Anonymous hacks Senate website

[Rashiminos]

Looks like lulzsec wasn't satisified. Rumor has it that the CIA website also got hit.

They'd best be careful, lest they get found by the grey eminences.

 

[CaptainF]

They attacked the Senate. That's 1/2 of 1 of the 3 branches of the federal government.

Define "attacked". Who was harmed as a result of these actions, which the Senate says themselves aren't serious.

A declaration of war is an act of war and nobody dies there... since when is death a necessity for something to be an act of war?

Who is declaring war on who here? Certainly not the senate on these nerds, and not the nerds on the senate.

Me thinks your hyperbole is getting out of hand.

Since when does war have to be waged only against nation states?

Historically speaking, we've only ever declared war on nation states.

Maybe no spying, I just threw that one possibility out. Regardless of their intent, they attacked our Senate.

No, they did not. There is no damage or harm to the senate or senators, and even they agreed that no sensitive material was lost.

So, it appears that your characterization is a bit incorrect.

You are, of course, free to think what you want. Your thinking something doesn't mean those thoughts have any basis in reality, though. I simply don't understand why people think things like this are cool or edgy or awesome or whatever.

I don't think it's cool or edgy or awesome. Where did I say that?

What I do think is how funny it is that people think these people are terrorists and spies when nothing couldbe further from the truth.

It's none of the above. It's at best a criminal act when aimed at a person or business, and it's an act of war against our nation when aimed at our government institutions, and should be treated as such.

How should we treat is as such? Round these guys up and shoot them? For not killing anyone or stealing anything?

Your standards for war are rather low, me thinks. Maybe we should declare war on young punk vandals that spray paint schools. They're damaging government property, damnit! To the gallows!

 

[Mr. Dictator]

Mebets the founding fathers would love these guys, if there were alive to see what we've become.

 

[Ajidica]

No, they would say "What is this 'Internet'? Is it a place where I can get smashed?"

 

[GoodGame]

Looks like lulzsec wasn't satisified. Rumor has it that the CIA website also got hit.

They'd best be careful, lest they get found by the grey eminences.

The CIA is looking into reports that its public website, cia.gov was taken down by a group of internet hackers called lulzsecurity.

At 5:48 pm on Wednesday evening a twitter account called “lulzsec” or the “Lulz Boat” posted a message that said, “Tango down — cia.gov — for the lulz.”

An hour later, The Washington Times could still not get on the website cia.gov.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/15/hackers-take-down-cia-website/

Though I'd bet the CIA would let them THINK they took the site down just to track all of them.

 

[bhsup]

I just fail to see how that can in any way be termed an 'attack on the senate' the attacke the senate's public website. If you really term this an act of war you're belittling real acts of war...imagine two illegal combatants meet in jail...one has defaced a government website...the other's blown up some army barracks....yep totally the same crime

Hey, I freely admit I've got a pretty absolutist/extreme outlook on a lot of things. I also freely admit that I have no business ever being in a position of power. It just wouldn't be smart.

BUT...you need me to balance out all the people with the "this was just a hahahah troll no bid deal" mindset. Reasonable response somewhere in between...

 

[warpus]

These Lulzsec guys.. taking down cia.gov ?

They're either fools or.. undercover agents, working for the nsa, trying to force more draconian internet laws

 

[timtofly]

These web sites have nothing to do with either branch effected. These are just "informational" sites where the general public can browse and get general information. There may be forms for properly contacting one's local senator or PR person at the pentagon. Any one's public site has some security for obvious reasons, but they are not sites that one has to have "password" security to access. The news will be when fire walls and hard coded security sites get hacked. Once again spray paint on the outside of the building, nothing internal.

 

[Elrohir]

They did the equivalent of stealing books from a restricted section of the Library of Congress


This is a new game, the rules have changed, our definitions are inadequate

Didn't they just grab the root directory? That's more like photocopying an old book after hours.

 

[Millman]

What else goes on the report?

"Gov's ability to keep order"

 

[ParkCungHee]

They attacked the Senate. That's 1/2 of 1 of the 3 branches of the federal government.

You know, that's a pretty "living document" interpretation of the constitution to read "the Senate" as "the Senate's website." If the two are synonymous, can the website make laws?

 

[Millman]

If a senator is typing it. People 'choose' to elect them to do so. In order to be a gov. you'd need to declare your sovereignty.

But that doesn't mean much when people can violate their own principles at any time. Like I said, it's amazing we communicate at all.

 

[Mise]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK...enager_Suspected_Of_Being_Mastermind_Arrested

Essex Teen Arrested In FBI Global Hacking Probe

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2:58pm UK, Tuesday June 21, 2011
A British teenager suspected of being a mastermind behind notorious international computer hacking group LulzSec has been arrested in a joint police operation.

The arrest of the 19-year-old - named locally as Ryan Cleary - comes just days after the group claimed it brought down the US Central Intelligence Agency's website.

The alleged hack on CIA.gov occurred on the same day Lulz Security opened a telephone request line so its fans could suggest potential targets.

On Twitter, the group wrote: "Tango down - CIA.gov - for the lulz".

The FBI and Scotland Yard launched an investigation immediately and detectives from the force's e-crime unit swooped on the teen's home in Wickford, Essex, on Monday.

LulzSec has risen to prominence in recent months, claiming credit for attacks on Sony and Nintendo, as well as the UK's Serious Organised Crime Agency, the public-facing site of the US Senate and the CIA.

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The CIA is the latest alleged target of computer hackers LulzSec

Sky's Home Affairs correspondent Mark White said if the teen is found to be involved than he could be extradited to America to face trial.

Police are questioning Mr Leary under the Computer Misuse Act and Fraud Act.

A Scotland Yard spokesman said searches at his residential address following his arrest led to "the examination of a significant amount of material".

He added: "The arrest follows an investigation into network intrusions and distributed denial of service attacks against a number of international business and intelligence agencies by what is believed to be the same hacking group."

The Met and Essex Police are working "in cooperation" with the FBI, the spokesman said.

Mr Leary remains in custody at a central London police station.

His arrest has already prompted comparisons with Gary McKinnon.

McKinnon, 45, who is wanted in the US, faces 60 years behind bars for hacking into Pentagon and Nasa computers between February 2001 and March 2002 while searching for evidence of "little green men".

There has been a long-running campaign for Mr McKinnon to be allowed to remain in the UK following warnings from medical experts that he could kill himself if sent to the US to face trial.

 

[punkbass2000]

He may be a mark... apparently he created a splinter group within Anon.