Alternative History Experiment
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Cobalt Command
Destroyer of Worlds
Woot! Didn't think I'd get this out in time for the update. As a side note, this story takes place roughly half way up the Darling River.
I wasn't sure if I've violated anything with the story, but in such a case, someone please let me know so that I can edit this post immediately.
I wasn't sure if I've violated anything with the story, but in such a case, someone please let me know so that I can edit this post immediately.
Spoiler These Places We Tread :
Points:
Ahklain: 0
Anicistor: 1
Baildughciarad: 1
Dalycana: 1
Fravaria: 0
Ik: 3
Ilfeinoi: 2
Kautian: 0
Khamba: 2
Kraenn: 0
Materan: 1
Ranna: 2
Serkot: 0
Waarsazian: [+1 bonus point for a good story, extra kudos if it can be incorporated into your orders]
Waldigo: 1
Ahklain: 0
Anicistor: 1
Baildughciarad: 1
Dalycana: 1
Fravaria: 0
Ik: 3
Ilfeinoi: 2
Kautian: 0
Khamba: 2
Kraenn: 0
Materan: 1
Ranna: 2
Serkot: 0
Waarsazian: [+1 bonus point for a good story, extra kudos if it can be incorporated into your orders]
Waldigo: 1
Culture name: Serkot
Description: More and more Serkotese migrants arrive in the delta, further increasing the region's population. Adding to the rising population stresses are cultural views propagated (sometimes literally) by the Water-Priests which ascribe great value to having a large number of children.
Priorities: The rising populations on the Lower Serkot river will spawn great competition, possibly prompting militarization, more advanced social organization, and agriculture.
Spending: Nothing
Description: More and more Serkotese migrants arrive in the delta, further increasing the region's population. Adding to the rising population stresses are cultural views propagated (sometimes literally) by the Water-Priests which ascribe great value to having a large number of children.
Priorities: The rising populations on the Lower Serkot river will spawn great competition, possibly prompting militarization, more advanced social organization, and agriculture.
Spending: Nothing
Cobalt Command
Destroyer of Worlds
I'm confused; how many points do I have exactly?
And is there going to be a list of specific traits we can spend these points on, or did I miss something?
And is there going to be a list of specific traits we can spend these points on, or did I miss something?
Will i be able to join in? And will i have spending points?
mythmonster2
BEC NOIR! RUN!
Well, here are my orders. Since I have no points, I guess I can't do anything major, so here is my minor story.
Shaan looked at the hills. He could feel an odd feeling in the air, as is it was heavy. But that was impossible. The air always felt nice and light. No matter. He was sent to find a new oasis, as the old one had mysteriously started getting smaller. He glanced at his partner, Rashnik, who was walking over the hill. Rashnik stopped, so Shaan went to see what happened. As he got over the hill, he too was stunned. Water as far as the eye could see! The two looked at each other then back at the water, then they yelled in delight. Shaan was the first to run towards the giant oasis, and he jumped in, clothes and all. But when he scooped his hands and took a great drink of the water, he instantly spit it out.
"What kind of water is this? We cannot drink it!"
Rashnik, always curious, took a drink of the water and spit it out, but he retched. Despite the undrinkability, the two went back to the camp to tell the clan leader about it. The next day, it was decided that they would move to this great water, and they did. As they approached it, Shaan noticed something inside the water, and he reached in and grabbed it. In his hand was the strangest creature he had ever seen, covered in hard skin, with giant eyes, and no hands or legs! On his way to show the creature to the clan leader, he noticed it stopped trying to move. How had it died, when it could live in the water, Shaan thought. Unless... it could breath water? No, no, that is a silly idea. But since it was dead anyway, he continued to himself, might as well eat it. With some difficulty, the hard skin was peeled off and he started a small fire with some small scrubs. As he bit into it, he fell in in love with the food. It was better than anything he had ever eaten before. Surely, everyone must learn about it!
In a few words, just move to the stinking coastline. Fishing hasn't been discovered, as there aren't any boats, nets, or spears (yet) so they just stand in shallow water and hope they can catch one of the slippery little things.
