Apparently the Americas were first discovered by muslim explorers :)

[Kyriakos]

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said that the Americas were discovered by Muslims in the 12th century, nearly three centuries before Christopher Columbus set foot there.

"Contacts between Latin America and Islam date back to the 12th century. Muslims discovered America in 1178, not Christopher Columbus," the president said in a televised speech during an Istanbul summit of Muslim leaders from Latin America.

"Muslim sailors arrived in America from 1178. Columbus mentioned the existence of a mosque on a hill on the Cuban coast," Erdogan said.

The president also said that Ankara was prepared to build a mosque at the site mentioned by the Genoese explorer, the AFP news agency reported.

"I would like to talk about it to my Cuban brothers. A mosque would go perfectly on the hill today," he said.

Most history books say that Columbus set foot on the American continent in 1492, while seeking a new maritime route to India.

Some Muslim scholars have recently suggested a prior Muslim presence in the Americas, although no pre-Columbus ruin of an Islamic structure has ever been found.

In a controversial article published in 1996, historian Youssef Mroueh refers to a diary entry from Columbus that mentions a mosque in Cuba.

However, the passage is widely understood to be a metaphorical reference to the shape of the landscape.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middl...discovered-americas-20141115181222841516.html

This is awesome Colombus surely could not have been using a metaphor. Current propaganda in western Europe made people forget what shapes mosques had anyway, so he was told of this term by the native chapter of Islam in Cuba.

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You can discuss the glory of the reborn khaliphates and sultanates, now freed from the constraints of eurocentric fabrication of history.

 

[Truronian]

It irks me a bit when people talk about who was first to discover America: it was most probably the people living there! Can't we talk about the first transatlantic contact instead?

 

[Kyriakos]

America was in the shadows of primordial barbarism before the glorious Sun of Islam/Christianity/Norse/Chinese culture rose from the depths of the sea. It is why in Aztec lore Tezcatlipoca created the continents out of the body of a massive crocodile who lived here before.

It is hidden in plain view, man. Don't believe the pseudo-history we are being fed

 

[Loppan Torkel]

He forgot to mention the Norsemen who 'made contact' some hundred years before. ..or is the purpose merely to expand the geographical area for a potential Jihad? Makes sense.

 

[Thorgalaeg]

Señala la disposición del río y del puerto que arriba dijo y nombró San Salvador, que tiene sus montañas hermosas y altas como la Peña de los Enamorados, y una de ellas tiene encima otro montecillo a manera de una hermosa mezquita.

Translation:

Remarking on the position of the river and port, to which he gave the name of San Salvador, he describes its mountains as lofty and beautiful, like the Pena de las Enamoradas, and one of them has another little hill on its summit, like a graceful mosque.

It is not widely understood like a metaphor IT IS a metaphore, period.

Is this a joke? There cant be schollars that stupid.

 

[Kyriakos]

It is not out of the question that Pytheas of Marseilles visited America before all those others. I mean 'Thule'. Just think of it

 

[Domen]

I disagree. The Americas were first discovered by hunter-gatherer-explorers like him:


Link to video.

 

[Civ'ed]

It was the basques/egyptians/irishmen/vikings/muslims/spaniards/greeks/atlanteans/aliens (circle whichever one is appropriate), obviously.

 

[Kyriakos]

Following the destruction of Troy Toledo by the marauding Greeks Iberians, refugees travelled to Italy 'Merica, to build again...

 

[Domen]

I already explained in another thread that Columbus was the first to discover America, which changed the history of the world.

The Vikings (confirmed) and other (hypothetical) "discoveries" were of NO IMPORTANCE, because nothing significant followed them.

The Vikings were just among many peoples who either settled or attempted to settle in the Americas (starting in the Paleolithic period).

 

[NovaKart]

The same would apply to the hypothetical muslim explorers. At least Erdoğan's statement isn't as far fetched as the sun theory.

 

[Thorgalaeg]

But the vikings were tall and blonde and had cool gods and used large axes and swords. They were damn cool.


Link to video.

 

[Kyriakos]

But the vikings were tall and blonde and had cool gods and used large axes and swords. They were damn cool.


Link to video.

I think that you pin them down.


Link to video.

 

[Carolus I]

President Erdogan's speech made a lot of headlines in the Spanish(-speaking) press on both sides of the Atlantic:

https://www.google.de/search?q=Yous...e=UTF-8#q=Youssef+Mroueh+descubrimiento+colon

But what does really indicate that Muslims discovered America before Columbus:

Numerous evidence suggests that Muslims from Spain and West Africa arrived to the Americas at least five centuries before Columbus. It is recorded,for example, that in the mid-tenth century, during the rule of the Ummayyed Caliph Abdul-Rahman III (929-961 CE), Muslims
of African origin sailed westward from the Spanish port of DELBA (Palos) into the "Ocean of darkness and fog". They returned after a long absence with much booty from a "strange and curious land". It is evident that people of Muslim origin are known to have accompanied Columbus and subsequent Spanish explorers to the New World.

http://www.sunnah.org/history/precolmb.htm

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian_trans-oceanic_contact

Take yer pick.

 

[classical_hero]

I am surprised they haven't claimed that Muslims actually made to the moon first. I mean they claim that they are the original inhabitants of Palestine and have a history there of over 3,000 years.

 

[Cutlass]

If Muslims discovered America, first of all they failed to leave any evidence behind. Second they failed to leave any record of it. And third they failed to tell anyone about it at the time. So it really doesn't count for anything.

I mean, we know that some Vikings settled in what is now Canada for a period of time. And they left behind some archeological evidence. But it never became common knowledge in Europe that they had done so. And so they never kicked off a wave of exploration, conquest, and colonization. And this is why Columbus, rightly or wrongly, is the one who gets the credit.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

He forgot to mention the Norsemen who 'made contact' some hundred years before. ..or is the purpose merely to expand the geographical area for a potential Jihad? Makes sense.

This whole thing is ridiculous. The Vikings were in North America in the 10th century. The archaeological site of L'Anse-aux-Meadows dates to approximately 1000 AD.

I already explained in another thread that Columbus was the first to discover America, which changed the history of the world.

The Vikings (confirmed) and other (hypothetical) "discoveries" were of NO IMPORTANCE, because nothing significant followed them.

No, Columbus was NOT the first to "discover America." The people who crossed the Bering land bridge from Asia in prehistoric times were the first to do that. As for it being of "no importance"... there are two continents' worth of aboriginal people who would disagree with you, as their history and lives past and present are of a great deal of importance.

 

[Domen]

They settled, not discovered. Because they were not aware that they just moved from one continent to another.

You know, oxygen was also not discovered by the first breathing human - but much later.

 

[Kyriakos]

Translation:


It is not widely understood like a metaphor IT IS a metaphore, period.

Is this a joke? There cant be schollars that stupid.

Athena is black, another cover-up by the waito-patriarchals