More on that, I tried disabling contact decay, but it didn't make a difference. I've looked through the changes made in 1001/2 but couldn't see anything standing out. one thing I've noticed, is that I seem to have Buba Yeta back as default music, so I assume I lost the more music mod?? Could that be it?? seems strange, but contact decay is strange also?? *Edit* I just figured it out, its not installed in my SVN updating copy, only in the current mod I'm playing. But will install in 1002 and see if that changes anything. *Edit 2*, Nah didn't change anything.