Shaan looked at the hills. He could feel an odd feeling in the air, as is it was heavy. But that was impossible. The air always felt nice and light. No matter. He was sent to find a new oasis, as the old one had mysteriously started getting smaller. He glanced at his partner, Rashnik, who was walking over the hill. Rashnik stopped, so Shaan went to see what happened. As he got over the hill, he too was stunned. Water as far as the eye could see! The two looked at each other then back at the water, then they yelled in delight. Shaan was the first to run towards the giant oasis, and he jumped in, clothes and all. But when he scooped his hands and took a great drink of the water, he instantly spit it out.
"What kind of water is this? We cannot drink it!"
Rashnik, always curious, took a drink of the water and spit it out, but he retched. Despite the undrinkability, the two went back to the camp to tell the clan leader about it. The next day, it was decided that they would move to this great water, and they did. As they approached it, Shaan noticed something inside the water, and he reached in and grabbed it. In his hand was the strangest creature he had ever seen, covered in hard skin, with giant eyes, and no hands or legs! On his way to show the creature to the clan leader, he noticed it stopped trying to move. How had it died, when it could live in the water, Shaan thought. Unless... it could breath water? No, no, that is a silly idea. But since it was dead anyway, he continued to himself, might as well eat it. With some difficulty, the hard skin was peeled off and he started a small fire with some small scrubs. As he bit into it, he fell in in love with the food. It was better than anything he had ever eaten before. Surely, everyone must learn about it!
In a few words, just move to the stinking coastline. Fishing hasn't been discovered, as there aren't any boats, nets, or spears (yet) so they just stand in shallow water and hope they can catch one of the slippery little things.
Daftpanzer
canonically ambiguous
This is one of the many NESes that have escaped my awareness recently. That is probably not difficult lol. But anyway I would like to join if I can as a new name written in the darkness 
Culture name: Brezli
Starting point: Eastern Pyrenees / Catalonia
Description: At our root we are still hunter-gatherers. In the dawn of time our ancestors roamed far and wide, but there are too many people around these days, so we have been boxed in. Reluctantly we are starting to depend more on fixed farming areas, maybe even venturing along the coast doing some fishing.
Our tribe puts great value in loyalty, respect and wisdom. Hatred and contempt are shameful weaknesses. Envy is also weakness, and a misunderstanding - the great earth and great sky will provide for all who truly deserve it.
The (male) head of the tribe is usually the one with the most accumulated kudos. But the elder women make a lot of decisions on day-to-day life. Only women 'own' land, which is passed on to their eldest daughter if possible. The women traditionally know more about planting and farming, and are valued for this. Women pick their (main) husbands and not the other way around - it is a dishonour to refuse. The men work on handicrafts (like making spears, bows and simple boats) and try to keep themselves fit and strong. There is inevitably fighting to be done with quarrelsome neighbouring tribes - this is the time for young men to show their valour and earn kudos for themselves and their family. A noble death is to be rejoiced - as we know, the spirit realm allows the souls of brave warriors to skip to the front of the queue for reincarnation, if they so choose.
Our ancestors discourage us from putting too much value into material trinkets. Be we do like to collect and hoard such things when we can, to be exchanged for useful items such as goats and clothing when the oracles tell us a bad winter is ahead (who knows, maybe we have some long distance trade with Fravaria going on via intermediaries).
Priorities: Just try to survive as a footnote in history for now. Our conquest of the world starts later. I can haz bronze swords plz?
PS: I hope you have fun with this Masada! If I could re-run my ATBE I would have had a lot more dramatic rises and falls. I'm pleased to see this seems to be a theme you have going here.
Culture name: Brezli
Starting point: Eastern Pyrenees / Catalonia
Description: At our root we are still hunter-gatherers. In the dawn of time our ancestors roamed far and wide, but there are too many people around these days, so we have been boxed in. Reluctantly we are starting to depend more on fixed farming areas, maybe even venturing along the coast doing some fishing.
Our tribe puts great value in loyalty, respect and wisdom. Hatred and contempt are shameful weaknesses. Envy is also weakness, and a misunderstanding - the great earth and great sky will provide for all who truly deserve it.
The (male) head of the tribe is usually the one with the most accumulated kudos. But the elder women make a lot of decisions on day-to-day life. Only women 'own' land, which is passed on to their eldest daughter if possible. The women traditionally know more about planting and farming, and are valued for this. Women pick their (main) husbands and not the other way around - it is a dishonour to refuse. The men work on handicrafts (like making spears, bows and simple boats) and try to keep themselves fit and strong. There is inevitably fighting to be done with quarrelsome neighbouring tribes - this is the time for young men to show their valour and earn kudos for themselves and their family. A noble death is to be rejoiced - as we know, the spirit realm allows the souls of brave warriors to skip to the front of the queue for reincarnation, if they so choose.
