Amending the Election Cycle

[Strider]

Here are some proposed changes to our Election Cycle, I'll go into detail after you've read them.

Current Election Cycle

X. Elections
1. Nominations and Debate
a. Nominations will be created by the Election Office 7 days prior
to the end of the month. Citizens may nominate themself or
another citizen in this thread. Citizens may also post pre-
nominations in the Election Office thread if they will not be
present during the nomination period. This nomination thread
should contain a description of the office.
b. All debates will be within the nomination thread, and will
continue through the end of the election cycle. Any citizen may
post questions for the candidates to answer. Candidates may answer
or not answer as they wish.
c. A nomination is not considered Accepted until the candidate
makes an explicit post. All self-nominations are considered
Accepted unless otherwise stated.
2. Election Polls
a. Election polls will be created by the Election Office 3 days
after the Nomination threads are created. These polls will contain
the names of all Accepted candidates for the office, a description
of the office, a link to the nomination thread, be set to run for
3 days and be marked private.
b. Should a citizen Accept multiple nominations, and does not
explicitly clarify which office they wish to run for, the Election
Office will use the first office they Accepted.
c. The citizen with the most votes at the close of the poll is the
winner of the election. Should two or more candidates tie at the end of the election poll with the same number of votes, a runoff election of two days duration will be conducted with the tied candidates only. This process shall continue until one candidate receives the most votes.
3. General
a. The Election Cycle will run from the first nomination thread is
opened until the last runoff poll closes.
b. All threads and polls should be posted at approximately 00:00
GMT on the correct day.

Proposed New Election Cycle:

X. Elections
1. Nominations and Debate
Nominations will be created by the Election Office 8 days prior to the end of the month. Citizens may nominate themself or another citizen in this thread. Citizens may also post pre-nominations in the Election Office thread if they will not be present during the nomination period. This nomination thread should contain a description of the office. A nomination is not considered Accepted until the candidate makes an explicit post. All self-nominations are considered Accepted unless otherwise stated. All debates will take place within the nomination thread, and will continue through the end of the election cycle. Any citizen may post questions for the candidates to answer. Candidates may answer or not answer as they wish.

2. Election Polls
Election polls will be created by the Election Office 4 days before the end of the month. These polls will contain the names of all Accepted candidates for the office, a description of the office, a link to the nomination thread, be set to run for 3 days and be marked private. Should a citizen Accept multiple nominations, and does not explicitly clarify which office they wish to run for, the Election Office will use the first office they Accepted. The citizen with the most votes at the close of the poll is the winner of the election. Should two or more candidates tie at the end of the election poll with the same number of votes, a runoff election of two days duration will be conducted with the tied candidates only. This process shall continue until one candidate receives the most votes.
3. General
The Election Cycle will run from the first nomination thread is opened until the last runoff poll closes. All threads and polls should be posted at before 00:00 GMT on the correct day.

Didn't much to the nominations and debates section except move them all together (We had something about nominations, then something about debates, and then something else about nominations again.) The only real change is that I changed when nominations are posted from 7 days to 8 days before the end of the month.

Changed when election polls are posted, from 3 days after nominations are posted, to 4 days before the end of the month.

For the General section I changed it, to where the nominations/polls have to be posted sometime before 00:00 GMT on the correct day. This is to allow the election officials (which right now is only myself) so leniancy, as long as the election cycle won't run into the next month. For the most part, it means I won't have to post the polls at exactly 00:00 GMT, just as long as I get them sometime before then.

So in this proposals we have:

4 days of Nominations
7 days of Debates
3 days of elections
1 "grace" period day before the start of the new term for the new officers to get there affairs in order for the new term (Appoint Deputies, post threads, etc.)

This grace period may be longer, depending on the exact time I post the nominations. However it will never be shorter.

We can also use this thread to discuss other issues. Should a leader/deputy run on the same ticket? If we decide they should, I can edit this.

 

[Provolution]

ADD

only registered citizens prior to election date are eligible for election and appointment.

 

[Strider]

ADD

only registered citizens prior to election date are eligible for election and appointment.

Inorder to be a citizen of the game, you have to register. If you have not registered, then you are not citizen.

 

[ravensfire]

Strider - looks fine to me.

Provo - change it to a requirement that the EO will verify that all accepted nominations are from Citizens and I'll be fine with it.

-- Ravensfire

 

[Provolution]

Requirement

Electoral Office will verify that all accepted nominations are from citizens as well as verifying that all accepted appointments are from citzens.

 

[blackheart]

Requirement

Electoral Office will verify that all accepted nominations are from citizens as well as verifying that all accepted appointments are from citzens.

We need to verify that all who vote are citizens, but this would require moderator help.

 

[Provolution]

Not really, just check the registry, which is ranked by dates.

 

[blackheart]

Not really, just check the registry, which is ranked by dates.

Elections are private?

No need for this date nonsense, all who register can run and vote. Albeit you have little chance of winning if you joined the day before.

 

[ravensfire]

Elections are, indeed, private. If there is a suspicion of wrong-doing, we can ask the mods to check the elections. I doubt, however, that they want to verify all elections. Nor would I want them to.

