you had to and you lost the war twice, once to the Germans and once to the Russians. After the war the Winning parties decided what your new borders should look like and that you should be communist. Thats how much you contributed, and thats how much anyone cared about you.
 
Dear Poles.

You fought because you had to and you lost the war twice, once to the Germans and once to the Russians. After the war the Winning parties decided what your new borders should look like and that you should be communist. Thats how much you contributed, and thats how much anyone cared about you.

In case your memory is so short...(AND makes this post legal)
 

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Dear Poles.

You fought because you had to and you lost the war twice, once to the Germans and once to the Russians. After the war the Winning parties decided what your new borders should look like and that you should be communist. Thats how much you contributed, and thats how much anyone cared about you.

Marry me?

In case your memory is so short...(AND makes this post legal)

World War II happened in 1648? Really?
 
World War II happened in 1648? Really?

hence, why i tried (and failed?) to allude to a better past, even though it isn't stricly on topic :mischief:
 
hence, why i tried (and failed?) to allude to a better past, even though it isn't stricly on topic :mischief:

This was a much better past.



~1500
 
i figured you'd have a map that shows Sweden rampaging all over Poland...
 


Europe by badassery per capita.

This started out as an evolution of Greater Slovenia. :p

Also, sorry for yet another Polish joke (the big nation is Lithuania). *ducks*
 
Apparently the place where ma daddy is right now doesn't exist.
 
One of my current online risk games.

My Northern European Empire before Im about to be massacred by the red guys troops. (I kicked him out of Poland, most of France, and Russia on my last turn, but couldn't quite finish him off. Big mistake.

 
wait, all of germany gone, and we get nothing? :mad:

oh...at least we somehow managed to become the HRE :king: a bit of a tiny empire, though :/
 
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