Our ancestors discourage us from putting too much value into material trinkets. Be we do like to collect and hoard such things when we can, to be exchanged for useful items such as goats and clothing when the oracles tell us a bad winter is ahead (who knows, maybe we have some long distance trade with Fravaria going on via intermediaries).
Priorities: Just try to survive as a footnote in history for now. Our conquest of the world starts later. I can haz bronze swords plz?
PS: I hope you have fun with this Masada! If I could re-run my ATBE I would have had a lot more dramatic rises and falls. I'm pleased to see this seems to be a theme you have going here.
Cynovolans
Not in my dimension.
Orders for this turn:
Culture Name:Materan
Economic Description: The Materonzi tribe of Arabia will domesticate the camel and keep it in large numbers. The camel will be used for milk, meat, and transportation. Using the camel the tribes will be able to move faster and farther before. Contact and trade between the Arabic tribes will start, but not flourish.
Cultural Description: The Materonzi tribe, seeing the camel becoming a necessity to their nomadic lifestyle will starting worshiping it as another God and add a fifth God to the four original Materan Gods.
Kulomizi-God of Camels and the Desert
The Materenoaa tribe will continue to worship the four original Gods of the Materan. Materan tribes will start creating more folktale-like legends adding smaller deities to their culture.
Military Description: The Materonzi tribe will start becoming more warlike as they migrate north to a more populated portion of the Arabian peninsula. Camels will be not be used in war often because the number of soldiers will largely outnumber the population of camels in a tribe.
Priorities:
-Domesticating and using the camels for milk, meat, and transportation in the Materonzi tribe. 1 point
-Migrating to the northern part of the Peninsula.
-The Materans will continue there migrations south.
I'll try to write a story soon.
Culture Name:Materan
Economic Description: The Materonzi tribe of Arabia will domesticate the camel and keep it in large numbers. The camel will be used for milk, meat, and transportation. Using the camel the tribes will be able to move faster and farther before. Contact and trade between the Arabic tribes will start, but not flourish.
Cultural Description: The Materonzi tribe, seeing the camel becoming a necessity to their nomadic lifestyle will starting worshiping it as another God and add a fifth God to the four original Materan Gods.
Kulomizi-God of Camels and the Desert
The Materenoaa tribe will continue to worship the four original Gods of the Materan. Materan tribes will start creating more folktale-like legends adding smaller deities to their culture.
Military Description: The Materonzi tribe will start becoming more warlike as they migrate north to a more populated portion of the Arabian peninsula. Camels will be not be used in war often because the number of soldiers will largely outnumber the population of camels in a tribe.
Priorities:
-Domesticating and using the camels for milk, meat, and transportation in the Materonzi tribe. 1 point
-Migrating to the northern part of the Peninsula.
-The Materans will continue there migrations south.
I'll try to write a story soon.
Cobalt Command
Destroyer of Worlds
Given it's that night of the tomorrow you mentioned, I was afraid I wouldn't get my orders in on time. While my questions still linger, I felt I should get what I can in. Looking forward to the update!
Spoiler For Masada's Eyes Only :
civver_764
Deity
Why don't I get any points?
Kentharu
Zebra Commander
Culture name: Ik
Description:
Cultural:- Continued movement towards a militaristic society. That is to say a structured military society, this should not be confused with blind conquering frenzies. The main purpose of this militaristic nature is to serve as a vanguard for trade ambitions via either conquering more land or using that conquered lands and military presences to secure trade points of interest.
Shift the use of writing from a strictly religious point of view, to a more administrative view, such as recording taxes and tributes. This will permeate greatly the military structures as the majority of administration is part, or has close ties to, the military.
Continue expansion, however on a more rapid scale, towards Jerusalem with the same policy as before however more strictly institute it. This should mean harder crack downs on rebellion. This would mean conquest through the Sinia Peninsula region and up the coast. The Sinia Peninsula should be strongly controlled and used as a trade hub between the Mediterranean and the Red Sea, and hopefully beyond.
