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[CaptainF]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! But I grew a beard like the guy in my avatar and I'm growing long sexy hair!!! NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! I like stopped shaving and cutting my hair and grew it over spring break. Then I came back to find that everyone had shaved and had a hair cut. The state of modern society is sad....take pride in your bodily hair. I'm proud of my exccedingly hairy legs, and hairy face! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed!!!

I love my facial hair. As one of the few in my age group who can grow this:



Why shouldn't I love it?

 

[GenMarshall]

do you want someone to tell you that you're ugly and fat? i will if you want me too. you should really stop using that as your only excuse as to why you can't get girls.

Ever heard about Body dysmorphic disorder? It's not an excuse, it's a symptom for BDD. I dont want anyone telling me that I am ugly and fat (It will make BDD even worse).

bad guys are hotter, fact.
not all BAMFs are emotional abusers.

What about nice guys? They dont make the cut? .

 

[Nylan]

Sure they do CivGeneral, I made it after all.

I guess it would depend on the girl, and that one quote from X-men. Something like "Girls flirt with the bad boys, but they go home with the good guys." Not a universal truth, but you wouldn't want a girl shallow enough to only care about looks anyways, would you?

 

[Prince_Imrahil]

Girls flirt with the bad boys, but they go home with the good guys

you mean they "go home" with the bad boys and marry the good guys...

 

[GenMarshall]

So I should just be an egotistical overconfident jerk in order to win woman? Since what I am hearing is that women just go for the bad guys.

 

[Prince_Imrahil]

Trick: Don't GO for women, be who you want to be and be happy about yourself and enjoy your life, and women will GO for you.

 

[Mountain-God]

Does size matter?

I mean, like, Raisin Bran has 3,516 posts and I have far fewer...

 

[Hitti-Litti]

^^

 

[Prince_Imrahil]

...well, are all the girls here all over Perfection?

 

[mrt144]

good guys is code for undynamic boring guys that have interests that run counter to interesting and are needy. Bady boys is code for charistmatic guys that are dynamic, have stuff going on, and know how to have fun in an inclusive way while not being depenedent and needy.

case closed.

 

[Nylan]

you mean they "go home" with the bad boys and marry the good guys...

something like that, idk it's been years since I've seen the movie

 

[Nylan]

good guys is code for undynamic boring guys that have interests that run counter to interesting and are needy. Bady boys is code for charistmatic guys that are dynamic, have stuff going on, and know how to have fun in an inclusive way while not being depenedent and needy.

case closed.

I disagree

I think it's far more about morals, rather than attractive vs unattractive or outgoing vs introverted.

Then again, I suppose each girl defines it differently.

Just remember, good guys do win. I'm a firm believer in that. Be who you are, and yes, be proactive enough to ask a girl out once in a while or they might think you're not interested in general, but you don't have to be pushy, a jerk, or arrogant.

Act the way you'd want to be treated.

 

[GenMarshall]

Trick: Don't GO for women, be who you want to be and be happy about yourself and enjoy your life, and women will GO for you.

I have been doing that and I have YET to see a woman approach me!

 

[mrt144]

I disagree

I think it's far more about morals, rather than attractive vs unattractive or outgoing vs introverted.

Then again, I suppose each girl defines it differently.

Just remember, good guys do win. I'm a firm believer in that. Be who you are, and yes, be proactive enough to ask a girl out once in a while or they might think you're not interested in general, but you don't have to be pushy, a jerk, or arrogant.

Act the way you'd want to be treated.

and "good guys" are treated the way they act.

"bad guys" arent jerks, by definition, they are simply better able to interact with females for the reasons I stated above. confidence, attitude, and not overanalyzing this crap. You know how much bad guys go over this whole dynamic in their mind. as often as a good guy brings it up.

 

[mrt144]

I have been doing that and I have YET to see a woman approach me!

this is like world war I. eventually someone is going to have to blow the whistle and go over the top to kill the other. it can be as simple as using a graphing calculator to state that y1 = doesnt ask you out is beyond me, or "how do you start a quadratic formula party? Get rid of all the negative squares". Bad jokes. Baaaaaad Jokes.

 

[mrt144]

Sure they do CivGeneral, I made it after all.
Not a universal truth, but you wouldn't want a girl shallow enough to only care about looks anyways, would you?

you've hit something here i think is important. Most the guys that I see complain about this stuff have standards that are way too high, unrealistic, and self defeating. They are shallow enough to want a girl that has all the qualities they seek without reciprocating their partners desires.

 

[capslock]

Yah, civgeneral, find a girl uglier and lonelier than you, then dominate her. It will give you the confidence to find a slightly less ugly, slightly less lonely girl to dominate next. Keep working your way up, and before you know it, you'll be banging Jessica Alba or some other such hot slut.

 

[Rhymes]

CG, whats annoying is that whatever advice someone gives you, its no use, its like you already dropped the gloves. The first thing before anything else that you should change is your attitude. Otherwise you could me the most handsome guy in the world you would still never find a girl.

 

[Golden Touch]

Ok question about size : do girls share considerations about male intimate proportions ?

we do talk about it, but we dont discuss length other than small (but works well), good job, or massive. we would NEVER say anything bad abouta guy we're sleeping with. until we break up....

Women are attracted to men that are confidant, that have a strong and stable personality and that act according to those qualities. Thats all needed to be a so called "real man".

Notice that you don't have to be an @sshole to have those qualities, but you can be one even if you have them.

