Apparently Amazon doesn't mind becoming a laughing stock

[GoodEnoughForMe]

what.

multinational corporations that abuse their workers and their power are leftist now, this is confirmed

 

[Arent11]

(Funfact: I took the screenshot because I originally wanted to create a thread about it, because it's such a great metaphor for America - just came out, people couldn't possibly have finished reading it, but one side is already pretending it's the best thing ever written, and one side pretending it's the worst thing to ever have been created.)

Actually, this is a good thing with the rating system: You can identify the credibility by looking at the distribution. Usually you would assume that the reviews of a book follow a ~normal distribution centered around a common value. Now, you only have extreme 5 star or 1 star ratings, which shows that it's not really about the content.

 

[Kyriakos]

multinational corporations that abuse their workers and their power are leftist now, this is confirmed

Amazon isn't "leftist" at all; as you said, it is a massive company. It seems to be very conscious of who the establishment figures are, though, and means to be in bed with them

Sanest thing to do would be to just keep out of this; retailers/shipping companies should know how to stay out of a crapfest.

 

[Zelig]

We get it, you don't like Clinton.

 

[Birdjaguar]

"Likes" and "Dislikes" are a credible or relevant source for exactly nothing, particularly in dealing with controversial individuals and topics.

But wait. I liked your post. Is that meaningless?

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Amazon is full of shady stuff, and there are a lot of reviews and ratings and likes that were obviously bought, because they don't make a lick of sense.

I myself was paid to post reviews online some years ago. I'm an Amazon Mechanical Turk worker, and one of the hits I accepted was to take a look at some jewelry advertised on a website and then post two favorable comments about it on the company forum. As it turned out, I didn't have any problem saying nice things about the items, as they were attractive brooches, necklaces, etc. I earned a whopping 70 cents for those comments - which is actually pretty good pay, considering most Mechanical Turk hits pay only a penny, or maybe as much as a nickel (it's not so bad if you find something that can be done very quickly and isn't monumentally boring).

And btw: It's safe to ignore any review by "Harriet Klausner" because there's no such person. It's a "house name" - nobody could possibly review as many books in a day/month/year as "she" supposedly has.

 

[Colon]

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/art/rev...ted-violating-company-guidelines-amazon-says/

Last Christmas, Amazon similarly cleaned up around 3,000 unverified reviews for a “Make America Great Again” tree ornament.

 

[Evie]

It is highly appreciated, and has value and meaning in that sense, but is of little worth in determining the validity of my post

 

[danjuno]

>Hillary Clinton
>Left-wing
Pick one.

 

[caketastydelish]

Only 6361? The pro-Sanders and Pro-Trump wings of Reddit must have been asleep at the wheel. (And if it was a Trump book it'd be the pro-Clinton and pro-Sanders wing asleep at the wheel, and if it was a Sanders book...well, you get my drift)

"Likes" and "Dislikes" are a credible or relevant source for exactly nothing, particularly in dealing with controversial individuals and topics.

So this is the best you've got when someone you like is hated by many "those who hate her must be idiots". That's also missing the entire point of what Amazon is trying to do here, and the fact that you would continue to defend her anyway only proves people's point of thinking she is corrupt. Maybe if you want to prove the Sanders/Trump people run you could begin by at least trying to prove them wrong. Rather than Amazon doing exactly what we feared and her supporters being apologists for it.

what.

"Leftist establishment" in the United States does not mean what you think it means. In the USA, the Democratic party is the leftist establishment. Many corporations including Facebook, Microsoft, and much more favor the Democrats. Amazon is most likely one of them.

 

[BenitoChavez]

Why would Amazon leave in the top reviews, which are all negative, but delete most of the other negative reviews? If Amazon was trying to manipulate their rating system they made a really big oversight.

Actually, this is a good thing with the rating system: You can identify the credibility by looking at the distribution. Usually you would assume that the reviews of a book follow a ~normal distribution centered around a common value. Now, you only have extreme 5 star or 1 star ratings, which shows that it's not really about the content.

Most who leave ratings have strong feelings about what they are rating. Those who thought something was ok or "meh" probably don't care enough to leave a rating.

 

[Zelig]

Why would Amazon leave in the top reviews, which are all negative, but delete most of the other negative reviews? If Amazon was trying to manipulate their rating system they made a really big oversight.



Most who leave ratings have strong feelings about what they are rating. Those who thought something was ok or "meh" probably don't care enough to leave a rating.

That's not at the case if you look at Amazon's serious book review site, Goodreads. The Clinton book specifically is full up of trolls though.

 

[Commodore]

what.

The left is the establishment now and has been for some time. And the whole "but Republicans control the government" argument doesn't really work to refute that because despite Republican control of the government, leftists still command popular opinion. They also have disproportionate levels of control and representation in the education system and pop culture, meaning they have much greater influence over children than conservatives do. Not only that, but leftists also are finding themselves in increasingly powerful positions economically. For example: Google could easily be described as one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful, corporations on the planet due to their ever increasing control over the flow of information and data. All of their senior management positions are occupied by admitted leftists.

It's the same with Amazon. Bezos is an admitted Hillary supporter and Democrat. He also runs another of the world's most powerful corporations. What's my point here? My point is that as corporations become more and more powerful, who is in control of the government becomes less and less relevant as a means of determining who is or is not the establishment. At least that's how it is in the US. Governments still seem to matter and have actual power in Europe.