This new wave of conquest should be fueled by a feeling of cultural superiority, much like that of the Romans, as viewing most everyone as wild and untamed. This shall be incorporated into the religion which will maximize the effect by claiming that Anu, the god of the land, must have more subjects brought under his will, and hence more land. Slavery will also be a validation of the Ik cultural superiority.
This should not be confused with racial superiority however this will happen inevitably. I simply mean that it should not directly support racial superiority.
A decent effort should also be made to create a simple number system, to log quantities of whatever, tributes, taxes, how many sheep I porked.
The first monument of conquest should be built, which I will explain latter.
Military:- As outlined previously, a new wave of military conquest should begin as soon as possible. However this should not lead to over extension, although by default it will probably happen. Never the less armies should focus on acquiring and subduing new territory. Do not be afraid of wiping out villages that seek to oppose the Ik. This should not be confused with a large scale genocidal wiping of a specific population, simply rooting out especially rebellious villages before they can spread rebellion.
Villages that do resist, but put up only minor resistance, should also be punished but in the form of slavery. However the entire village would not be enslaved, just enough to remove the threat of full scale rebellion. These slaves will be distributed strategically across the empire, hence neutralizing their combined threat and removing their will to rebel as well as their cultural identity. This should allow for easier cultural assimilation.
Begin using, if possible and where applicable, camels for mounted combat. Obviously the desert would be a prime place for this. However mounted camel units adversely effect horses (something about the smell makes horses more likely to break formation and run away). Like wise also use horses but obviously do not keep them together.
As outlined in the cultural part, writing should be used to help coordinate military strikes as well as pass on existing military strategy and doctrine there by allowing for greater effectiveness against known enemies through logging their strategies and also logging what worked against them. This should increase the effectiveness of my army as well as stop little things like supplies being stolen and . .. .. .. ., from going unnoticed.
This would also influence map making.
In addition to all this, an effort should be made to construct a navy and start becoming experienced in naval combat as well as navigation. All the structural components exist for fast paced production of good quality ships, however I understand if it doesn't happen. My reasoning behind its emergence is a need to protect Ik trade interests, mainly trade vessels from raiders and such.
This should also be used to facilitate expansion through keeping supply lines open and well fed, but offensive use of the navy should be kept to a minimum.
Finally as a general rule, trade interests should be secured by the military if possible.
Economic:- Firstly, naval trade should significantly increase with the control of the Sinilia Peninsula. This opens up two possible trading grounds. Trade posts should be set up and have visible representations of the Ik so whoever we trade with, know about the Ik and there fore increase my cultural influence. Trade should be seen as a way to spread Ik culture and should be conducted just as aggreesively as my military expansion has.
Camels should also be used (if domesticated) as pack animals to travel further into the desert and open up routes with more people.
Roads should also be "constructed" in an attempt to firmly established trade routes and fasten the pace of existing trade. I would assume these would be simple dirt paths that are more firmly stamped down however if it is possible pave them with clay bricks or what have you (whatever feasible building material that is available).
This trade expansion should be just as structured and coordinated as military expansion and in most cases will follow military expansion.
The Wonder:- What it specifically looks like is irrelevant however it should be abstract in a certain sense. It will be a representation of conquest, like a clenched fist or whatever. It should also be made in the most economically important city there by capitalizing on the already strong economy and boosting it with an influx of people. It should be big, it should be flashy. Use the slaves mentioned previously as some of the labor force, if not all (if that many slaves can be gathered)
Priorities:
Expansion toward OTL Jerusalem and beyond if possible
Domestication of Camels (for use as burden animals as well as war animals)
Further development of military (strategy, tactics, doctrine, improving on structural aspects)
Further increase of trade routes
Further development of governmental structures.
Coinage
Development of Navy, use it to protect naval trade routes and supply armies (ships can cover more ground and carry more supplies for less labor)
The Wonder:- Fist of Anu, although it doesn't necessarily have to be a fist.
Spending:
1 point to military expansion and all things that facilitate this expansion (logistics and support yada yada yada) A little into forming a navy.
1 point to aggressive economic expansion (normally following in the wake of military conquest, but not limited to it as with naval trade)
1 point strictly towards the Wonder.
