Ask a Muslim, Part II

Knigh+ said:
It doesn't help when people interpret it while thinking "everything in here must be wrong" either.
Just to get this out of the way, I'm not assuming that it's all wrong; there are many things that are correct. I easily note that most things that he got right were already gotten correctly by the Greeks (and that many of the things that he got wrong were also gotten wrong by the Greeks). I can easily see how it's not Inspired (with a capital "I"); but keep in mind that many of my conversations with Muslims is regarding the infallibility of the texts.
My point in all these was not to show Quran can substitute a high school science textbook, it can not. As I said in the last paragraph of the original post, the imporant thing is Islam's pro-science stance, by sprinkling all these scientific bits within the religious text to spark curiosity and promote education.
Then I entirely understand what you mean, I thought that your picks were to show that there were truths in the Qu'ran that couldn't be known at the time. Upon rereading, it does still seem that you mingled some of these types of quotes into your writing; so I don't feel bad about confronting them (which is what my original post in these exchanges were referring to).

But with regards to what you mean; I can easily find those pro-curiousity statements! All of these paraphrasings are followed (I believe) with a statement of "there's a message there for people who think about it".
- honey is sweet but is good for the belly sometimes
- alcohol is good for some people, but bad for many
- God gave us the cow, to provide milk
- fruit plants are divided into male and female(13:3,20:53)*
- etc.

TBH; a lot of that is Sphinx-like (from Mystery Men), "there's a message for those who think about it". It surely provokes curiousty, but doesn't mean much.

What I was confronting was the idea was that there are truths that were unknown at the time. There could be selective quote readings to pull these things out, but they're only 'meaningful' if we ignore all the things that are stated to be true but actually false.
Relativity of time
This is in the Bible too; I've learned that its main value to religion is that prophecies that predict events don't need to be accurate to still be considered true.
Astronomy:
Orbital theory was being worked on hundreds of years before the Qur'an was written; so there's no pre-knowledge there. However, 36:40 seems to be false; something the theorists didn't know at the time. As well, keep in mind that he had the opportunity there to make the statement true.
Space travel:
It can't be space travel, specifically, because we'll never agree on what 'lamps' are (again, I'd guess that he meant stars). Though it does invoke a neat idea :)
Not really, as the verse does not have any mention of demons
Sorry, I thought that Jinns were an equivalent to demons; what with their spying on Heaven and all :) I didn't realise that they weren't demons. (so what are "Evil Ones" then?)
The verse you quoted has no similarity to my example at all. Yours talks about God's limitless power. But mine says God has put things in a certain natural order.
I don't think they're different; they both talk about how God and only God can erode mountains. He's right when he says that mountains are transitory, but he's wrong that instructions cannot exist that could get people to move them. The idea that the Earth is transitory is a common theme amongst religions, and so doesn't really leap out as signficant in its truth.
Oceanography
Living tissue is composed mainly of water
No argument; taken in isolation, those are pretty neat!
My point in all these was not to show Quran can substitute a high school science textbook, it can not.
Yeah, it can't. But there's an additional problem; Mohammed occassionally took opportunities to describe natural phenomenon. In those opportunities, he often made mistakes. There's a problem in believing someone to be always true, if he's occassionally wrong - even when he didn't have to be.

*Given that we now know that many fruit-bearing plants get along just fine with asexual reproduction, one could easily see a message there. Reproductive cloning certainly doesn't seem forbidden :)
 
Sorry but catholics have no right to ask questions about Hagia Sophia.

They first used it as a stable and later changed it into Catholic cathedral when they had the chance. Plus they had no respect to Orthodox people who for this reason trusted Ottomans much more than Catholics. (Ok, nowadays because of Cyprus problem etc they don't say this often but it was like that)
I don't really think any Catholic today will think that the Fourth Crusade was justified. If a person did find it justifiable, then yes, I would agree with you. However, the odds are that they won't, so they would have the right to ask questions.
 
I don't really think any Catholic today will think that the Fourth Crusade was justified. If a person did find it justifiable, then yes, I would agree with you. However, the odds are that they won't, so they would have the right to ask questions.

Well if we talk about present day, then Hagia Sophia is not a Christians vs. Muslims business.

It is ours and it is magical.