I know you don't want to admit that you are the establishment now because the whole leftist narrative involves you being the scrappy underdogs fighting against the injustice of the conservative overlords, but that doesn't change the fact that you are the overlords now.

multinational corporations that abuse their workers and their power are leftist now, this is confirmed

When the senior leadership of those corporations are all leftists, then it is perfectly reasonable to label the corporation itself as leftist as well. Just because you don't want to admit that leftist business tycoons abuse their workers just as much as conservative ones doesn't make it any less true.

 

[danjuno]

>Democrat
>Left-wing
Pick one.

 

[Lexicus]

"Leftist establishment" in the United States does not mean what you think it means. In the USA, the Democratic party is the leftist establishment. Many corporations including Facebook, Microsoft, and much more favor the Democrats. Amazon is most likely one of them.

The Democratic Party are in no way shape or form leftist and some would argue 'leftist establishment' is a contradiction in terms.

@jackelgull I also saw a story last week about this which said Amazon deleted a bunch of unverified, obviously trolling reviews of the book. I see no reason to doubt that and find the idea that Amazon is engaged in a conspiracy to make Clinton's book look good to be even more laughable than what I've seen of the contents of said book (which are, believe me, highly amusing).

 

[Kyriakos]

The Democratic Party are in no way shape or form leftist and some would argue 'leftist establishment' is a contradiction in terms.

@jackelgull I also saw a story last week about this which said Amazon deleted a bunch of unverified, obviously trolling reviews of the book. I see no reason to doubt that and find the idea that Amazon is engaged in a conspiracy to make Clinton's book look good to be even more laughable than what I've seen of the contents of said book (which are, believe me, highly amusing).

Wait, you actually read many pages of her book, "The Blame game" aka "It was MY turn"?
Have you no standards, sir?

And i read (well, a poster said so, don't shoot if not true ) that Jeff Bezos, owner of Amazon, also owns the WP paper, which openly supported Clinton vs Sanders. Hardly a Conspiracey

 

[Lexicus]

Wait, you actually read many pages of her book, "The Blame game" aka "It was MY turn"?
Have you no standards, sir?

I read about two and a half pages, all of which had been leaked before the book's release and came to my attention because they were the subject of social media controversy. You can read some of my commentary about her reading of 1984 here

And i read (well, a poster said so, don't shoot if not true ) that Jeff Bezos, owner of Amazon, also owns the WP paper, which openly supported Clinton vs Sanders. Hardly a Conspiracey

So from this I'm forced to conclude that you believe that Jeff Bezos personally intervened to have Amazon delete critical reviews (again, the source I read said that the removed reviews were trolls who hadn't read the book and simply wanted to flood the thing with 1-star reviews) of Hillary Clinton's book, and your evidence is that he also owns the Washington Post which largely was pro-Clinton during the Democratic primary. With the caveat that I'm not sure how serious you are being (which is by design I'm sure), this is a theory worthy of Alex Jones.

 

[Traitorfish]

The left is the establishment now and has been for some time. And the whole "but Republicans control the government" argument doesn't really work to refute that because despite Republican control of the government, leftists still command popular opinion. They also have disproportionate levels of control and representation in the education system and pop culture, meaning they have much greater influence over children than conservatives do. Not only that, but leftists also are finding themselves in increasingly powerful positions economically. For example: Google could easily be described as one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful, corporations on the planet due to their ever increasing control over the flow of information and data. All of their senior management positions are occupied by admitted leftists.

It's the same with Amazon. Bezos is an admitted Hillary supporter and Democrat. He also runs another of the world's most powerful corporations. What's my point here? My point is that as corporations become more and more powerful, who is in control of the government becomes less and less relevant as a means of determining who is or is not the establishment. At least that's how it is in the US. Governments still seem to matter and have actual power in Europe.

I know you don't want to admit that you are the establishment now because the whole leftist narrative involves you being the scrappy underdogs fighting against the injustice of the conservative overlords, but that doesn't change the fact that you are the overlords now.

You've just listed people who are rich and powerful. You haven't actually given a reason for us to identify them as leftist, except that you say they are.

I acknowledge that a certain sector of the employing class identify themselves with social liberalism and with cosmpolitanism, but that doesn't make them left-wing, it only makes them non-conservative.

After all, if the Democratic Part is comfortable with the support of monopolists and would-be oligarchs like Bezos and Zuckerberg, what exactly is "left-wing" about it?

 

[Lexicus]

You haven't actually given a reason for us to identify them as leftist, except that you say they are.

"admitted Hillary supporter and Democrat"
The logic is on display. The post in question is little more than an unhinged fascist rant.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

When the senior leadership of those corporations are all leftists, then it is perfectly reasonable to label the corporation itself as leftist as well. Just because you don't want to admit that leftist business tycoons abuse their workers just as much as conservative ones doesn't make it any less true.

I love a country where you can wear a leftist label with pride as you kill your workers in a 110 degree warehouse, America is awesome.

If your "leftism" involves this, it's not actual leftism, and trying to acclimate Zuckerberg and other bajillionaires to the left is a cool way to admit that there is no left in America.

It has nothing to do with admitting people on the left can't be a-holes. There's nothing about Amazon, or Facebook, or other similar goliath companies, who lobby DC endlessly against unions or minimum wage increases, that is leftist. Punting out a rainbow flag tweet and calling it a day doesn't cut it my dude.