Description:
Cultural:- Continued movement towards a militaristic society. That is to say a structured military society, this should not be confused with blind conquering frenzies. The main purpose of this militaristic nature is to serve as a vanguard for trade ambitions via either conquering more land or using that conquered lands and military presences to secure trade points of interest.
Shift the use of writing from a strictly religious point of view, to a more administrative view, such as recording taxes and tributes. This will permeate greatly the military structures as the majority of administration is part, or has close ties to, the military.
Continue expansion, however on a more rapid scale, towards Jerusalem with the same policy as before however more strictly institute it. This should mean harder crack downs on rebellion. This would mean conquest through the Sinia Peninsula region and up the coast. The Sinia Peninsula should be strongly controlled and used as a trade hub between the Mediterranean and the Red Sea, and hopefully beyond.
This new wave of conquest should be fueled by a feeling of cultural superiority, much like that of the Romans, as viewing most everyone as wild and untamed. This shall be incorporated into the religion which will maximize the effect by claiming that Anu, the god of the land, must have more subjects brought under his will, and hence more land. Slavery will also be a validation of the Ik cultural superiority.
This should not be confused with racial superiority however this will happen inevitably. I simply mean that it should not directly support racial superiority.
A decent effort should also be made to create a simple number system, to log quantities of whatever, tributes, taxes, how many sheep I porked.
The first monument of conquest should be built, which I will explain latter.
Military:- As outlined previously, a new wave of military conquest should begin as soon as possible. However this should not lead to over extension, although by default it will probably happen. Never the less armies should focus on acquiring and subduing new territory. Do not be afraid of wiping out villages that seek to oppose the Ik. This should not be confused with a large scale genocidal wiping of a specific population, simply rooting out especially rebellious villages before they can spread rebellion.
Villages that do resist, but put up only minor resistance, should also be punished but in the form of slavery. However the entire village would not be enslaved, just enough to remove the threat of full scale rebellion. These slaves will be distributed strategically across the empire, hence neutralizing their combined threat and removing their will to rebel as well as their cultural identity. This should allow for easier cultural assimilation.
Begin using, if possible and where applicable, camels for mounted combat. Obviously the desert would be a prime place for this. However mounted camel units adversely effect horses (something about the smell makes horses more likely to break formation and run away). Like wise also use horses but obviously do not keep them together.
As outlined in the cultural part, writing should be used to help coordinate military strikes as well as pass on existing military strategy and doctrine there by allowing for greater effectiveness against known enemies through logging their strategies and also logging what worked against them. This should increase the effectiveness of my army as well as stop little things like supplies being stolen and . .. .. .. ., from going unnoticed.
This would also influence map making.
In addition to all this, an effort should be made to construct a navy and start becoming experienced in naval combat as well as navigation. All the structural components exist for fast paced production of good quality ships, however I understand if it doesn't happen. My reasoning behind its emergence is a need to protect Ik trade interests, mainly trade vessels from raiders and such.
This should also be used to facilitate expansion through keeping supply lines open and well fed, but offensive use of the navy should be kept to a minimum.
Finally as a general rule, trade interests should be secured by the military if possible.
Economic:- Firstly, naval trade should significantly increase with the control of the Sinilia Peninsula. This opens up two possible trading grounds. Trade posts should be set up and have visible representations of the Ik so whoever we trade with, know about the Ik and there fore increase my cultural influence. Trade should be seen as a way to spread Ik culture and should be conducted just as aggreesively as my military expansion has.
Camels should also be used (if domesticated) as pack animals to travel further into the desert and open up routes with more people.
Roads should also be "constructed" in an attempt to firmly established trade routes and fasten the pace of existing trade. I would assume these would be simple dirt paths that are more firmly stamped down however if it is possible pave them with clay bricks or what have you (whatever feasible building material that is available).
This trade expansion should be just as structured and coordinated as military expansion and in most cases will follow military expansion.
The Wonder:- What it specifically looks like is irrelevant however it should be abstract in a certain sense. It will be a representation of conquest, like a clenched fist or whatever. It should also be made in the most economically important city there by capitalizing on the already strong economy and boosting it with an influx of people. It should be big, it should be flashy. Use the slaves mentioned previously as some of the labor force, if not all (if that many slaves can be gathered)
Priorities:
Expansion toward OTL Jerusalem and beyond if possible
Domestication of Camels (for use as burden animals as well as war animals)
Further development of military (strategy, tactics, doctrine, improving on structural aspects)
Further increase of trade routes
Further development of governmental structures.