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Hello salah al din or in other way Assalamo alikom va rahmato Allah
First I admire your effort on this thread and I know that you doing a hard and great job because some times ago I establish a thread to inform people about my country Iran. But answering all questions from so much people are a very hard and (you know better) job and I must allocate my time for other things such as studying my lessons in university. One of the other problems is my poor knowledge in English that prevent me from answering many questions.
I’m a Shia Muslim but not so much fundamentalist like you.
I wish I can help you in answering questions but unless my will and eager, shortage of knowledge in English and mainly time prevent me from this work and I only can wish that God help you.
We have a proverb in Persian that if you could not help me in carrying my weight, don’ add some thing on it, but your explanations about Shia and Sunni caused questions for me and I hope you can enough time to answer me.
And here is my question:
You Sonnies believe in 4 Calikhe (Abu bakr, Omar, Othman and Ali), then why only 4 caliph but no more? I mean why you only believe in 4 first caliph not more for example Moavie bin Abisofyan or others.
And another question is that you said in post 89:
“The Sunnis reject the idea that the ruler ship must be contained within the Prophet's family, but rather that anyone elected by the people through Shura (mutual consultation) could be made Caliph”
As I know and you say Abo bakr was elected by people and as you said “anyone elected by the people” could be a calikhe, but why Abo baker pass the Celafat to Omar (second calikhe) without the election of people and also Omar only pay power to some people to elect the next Caliph within themselves without asking openions of people.
And finnaly my last question:
In which major of Sunnies you are, Hanbali, Shafei, Hanafi or last one that I forgot?
Thank you for your answers to my questions and also thanks a lot for this thread and God help you
Goodbye and as I began my greeting with Arabian, end it with Persian
Khoda Hafiz (God will protect you)
 
Hello everyone. Inspired by Eran's thread, which seeks to answer common questions that posters may have about the LDS (Mormons), I've decided to do something similar in an effort to clarify Islam to anyone asking a reasonable and respectful question.

No topic is off limits, but remember to keep your questions and the resulting discussion civil.

To start with, I'll post something I wrote in a thread regarding the topics of homosexuality, adultery, masturbation and sodomy. This should be a good starting point and address questions that people often have regarding Islam.

Always keep in mind that no one can no everything, and if there is something that I don't know, or am not sure of, I will seek to make that clear. It is also possible, that despite my best efforts, I may make a mistake and misrepresent (in which ever minor way) Islam. This is something that all Islamic scholars and Muslims concede because they are fallible, while it is assumed that God is infallible (and clearly He knows the truth). So as you hear it from them, you'll hear it from me, Allah (God) knows best.
 
homosexuality, masterbation, pre-marital sex, sado-maso and other "filthy" sexual acts?
What reasons do the 3 major religious books (Talmud, Qu'ran, Bibble) give that make homosexuality, masterbation, pre-marital sex such bad things?
Keep it intelligent plz.

Let's address each topic individually:

Homosexuality

The Qur'an states that it is normal for some people to have homosexual thoughts and be moved by the beauty of a person of the same sex. What a person should not do is act on these urges and fantasies.

Again, it's like any other forbidden thing in Islam, adultery, consumption of alcohol, gambling. It's not seen the same way in the Qur'an that it's seen by Christians (ie: the thoughts are permissible but carrying them out is not), although some Muslims may still be made very uncomfortable by the topic.

In regards to punishment, a homosexual act is treated the same way that adultery is treated, since one cannot be married to a person of the same sex (and therefore to do such a thing must be unfaithful to his wife or to engage in sexual intercourse while unmarried, also prohibited).

If two men for instance want to be together, and they express their affection for one another in private, as to not encourage such action (and therefore disobedience) among other members of the Muslim community, then they can do that.

The only way to be punished for homosexual behaviour is the same way one would be punished for adultery. There's deliberately a very high standard of proof set. One needs to be caught in the act by several people that can corroborate each other's testimonies, so you need several witnesses of the act itself.

Furthermore, there's nothing (that I've read) to say that a homosexual (one that engages in the act) is incapable of making it to paradise (and is doomed to hell). The Islamic understanding of judgement is that your good deeds and your bad deeds (including being disobedient) are compared when you stand "before God." Based upon these deeds, it is decided whether a person deserves to enter Paradise. God knows that no one is perfect, and it is within his power to forgive anyone he wants to, which is why he's called Ever-Merciful, Most-Compassionate and Most-Forgiving.

