Altered Maps V: The Molotov-Threadentropp Pact

[Mirc]

Primative? actually its newer than the Latin one, and with a shorter alphabet to boot.

Huh? Russian has 33 characters, English has 26. Anyway, I don't see how that matters.

Agree. I think that germanic languages should use their own alphabet and not ours. Latinitas per semper!!

Agreed, to hell with those northern bastards and their alphabet stealing!

And since we're talking about Latin and Germanic peoples, here's a map of the invasions that the Romans suffered until the fall of the Western part of the Empire:

Spoiler :

I find the Vandals particularly funny. It occurred to me as I was reading about them, that they went back and forth and often ended up in a place where they've already been before. This map seems to confirm it, although I'm not sure just how accurate it is.

 

[Kyriakos]

So what?

Ancient Greece is about as close to modern-day Greece as Achaemenid Persia is to modern-day Iran. It was a different civilization on which modern Greece is loosely based, just like the rest of Europe. You seem to be claiming some sort of exceptional connection with it, which is ridiculous.

--- Anyway, this is a wrong thread for such discussion.

It is the wrong thread, i just couldnt resist after hearing your rhetoric. Having essentially the same language (koine greek, the language in which the gospels were written, can be read by any greek), and living continiously in the same area should suffice for a "serious connection" to a past civilization.

 

[holy king]

you were romans in between.

 

[Kyriakos]

you were romans in between.

Romaioi, yes. But the roman empire of the west fell, the eastern half was very clearly dominated by the greek culture. There are even speeches of emperors who refer to the people as "greek"
Btw the byzantine flag is my avatar, so you can gather what my view is of it

 

[Tani Coyote]

When they argue amongst themselves, some groups often fail to remember which ethnolinguistic group is the REAL owner of the world...

Orange - Burgundy, capital in Amsterdam.

Red - British Empire, capital in London.

Pink - Austrian Empire, capital in Vienna.

Green - Denmark-Norway, capital in Oslo.

Blue - Sweden, capital Stockholm.

Brown - Swiss Confederate Empire, capital in Genoa.

And last but not least...

Black - Großdeutschland

(No real racism here of course, I was just inspired to take Gangleri's comment about Germans sticking to their own language and somehow turn that into a Europe dominated by Germanics... )

 

[TheLastOne36]

Hmm... That might have inspired me.. I'll try to make Burgundy form Netherlands sometime on EU3...

 

[Dachs]

I find the Vandals particularly funny. It occurred to me as I was reading about them, that they went back and forth and often ended up in a place where they've already been before. This map seems to confirm it, although I'm not sure just how accurate it is.

The map is about as accurate as you'd expect. It doesn't account for most of the 410s and 420s meandering in Gaul and Spain because we don't actually know where exactly they were for most of that. But overall it's not bad.

 

[RedAlert]

1492 - Columbus's voyage to the Indies:

I know most of the borders aren't perfect, and I'm sure I forgot nations x y and z, but you get the idea.

 

[TheLastOne36]

So the Vikings set camps in Siberia now?

 

[Dachs]

So it would seem. That's pretty neat, RA.

 

[TheLastOne36]

Wait... So we'd also get Polynesians in Africa and Portugal!!! (Old world's equivalent to South America and California)

 

[choxorn]

Erm... I think the Dark Grey means "Uninhabited" or "No Country Here"...

Anyway, I see that you are all arguing about Alphabets and whether they should be used in various European countries. I find this stupid, and so will distract you all with the following map of regions of Europe so you can argue about that instead:

 

[Masada]

[Habitual whinge about Southeast Asia, otherwise]

So it would seem. That's pretty neat, RA.

Yeah, that is quite nifty.

Wait... So we'd also get Polynesians in Africa and Portugal!!! (Old world's equivalent to South America and California)

Mmm Portuguese people. Spicy!

 

[TheLastOne36]

Actually that is kind of interesting. The Polynesians would have very likely have colonized Africa in this timeline. The distances are even closer than in real life, and it isn't just Easter Island or anything, it is real Polynesian empires and kingdoms like Tonga and stuff that are near the Old World.

 

[Karalysia]

Poland should be part of North Africa in that map.

 

[say1988]

Inspired by RedAlert, Columbus' voyage, if the Americas did not exist:

 

[TheLastOne36]

I finished the map part of the Balkans region:

NOTE: These are modern borders on a WWI map (excluding Basarabia, Macedonia and areas around Thrace)

Slovakia and Poland are next on my todo list.

 

[mythmonster2]

Or, if America did exist, but was a lot closer. Like, a LOT closer.
Kinda big:

Spoiler :

 

[Tee Kay]

Noooo you crushed Iceland!

 

[mythmonster2]

Psh. Isn't it obvious I just replaced it with Newfoundland?