Coinage
Development of Navy, use it to protect naval trade routes and supply armies (ships can cover more ground and carry more supplies for less labor)
The Wonder:- Fist of Anu, although it doesn't necessarily have to be a fist.
Spending:
1 point to military expansion and all things that facilitate this expansion (logistics and support yada yada yada) A little into forming a navy.
1 point to aggressive economic expansion (normally following in the wake of military conquest, but not limited to it as with naval trade)
1 point strictly towards the Wonder.
Culture name: Ilfeinoi
Description:
Traditionalist Ilfeinoi try to move away from the bad influence of Gintainai and other aggressive people and try fleeing to places where they won't be raided. If they can't find any, they are likely to become agressive or extinct as their culture may be absorbed by aggressive neighbours like the Gintainai.
Northern Gintainai keep moving in search of wives to raid. Having had little success militarily against Gettea, they keep moving westwards, keeping a nomad lifestyle, raiding on their way. Given this region is likely more settled than their native Iran, they will find out that there are more riches to steal so they tend to become more and more "parasitic" with regards to settled people.
Southern Gintainai are settling down more and more. Some build villages which they protect with palisades and leave only a few men to defend their wives when leaving for raids or lengthy trips. They are still mostly herders, with their Ranna wives slowly teaching them agriculture. Hunting is akways considered essential, and the cult of the Eagle insists on hunting as a most important quality for men. However, women are slowly bringing their own beliefs to the lot, and the Mare Goddess is no longer the only deity they worship.
Southern Gintainai become polygamist, having several wives and wanting more.
They view the Ranna neighbours as wife breeders and some start applying the same reasoning they used to go from hunting to herding: Wouldn't it be easier to herd Ranna women and use their men to provide food rather than hunt/raid them?
They must therefore find ways to force the Ranna out of their walls. Crossing the rivers to attack them is one way, but looks doomed to failure. Getting allied with a city state to attack another one and get slaves is another. Once rivers are crossed, anything can happen, and sieges will allow for plenty of pillaging the countryside while defenders remain hidden behind their walls. If there is no opportunity for such campaigns, Gintainai will try to force the Ranna to cross the rivers themselves, by sneaking people into their lands who will burn crops, poison wells, kill people, in order to provoke the Ranna into attacking. If that works, they will try to defeat Ranna on the east side of the Tigris and then concentrate on the defeated city to get a foothold on the west bank.
Gintainai will happily lend their services as mercenaries in exchange for food, women and slaves. Both between themselves and for Ranna (or even Gettea) city states.
The creation of oranised military bands will go along with the unification of some tribes by force, and some tribes leaders will rule over smaller tribes, eventually giving rise to one or several khans ruling large numbers of subjects.
Priorities:
Ilfeinoi and northern Gintainai migrate far from each other, looking respectively for empty space and for easy targets.
Southern Gintainai start settling down and try to develop slavery.
Southern Gintainai develop mercenary habits.
Spending:
Migration (northern Gintainai and traditionalists)
Leadership (southern Gintainai)
Description:
Traditionalist Ilfeinoi try to move away from the bad influence of Gintainai and other aggressive people and try fleeing to places where they won't be raided. If they can't find any, they are likely to become agressive or extinct as their culture may be absorbed by aggressive neighbours like the Gintainai.
Northern Gintainai keep moving in search of wives to raid. Having had little success militarily against Gettea, they keep moving westwards, keeping a nomad lifestyle, raiding on their way. Given this region is likely more settled than their native Iran, they will find out that there are more riches to steal so they tend to become more and more "parasitic" with regards to settled people.
Southern Gintainai are settling down more and more. Some build villages which they protect with palisades and leave only a few men to defend their wives when leaving for raids or lengthy trips. They are still mostly herders, with their Ranna wives slowly teaching them agriculture. Hunting is akways considered essential, and the cult of the Eagle insists on hunting as a most important quality for men. However, women are slowly bringing their own beliefs to the lot, and the Mare Goddess is no longer the only deity they worship.
Southern Gintainai become polygamist, having several wives and wanting more.