I even read somewhere (though I can't recall where) that in paradise, people will have access to both men and women partners (if they choose). Also, I recall that people will be able to drink wine (therefore, the prohibition on alcohol is also lifted).

Islam and this "current life" is considered by Muslims to be a trial from God to test their piety, commitment and willingness to submit to God and his laws. Therefore, once in paradise, there's no longer a need to be tested, since you've clearly passed the test.

Adultery

From Wikipedia (accurate and concise description with references): According to Islam, adultery is a violation of a marital contract and one of the major sins. In Islam, adultery includes both pre-marital and extramarital sex. Fornication and adultery are both included in the Arabic word 'Zina'. As they belong primarily to the same category of crimes, entail the same social implications and have the same effects on the spiritual personality of a human being, both, in principle, have been given the same status by the Qur'an.

"Do not go near to adultery. Surely it is a shameful deed and evil, opening roads (to other evils)" (Quran 17:32).

"Say, 'Verily, my Lord has prohibited the shameful deeds, be it open or secret, sins and trespasses against the truth and reason"' (Quran 7:33).

"Women impure are for men impure, and men impure are for women impure and women of purity are for men of purity, and men of purity are for women of purity." (Quran 24:26)

Conditions (apply also to homosexual acts, since they are considered a form of adultery)

* The accused, before the accusation, must be known as a practising Muslim.
* The accused must possess common sense. The accused must not have been in an intoxicated state of mind while the act was committed.
* The accused must be an adult having well surpassed the age of puberty.
* The accused must have committed adultery of his/her own free will.
* There must be four male witnesses (or pieces of evidence) to support the accusation (of sexual penetration).

Additional fulfillment of the following requirements is necessary for an execution:

* The accused must be free and not a slave.
* The accused must be married (according to Islamic Law), and must enjoy normal sexual relations with his/her spouse (and therefore have a legitimate means of satisfying his/her sexual desires) prior to committing adultery.
* The accused (woman) must not be pregnant or be responsible for breast feeding a child.


The penalties for adultery (depending for instance if one is fornicating - ie: unmarried or does have a wife) include physical punishment, such as 100 lashes or possibly the penalty of death.

However, recall that there are a number of conditions that need to be met, that four witnesses are required, and each must corroborate the others' testimony and evidence such as Hearsay is inadmissible.

Masturbation

Also from Wikipedia: Istimna (استمناء) is the Arabic term for masturbation. Masturbation may only be done in fear of committing adultery, nor is it preferred (either getting married and fasting is suggested as alternatives from hadith). It is totally forbidden in the Shi'a sect[citation needed], but the four Sunni schools of jurisprudence (known as Madhaahib - the Hanafi, Shafi'i, Maliki and Hambali schools of Fiqh) have differing stances on the issue[citation needed]. Some consider it forbidden in all cases[citation needed]. Some see it forbidden in certain cases but obligatory in others[citation needed]. Another view [attribution needed] is that it is Makruh but not expressly forbidden. Scholars of Islam do not approve of masturbation, except in extenuating circumstances. There is a statement in Quran "And those who guard their chastity, Except in the case of their wives or those whom their right hands possess,- for then, they are free from blame; But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are transgressors."

In Islam, sexual engagement outside of marriage (and outside of those whom the right-hand possesses) is a major sin, which cause the doer to be punished in this life and the Qiyama. Yet if one's desire is so overwhelming one might perform a greater wrong by having sex outside marriage, masturbation becomes permissible as a necessity but in that case it will be like eating the flesh of pig when no other food is available. So Quran says "And those who are not married should try to live in chastity, until God enriches them with His Grace" (Qur'an, 24:33)

Beliefs and practices vary, it is not, however, in any case a sin for which there is a prescribed punishment.


Sodomy

I'm not completely sure what other "dirty" sexual acts you're talking about, but I'm assuming your interested in at least sodomy.