-- Ravensfire

 

[blackheart]

Elections are, indeed, private. If there is a suspicion of wrong-doing, we can ask the mods to check the elections. I doubt, however, that they want to verify all elections. Nor would I want them to.

-- Ravensfire

A mishap in DG5's first election is what brought it to mind.

 

[DaveShack]

The key principle is that a person must be a citizen to take office. We also have a guiding principle in the demogame of giving people a chance to rectify errors, especially unintended ones. I would like to suggest the following, which may or may not belong in the elections code depending on how you look at it.

• Any person who is elected or appointed to an office must be a citizen, or become a citizen by registering within a specified time period after the non-citizen status being identified, conclusion of the election or announcement of the appointment; such time period being the same amount of time that defines an office to be abandoned (reference the place we say an official can be declared absent if they don't post within 3 days).
• If the time period for registering as a citizen after being elected or appointed to an office expires, and the person has not registered as a citizen, then the office becomes vacant and is filled via appointment in the same way an abandoned office is filled.

 

[Provolution]

I dissent, all officials must be registered prior to the election date, or we make this game very cronyism dependent and not based on citizenship. If people are not capable of signing up as the first thing in the citizen registry, they just proved they are not eligible to the post. This is all what I ask for, sign the darn citizen registry.

 

[Strider]

The key principle is that a person must be a citizen to take office. We also have a guiding principle in the demogame of giving people a chance to rectify errors, especially unintended ones. I would like to suggest the following, which may or may not belong in the elections code depending on how you look at it.

• Any person who is elected or appointed to an office must be a citizen, or become a citizen by registering within a specified time period after the conclusion of the election or announcement of the appointment; such time period being the same amount of time that defines an office to be abandoned (reference the place we say an official can be declared absent if they don't post within 3 days).

As I pointed out to Provolution above, inorder to nominate/run you have to be a citizen. Inorder to be a citizen you have to be registered inside of the game.

Citizens may nominate themself or another citizen in this thread.

This is mostly where I'm getting my reasonsing from. You have to be a citizen to appoint another citizen. It would take alittle bit of editing to make it an addition, and I doubt were really going to need it. It'll be better if the person in question just registers and we call it a day.

Also, in the case of Donsig, he has already registered. The Article says that you have to register inside of the Citizens Registry thread to become a Citizen of the Demogame. Donsig registered about 2 years ago, and has been a citizen for about 2 years .

 

[DaveShack]

I dissent, all officials must be registered prior to the election date, or we make this game bery cronyism dependent and not based on citizenship. If people are not capable of signing up as the first thing in the citizen registry, they just proved they are not eligible to the post. This is all what I ask for, sign the darn citizen registry.

We know what your opinion is. I'm posting this for the people in-between to see a less harsh alternative.

Also you might want to re-read to see if what I changed makes you marginally happier. I edited it, probably while you were responding.

 

[DaveShack]

The whole point is that it's something which is easy to forget to do. Don't make such a big deal about it. If someone intentionally doesn't sign up, or is out there nominating people who are not signed up just to gum up the works, then we have a criminal case, but look at another example this game -- we had Eyrei, a mod even, who was not signed up.

 

[Provolution]

hehehehe, and I see people had fun commenting on his signature and his unregistered voting record being a Mod. Well, I know the dogs come barking out if I do the slightest mistake, so I have learnt to do the same, and I think I do well, since I stopped flaming and trolling people. If I see a personal and unsubstantiated insult I report it, repeat, it question it and comment it, but do not return in kind.

However, this was a flaw in the system, and we now talk about citizens registered in Fanatannia. I know many oif you are into veteran DG cronyism, Traditional Government, aristocracy of the DG and so on. I do not share those values, every new game everyone starts equal, everyone must register before they get nominated or appointed and no one should be treated above the law. I learnt to do this by Cyc, Donovan Zoi, Ravensfire and so on, so I am merely a product of the DG system.
In fact it is both interesting and entertaining.

 

[Provolution]

Also, in the case of Donsig, he has already registered. The Article says that you have to register inside of the Citizens Registry thread to become a Citizen of the Demogame. Donsig registered about 2 years ago, and has been a citizen for about 2 years .

Well, cover in that anal compulsion too. Let us say Fanatannian Citizen Registry of DGVI, that should hammer down the leak.

 

[Strider]

Well, cover in that anal compulsion too. Let us say Fanatannian Citizen Registry of DGVI, that should hammer down the leak.

heh... nothing is ever wrong, it's just a varying degree of right.

 

[Provolution]

Strider, Well I am Draconian, and I want the laws to give a minimum of doubt on how to handle issues.

 

[Strider]

Strider, Well I am Draconian, and I want the laws to give a minimum of doubt on how to handle issues.

You do know that Draconian means unreasonable/harsh right? It was formed by an Athens leader named Draco who made laws that were so harsh, if you were to steal something you'd be setenced to death.

No idea how that ties in with what you said. Are you trying to imply that you want the laws harsh or unreasonable?