Totally agreed. a man (or woman) who is self confident, self assured and has a bit of something about them is all anyone is really looking for.

At least you're honest about what women want, though. Most don't seem to want to admit that women want to get all the advantages of the old system but still be able to act like men too. Most women these days seem to insist that all they want is "equality", but still squawks whenever anything they don't like happens.


I think that's a rather bizarre explanation. I think women play with mens minds because they can, and because doing so can be fun. And I very much doubt that this is a recent phenomena, as you seem to suggest - I'd be willing to bet Adam spent many a sleepless night asking God why Eve was so bizarre.

Its very easy for me to be totally honest on here, as I dont know anyone and the chance of meeting are very low. But in the real world? I play the game as well as the next girl, if not a little better! I'm certain that adam drove himself mental wondering when eve was sulking behind a tree when he cant think of anything he's done to upset her.

Why is it that women always go for the strong muscular men and cast asside the fat and ugly men!?

usual laws... you go for the best looking person that you think is attainable. You see very few amazing looking people with an ugly partner. life my friend.

I think that's bunk. I think women have been playing with men's minds as long as men have had them. Women, generally speaking, had less political power and rights in most past societies, but I'd bet if you looked at how the majority of people act with their spouses or significant others, it probably hasn't changed much over the millenia. Men are men, and women are women, no matter what century they were born in.

agreed. but i always think that the political leaders of past ages probably went home and ran things by their wife before making decisions. As far as I'm aware most married couples are 'teams' and your partner can be a sounding board for ideas. I dont think this is a new thing.

Cant, fear of rejection and perception that I am ugly and too fat.

CG, I feel bad for you for all your body worries. You really need to get out and about and distract yourself from them. From checking out your photos I'd say you are neither ugly or fat (silly) and I think you keeping mentioning it just keeps bringing it to the front of your mind. get off the website, go join a club, meet some new people, gain a new skill feel confident in yourself for getting yourself out there despite your problems... and then my friend you'll be ready to try interacting with girls with a little more confidence.

I hear girls like getting complimented...

Well then why do only like getting complimented from some guys?

its the way you do it. sometimes it comes across as creppy. cant really tell you why. just say it sincerely. dont compliment tits or ass unless you know them well. cant really go wrong from there.

What is up with Girls falling for Bad Guys knowing that they would get emotionally hurt by them?

we think we can change them. and they are FUN!!!! I've always had a thing for bad guys... and I've finally figured out that its my own fault for choosing them, and I must do it coz I like it. I like the highs and lows, the rollercoaster. For the age I'm at now, who wants safe and dependable?! I want a bad lad to play with who will slowly turn into the more dependable guy you want to be with for life. Not much to ask now is it!

you've hit something here i think is important. Most the guys that I see complain about this stuff have standards that are way too high, unrealistic, and self defeating. They are shallow enough to want a girl that has all the qualities they seek without reciprocating their partners desires.

Agreed. lots of guys can be very lazy in relationships. Will make the effort to look good to gain a gf, then sit back and relax. get fatter, work out less, pay less attention to her.. yet expect her to stay exactly the same as when they met. TRY HARDER then it makes it worth our while too!

Yah, civgeneral, find a girl uglier and lonelier than you, then dominate her. It will give you the confidence to find a slightly less ugly, slightly less lonely girl to dominate next. Keep working your way up, and before you know it, you'll be banging Jessica Alba or some other such hot slut.

I know I should be against this comment. but i actually agree. find someone with low self confidence who will understand your need for reassurance etc. if you end up with someone who thinks completely diffrently to you she wont understand and you'll drive each other mental ending up with even lower self confidence. you have to find someone who understands and can help to build you up sloooowly.

Phew, marathon. Abaloz gone back to newcastle now working alone is SO much worse.

 

[Neonanocyborgasm]

Ever heard about Body dysmorphic disorder? It's not an excuse, it's a symptom for BDD. I dont want anyone telling me that I am ugly and fat (It will make BDD even worse).


What about nice guys? They dont make the cut? .

Dude, you really have to stop whining like this. All I've read for the last umpteen pages of this thread is how you complain of being ugly, fat, and too nice for any chick to be interested in you. You make lots of excuses but do little to fix the problem. I also don't like how chicks are shallow and care nothing for men who are really good for them, but that's life, and that's the way it's been for thousands of years.

Instead of complaining, you should do something about your situation. First, buy yourself a seduction manual by one of the seduction authorities. My personal favorite is the Mystery Method. It will be money well spent, because you will not only learn techniques, but also learn about women's nature from an unbiased source, free of political correctness. Second, don't preoccupy your time around this issue. Women just aren't worth this amount of effort. Your time is better spent focusing on your career goals, education, and personal betterment. Spend time with your real friends, which will usually be men (they will be truer friends to you than any woman), and don't be concerned that you lack a girlfriend. They're more trouble than they're worth anyway. Get a hobby, preferrably one that involves activities outside of the house. But the best advice is to not to have expectation of anything with women. Take it like Zen-- accept what is. Once you take on a confident attitude, women will suddenly have this incredible urge to swallow your penis, so the approach will be its own reward.

There is so much more to this, and I could go on for hours, but I think this is sufficient to get you started.

Btw, I think the premise of this thread is misleading. I have rarely met a woman who has enough insight into herself to give honest answers. And in this thread, only GT seems to be honest, or give responses with any value. You are better off asking other men, more skilled in this than you.