Islam is a religion that places a high emphasis on cleanliness and hygiene. I'm not sure how much you or others know about the religion, but before every prayer, a person makes "Wudu" which is a spiritual act of purification. This involves washing the body to cleanse it before prayer (particularly the hands, arms up to the elbows, feet, nostrils, ears, face, and hair). Also if a man discharges semen, or a woman has her period, they have to undertake a more thorough cleaning of themselves (ie: like a bath/shower).

Therefore, the act of sodomy runs completely contrary to these values. It is officially prohibited by most Islamic sects (most importantly, the largest ones representing the vast majority of Muslims). Parts of the Qur'an talk about Sodom and Gomorrah as well as the sin of Lot's people.

People who do this are seen to be giving in to a universal temptation (such as thievery) and are punished accordingly. It is distinguished however whether a person makes "lesser liwat" with a woman or "greater liwat" with a man.

The punishment can be severe, including whiplashes or death.

Recall however, that like adultery, the burden of proof is high.


Regarding all of the acts described above (aside from masturbation), they are made difficult to prosecute and prove (possibly intentionally). In my opinion, this is because committing these acts privately does not have the same impact as committing them while the Muslim community is aware. In other words, if people know that such transgressions are occurring, they may be more likely to transgress themselves, and this is the key problem when such behaviour occurs and is prosecutable.

Even if such action can not be prosecuted, that does not mean that it isn't wrong. Recall that the Islamic notion of God, much like the Christian and Jewish notion is that he is "All-Aware" and therefore will know if a person exceeded the limits set in the Qur'an. It's like a person who steals and isn't caught. They may not have been found guilty of a crime, yet a crime was committed nonetheless.

It should also be noted that many of the things that are prohibited in the Qur'an are done so because their benefits are outweighed by their costs. Examples of such things are alcohol consumption, gambling and so on. Consider alcohol consumption. Some studies show that a very small amount of alcohol may have certain minor health benefits (though the majority of doctors would still caution a person against drinking solely for the gain of these potential benefits). Despite this, it is very uncommon for a person to consume alcohol purely for these "good reasons." Instead, we see widespread alcohol abuse problems, drunk driving, and even casual drinkers consuming far more than this "minimum" alcohol amount.

Furthermore, when it comes to gambling, it may be possible to earn a fortune through it. On the other hand, it's equally possible (or more likely in many cases) that a person will lose money by gambling (how else would casinos remain profitable ;)?) Therefore, people could gamble their livelihoods away, which has sometimes been the case and go from a position of affluence and wealth (or at least a reasonable amount that provides a good home and meets the needs of the family) to a position of shocking poverty.

I hope this was helpful for anyone curious about the Islamic point of view.
 
Phleg, stacmon renounced Christianity and declared himself Muslim the other day.

Stacmon: Given that God seems to be fully capable of killing people all on His own, why accept that He wants us to do His dirty work for Him? I can easily see how austerity, self-denial, and charity can all be seen as "noble" endeavours, I don't really care about being told to do those things (else, damnation). But, to instruct people to kill each other, and then label it as "Holy"?

Secondly, does Islam have a version on the Tower of Babel story?
 
How do you reconcile omnicience with free will? If god knows everything then that must imply that god also knows the future, and if he knows the future then there cannot be free will.

(Note that this is a serious (I'm not trying to joke or be anoying) question).
 
A personal question or two if you don't mind (just for my own interest!):

(1)What spurred you interest and conversion to Islam from a somewhat similar creed?

(2) What denomination of islam (if any) do you consider yourself a follwer of?
 
First of all, stop calling yourself an Orthodox Christian. You clearly aren't. You've denied Christ's divinity and called Mohammed a prophet of god, so you clearly are a Muslim.

There's no need to make any personal attacks, or to call me a liar.

As El_Machinae has mentioned, I have made no false claims. In fact, he was very skeptical of my religious affiliation right from the start.

To clarify the situation for anyone that hasn't been following other threads that I've been involved in, particularly ("Religion and Islam"), I'll reiterate things here:

Also, a matter that's interesting to note, especially for you El_Machinae :lol:, I've just discovered (and confirmed) that according to Islamic practice/Shari'a, I'm officially considered a Muslim.

Here are the finer points, for those of you that are interested.