They view the Ranna neighbours as wife breeders and some start applying the same reasoning they used to go from hunting to herding: Wouldn't it be easier to herd Ranna women and use their men to provide food rather than hunt/raid them?
They must therefore find ways to force the Ranna out of their walls. Crossing the rivers to attack them is one way, but looks doomed to failure. Getting allied with a city state to attack another one and get slaves is another. Once rivers are crossed, anything can happen, and sieges will allow for plenty of pillaging the countryside while defenders remain hidden behind their walls. If there is no opportunity for such campaigns, Gintainai will try to force the Ranna to cross the rivers themselves, by sneaking people into their lands who will burn crops, poison wells, kill people, in order to provoke the Ranna into attacking. If that works, they will try to defeat Ranna on the east side of the Tigris and then concentrate on the defeated city to get a foothold on the west bank.
Gintainai will happily lend their services as mercenaries in exchange for food, women and slaves. Both between themselves and for Ranna (or even Gettea) city states.
The creation of oranised military bands will go along with the unification of some tribes by force, and some tribes leaders will rule over smaller tribes, eventually giving rise to one or several khans ruling large numbers of subjects.
Priorities:
Ilfeinoi and northern Gintainai migrate far from each other, looking respectively for empty space and for easy targets.
Southern Gintainai start settling down and try to develop slavery.
Southern Gintainai develop mercenary habits.
Spending:
Migration (northern Gintainai and traditionalists)
Leadership (southern Gintainai)
Culture name: Fravaria
Description:
Expansion:
The simple Fravarians will attempt to continue uniting their people while maintaining their mostly sedentary lifestyle (although when times are tough they will go back to their semi-nomadic roots in order to survive.) They will spread their influence to neighboring tribes through conquest (if necessary) or religion, or even trading them barely and other such luxuries the people have not discovered yet. They will also attempt to create a sort of tribal confederation for the various villages in the areas to be able to keep up to date with each other, and by doing so, they will hammer out a universal Fravarian dialect for the tribal leaders to use in their meetings with one another.
Culture:
The Fravarians will also develop their religious ceremonies, now praying more and more to the River God, and developing a harvest ceremony and other festivals in honor of him in order to please the god to send rain to help with their harvests. Have them also begin their steps towards developing a calendar and looking to the stars to help foresee the future.
Economic:
Nothing other then starting to trade crops and such, but nothing to sophisticated right now.
Priorities:
Develop Fravarian culture and language
Conquer more lands
Spread culture to surrounding tribes
Try to domesticate more crops and animals
Spending:
No spending points this turn
Description:
Expansion:
The simple Fravarians will attempt to continue uniting their people while maintaining their mostly sedentary lifestyle (although when times are tough they will go back to their semi-nomadic roots in order to survive.) They will spread their influence to neighboring tribes through conquest (if necessary) or religion, or even trading them barely and other such luxuries the people have not discovered yet. They will also attempt to create a sort of tribal confederation for the various villages in the areas to be able to keep up to date with each other, and by doing so, they will hammer out a universal Fravarian dialect for the tribal leaders to use in their meetings with one another.
Culture:
The Fravarians will also develop their religious ceremonies, now praying more and more to the River God, and developing a harvest ceremony and other festivals in honor of him in order to please the god to send rain to help with their harvests. Have them also begin their steps towards developing a calendar and looking to the stars to help foresee the future.
Economic:
Nothing other then starting to trade crops and such, but nothing to sophisticated right now.
Priorities:
Develop Fravarian culture and language
Conquer more lands
Spread culture to surrounding tribes
Try to domesticate more crops and animals
Spending:
No spending points this turn
qoou said:
Its yours, you can control it.
The Loser said:
Yes, you can join and no you will not have any points.
You have one point. There is no specific list, you can spend it on whatever.
civver_764 said:
You haven't done anything, that's why.
I'm still waiting on some orders, if they are not forthcoming, expect an update tomorrow or Saturday.
Daftpanzer
canonically ambiguous
@Masada is my culture acceptable? post #111 FTW
Cobalt Command
Destroyer of Worlds
Orders==Edited
Glad to see this rolling forward.
Glad to see this rolling forward.
Adrogans said:
No problem.
Daftpanzer said:
Silence can in this case be constituted as acceptance
Cobalt Command said:
It always was, I'm just busy Monday - Thursday with work, study and gesticulating wildly in-front of students.