1. My father is Muslim (Shi'a, not that it matters), but he is not religious
2. I was baptized in Ukraine (earlier USSR) as an Orthodox Christian
3. Despite that, my mother's side of the family is also not religious
4. I do not have any strong beliefs regarding the (Orthodox) Christian faith. For instance, I don't believe in the trinity, the divinity of Jesus, etc.

I have been told that the son of a Muslim man is considered by default to be Muslim. In the case of a mixed marriage (ie: mother that is Jewish or Christian), the child is considered a Muslim until they are old enough to decide for themselves which religion they want to follow (ie: hit puberty or an arbitrary age, like 18 for adults in most of the West).

Now, my situation is precarious. Whereas before, I thought because I was baptized and was "officially" Orthodox Christian, I didn't think that I was considered a Muslim. However, if you take me to be one of the children in these mixed marriages, then I'm forced with a decision about which religion I want to choose (assuming I want to choose either). This means either accepting Islam, or accepting (Orthodox) Christianity. However, even making no choice simply perpetuates my previous status. In other words, since minors are considered Muslims until they are old enough to make a decision, they are also still considered Muslims up to the point that they've made the decision (one way or the other).

So to clarify, it seems I'm considered Muslim (by Islamic law) until I choose to accept or reject the religion. Since I don't believe in Christianity and am more convinced regarding Islam that makes the choice fairly straight forward. It also makes the topic of conversion moot, since it is now a question of whether or not I choose to be a Muslim in "name-only" or a practicing and observant Muslim. In any case, if I decide to practice, I'll do the Shahadah (testimony of faith) regardless, just in case and to affirm that I will begin practicing Islam.

Looks like we're officially brothers now Fachy :mischief:.

I've made no suggestion at the beginning of this thread (which I have started after finding out the information I describe above), that I'm an Orthodox Christian.

Orthodox Christianity may still consider me an Orthodox Christian, but it's clear that Islam considers me Muslim (for the reasons mentioned above). Since I identify more with Islam and have studied it thoroughly for over a year, faced with a choice, I've chosen that (at least based on my present level of knowledge), I believe in Islam over Christianity.

Hope that dispels any concerns that you may have had and clarifies the situation for you and any other interested readers.

Phleg, stacmon renounced Christianity and declared himself Muslim the other day.

Thanks for clarifying that to Phleg.

Stacmon: Given that God seems to be fully capable of killing people all on His own, why accept that He wants us to do His dirty work for Him? I can easily see how austerity, self-denial, and charity can all be seen as "noble" endeavours, I don't really care about being told to do those things (else, damnation). But, to instruct people to kill each other, and then label it as "Holy"?

I imagine this question applies equally to Judaism, Christianity and any other religion in which a deity (or deities) instruct followers to cause harm to, or kill under limited circumstances.

I can't speak for representatives of all of those religions, but I can say, that one key teaching of Islam is that a person can die at any time and should therefore be mindful of Allah and in complete submission to him.

When I mentioned my situation to Muslims that I met recently, they eagerly tried to convince me to start praying and being observant as soon as possible.

This applies to your question because Muslims believe everyone may lose their life at any time and that we all go through different trials. Therefore, if God is willing to give an otherwise devout and innocent person terminal cancer, or take their life through a natural disaster, why would he be unwilling to punish the with death if they commit grave sins. One argument is that he could do it himself (and this has been one suggestion about the spread of AIDS which is usually transmitted through sex between males, sex between unmarried partners and intravenous drug use). On the other hand, assigning punishments to be carried out by the Muslim community is also a test of their faith. If they believe in Allah and His revelation, they should be in complete submission to him, which would also involve implementing prescribed punishments.

Now, I've also heard of an alternate hypothesis about the laws and punishments mentioned in the Qur'an. It's called the "Law of Limits" I believe, and it basically states that the Qur'an offers certain maximums and minimums. To clarify what this could mean, consider this example:

If the Qur'an states that the inheritance given to a daughter after her father dies must be 1/3, this can be considered a minimum. In other words, the woman can receive no less than 1/3, but does not have to receive exactly 1/3.

Another popular example is the issue of cutting off the hands of thieves if they steal. This would represent a maximum, and indeed, in practice it is pretty much never used the first time a person commits thievery (or even the first several times). It depends on the severity of the offense and so on.

So, according to this theory, although death might be permissible as a punishment for a specific offense, it is not a requirement.

I'm not sure though that the majority of people believe this theory, or what specific theological grounds it's based on. I included this to provide an alternate perspective. Keep in mind, Islam is about good conduct and intentions, not about rigidly holding to laws for the sake of simply following laws. It is clear to Muslims that Allah forgives anyone that sincerely repents, so often many people would show mercy and not exact a specific punishment, even if it was permissible.

Secondly, does Islam have a version on the Tower of Babel story?

The short answer is no. There is a similar story but it is set in the Egypt of Moses. The Pharaoh asks Haman (someone working for him) to build a clay tower in a futile effort to reach Heaven and to confront the God of Moses.

The name "Babil" (currently a province in Iraq) is mentioned in a different story, but there are no significant details about it.

Some Muslim writers and historians (who have no theological significance) have written about the biblical story, but the narrative of the Tower of Babel isn't mentioned in the Qur'an or Sunnah as far as I'm aware.
 
Do you goto Mosque here in Ottawa? And if so, may I ask which?
 
How do you reconcile omnicience with free will? If god knows everything then that must imply that god also knows the future, and if he knows the future then there cannot be free will.

This is actually quite a common question.

Free Will and Fate

I'll start by suggesting you consider free will in a different light. For example, in Islam, it is believed that Angels have no free will, they must do every single thing God instructs them to do, they are in a constant state of submission to him. On the other hand, human beings have the freedom to believe or disbelieve, to obey or to disobey, and as such, it is said that they have free will.

Now to reconcile Predestination/Fate with free will, consider the following example. If you were faced with a decision today, about whether to buy a Honda, or a Toyota, let's say you choose the Toyota.

Now, let's imagine that the universe and time ends for a minute, that the Big Bang happens again, and that every single thing that has happened in the past, happens again. Eventually we reach the decision you were faced with before, and since all conditions are exactly the same as they were when you faced the decision, your choice would certainly be exactly the same. You would have had the same upbringing, you would have attended the same high school, made the same friends and so on.

So consider the universe and its laws as a complicated computer program. Every action leads to a certain reaction based on the rules created. If we acknowledge an All-Knowing God that has absolutely no limits in terms of the information He can process, then it is understandable how He would be capable of looking into the future by "extrapolating" the current circumstances (again, imagining that there's no randomness, and that He can keep track of every detail).

So basically, Muslims believe that God is All-Knowing and All-Aware, while at the same time, Muslims have free will in deciding whether or not they obey God and have the ability to make their own choices.

A person might argue, "Well, if everything is prescripted, then how can I hope to change anything?" I would argue that although God knows what kind of a person each one of us is and what we'll end up doing, we don't necessarily.

For instance, a devout Muslim might follow the religion completely, but when confronted by an exceptionally beautiful woman, he may commit adultery and die in a state of complete disobedience. On the other hand, a drug dealer may have a life altering experience and decide to accept Islam, at which point his repentance, if sincere will be accepted.

Muslims would argue that these things are things that Allah has preknowledge of. But neither of these people might have expected their lives to play out this way, given how things were going beforehand.

So my suggestion to everyone is, don't think "I have no impact on my future because of Fate", because that's predetermined too ;). Simply make a decision and things will continue to play out as they should. Only at the end of your life will you have full knowledge of the kind of person you are (and were), so make the right choices.
 
Now, let's imagine that the universe and time ends for a minute, that the Big Bang happens again, and that every single thing that has happened in the past, happens again. Eventually we reach the decision you were faced with before, and since all conditions are exactly the same as they were when you faced the decision, your choice would certainly be exactly the same. You would have had the same upbringing, you would have attended the same high school, made the same friends and so on.
Apologies, but that's factually false - the universe is nondeterministic due to quantum mechanics, and quantum nonuniformity played a huge role in the shaping of the early universe, including the cores of galaxies.
 
A personal question or two if you don't mind (just for my own interest!):

(1)What spurred you interest and conversion to Islam from a somewhat similar creed?

(1) Reasons Why I chose Islam over Christianity

Although Islam and Christianity are both Abrahamic Faiths and share some similarities, there are also fairly significant differences, particularly in terms of the core beliefs.

Muslims, like Jews, believe in the absolute unity of God. They completely reject the concept of Original Sin and believe as Jews do, that every person is responsible for his own deeds, whether good or bad. Muslims also completely reject the notion that in order to forgive the sins of humans, He needed to take human form, live a human life and sacrifice Himself. If God is all powerful, he should simply be able to say "Your sins are forgiven" and that's it.

Furthermore, so much of Christianity is the result of human (and therefore fallible decisions). There were several councils staged where early Christians voted about what Christianity should look like and how it should be practiced. For instance, two of the early Christians, one of them being the famous Paul had a heated disagreement about whether or not people that wanted to become Christians needed to become Jews first. In the end, the small group of early Christians sided with Paul, and decided that new Christians would not need to convert first to Judaism. Therefore, if this discussion had gone another way, Christianity today might look completely different.

Christianity, during its early development was much more varied than it is today. Eventually however, certain belief systems were adopted by the politically powerful and over time, groups that held different views (such as those that considered Jesus a prophet, but not God incarnate) were declared heretical and died out. Eventually, the Catholic church became dominant, though relatively minor disagreements (considering the differences in belief among early Christians) led to schisms that formed the Orthodox and later the Protestant Churches.

Also, the Old Testament and New Testament have not been preserved the same way that the Qur'an has. Muslims believe that the Qur'an is the same as it was when revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the 7th Century. Today there are millions of people that have the entire revelation memorized, and similarly, thousands had it memorized at the time. Allah, in the Qur'an promises to protect it from corruption, and there is nothing credible that suggests this has not been the case. Even the most skeptical scholars concede that the Qur'an has not changed since the time of time of Uthman (a companion of the Prophet (pbuh) and the third Caliph) around 650-656. Again, one big reason for the lack of any change to it is that memorization of the Qur'an is highly commendable within Islam.

The Christian Holy Books however have been the subject of corruption, mistranslation and other changes since they were created. The original Greek and Aramaic manuscripts of the New Testament are not available. There is no disagreement that there are some glaring errors in the King James Version of the Bible, yet some Christians argue that it is the perfect Word of God. The Qur'an, as well as prayers remain in their original language (Arabic) and it is made clear that any translation is not the Qur'an itself, but rather an "interpretation of its meaning."

Lastly, there are also a great number of "signs" in the Qur'an and in the Hadith. These include mathematical, scientific and prophetic "miracles." Not everyone agrees with all of them, and El_Machinae and I have had several discussions about them. One that I like to frequently mention, which is of great interest to anyone with knowledge of biology/genetics, is that the word man appears 23 times, and the word woman appears 23 times. The number 23 is the number of chromosomes that are provided by the man's sperm and the woman's egg and combine to make 46, the number of chromosomes that the average healthy person has in each cell's nucleus (some people, born with genetic disorders such as Down's syndrome have for example an extra chromosome). These various "Signs" and this one in particular, are amazing, particularly when one recalls that the Qur'an was revealed over a period of 23 years. Imagine how difficult it would be to keep track of such numbers, and the impossibility of knowing such knowledge at the time (without the scientific knowledge and powerful microscopes we have today).

(2) What denomination of Islam (if any) do you consider yourself a follwer of?

Well, personally I will simply consider myself a "Muslim." The concept of sectarianism is actually completely foreign to Islam, and the Muslim community is supposed to be united. To be more specific though, like the majority of Muslims, I would believe in the Sunnah (sayings and actions of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)), which would make me Sunni. I still however, consider Shi'ites to be undeniably Muslims, unlike a small majority of Sunni Muslims that see them as heretics.

I should also mention that the Lebanese half of my family is all Shi'a, but my father is not religious and there is Sunni-Shi'a intermarriage by our more distant relatives (especially those that, for example met their spouses at university, where there is more mixing of the two groups).
 
Do you goto Mosque here in Ottawa? And if so, may I ask which?

I live near "the Main Mosque" which is off Scott street, and I've been there a few times, however, I don't even know how to pray properly, as I've never been a practicing Muslim.

Before I start attending a Mosque (for prayer services), I'll try to familiarize myself as best I can with prayers.
 
Is it ok for muslims to marry non muslims in the koran or through any muslim tradition?

Or is that taboo?

What is your stance on it?
 
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