For us it's mostly a remembrance day too, military parades are more along the lines "we'll never let it happen again". Some people like to scream we kicked their asses, can do it again and so on, but it's mostly young and stupid ones. God forbid we'll have to repeat all that.
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You cannot be too cocky when your looses have been so monstrous including civilians. USA or UK on the other hand were at the comfy side of the pond and scaped with relatively few loses.
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Which is why so many Americans idiodically think war with nuclear powers is on the table. Would we win? Probably, but at a devastating cost.
Zardnaar
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Our day is for a military defeat not a victory so there's that.
Ferocitus
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That's the kind of response I'd expect if someone reported seeing emus in the region!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War
Zardnaar
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This is no joke, we are taking losses!
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/24/world/russian-navy-boat-walrus-attack-scli-intl/index.html
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Ok, that's funny no matter who you are.
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CIA trained walrus.
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Are there any good WW2 books by Russians ?
Iam reading Panzer Ace but there dosnt seem to be any good ones by Ivan, I tried to read red army sniper but it was pure soviet propaganda and worse then some of the biased german books.
There must have been some good books writen after the fall of Soviets and the relaxing of publishing prohibition.
Iam reading Panzer Ace but there dosnt seem to be any good ones by Ivan, I tried to read red army sniper but it was pure soviet propaganda and worse then some of the biased german books.
There must have been some good books writen after the fall of Soviets and the relaxing of publishing prohibition.
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Thanks I already read Vasilyev book the BBC did translation of it in audio format with actors
Sotnikov hasnt been translated into English
I'll give Hot snow a go, but book published during the time under Soviets had to pass strict guidelines in order to be green lite for publication.
Edit: it starts with Ivan surrounded and the commisar shooting himself
I think Iam going to like this book
Sotnikov hasnt been translated into English
I'll give Hot snow a go, but book published during the time under Soviets had to pass strict guidelines in order to be green lite for publication.
Edit: it starts with Ivan surrounded and the commisar shooting himself
I think Iam going to like this book
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There is also Valentin Pikul novel "Requiem for Convoy PQ-17", which is quite famous and probably will be interesting for British and American readers.
But I didn't read it myself, unlike the three books I mentioned above. All of those I read and can recommend, along with their movie adaptations.
But I didn't read it myself, unlike the three books I mentioned above. All of those I read and can recommend, along with their movie adaptations.
If you see a ghost, pinch yourself. If a ghost doesn't disappear, pinch a ghost.
My girlfriend wanted to talk about our future. I spoke about quantum computers, teleportation and forcefields for half an hour, but she meant something else...
- Mom, what's that big and scary behind the window?
- It's Russia, son.
My girlfriend wanted to talk about our future. I spoke about quantum computers, teleportation and forcefields for half an hour, but she meant something else...
- Mom, what's that big and scary behind the window?
- It's Russia, son.
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I had read translations of some Soviet books on lend lease. They claimed things like "lend lease wasn't significant".
But the allies were supplying a huge amount of fuel especially high octane stuff, food, clothing and 2/3rds of the Red Armies trucks. Privately Stalin apparentlybsaid the aid was critical. Lots of aluminum supplied as well, quality radios as well (1941'German tanks had radio, Soviet rare).
It wasn't very significant by pure numbers, but the importance of Lend-Lease was that it supplied USSR with rare materials and advanced machinery and components. Trucks were also helpful because they allowed USSR to redirect its industry to manufacturing tanks and planes. As far as I know, the current consensus is that Lend Lease likely wasn't a decisive factor in victory, USSR still could win without it. But it saved a lot of Soviet people's lives, probably millions.
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Yeah the Soviet people paid the blood price.
The modern take here is it accelerated the Soviet 1944 and 45 advances, saved lives and speed up the Soviet victory. Fuel, trucks and food were the main things.
Post war it helped Soviet truck, plane and industrial design. Tupolov 4 was a B29 clone for example.
Opinion on Kursk is shifting along with the view on Stalingrad. Academically the view is leading toward Soviets defeated Germans 1941. Pop culture it's Stalingrad and Kursk.
Red army also advanced at roughly the same rate as the German blitzkrieg.
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That's not a great example. The Americans tried pretty hard to stop that from happening. The Soviets stuck to their non-aggression pact with the Japanese which gave them legal cover to impound the bombers which they then disassembled and reverse engineered.
Reverse engineering was the only option to make long range bomber fast enough after WW2. Pre-war bombers were obsolete and a proper Soviet made jet bomber was only designed by 1950-s. I read Tu-4 had worse characteristics comparing to Superfortress because of differences between metric and imperial systems. Metal thickness didn't translate well to millimeters and Soviet plane was slightly heavier. It had different engines too.
There was a story that Soviet constructors copied even a can holder in cockpit, but that's probably an urban legend.
There was a story that Soviet constructors copied even a can holder in cockpit, but that's probably an urban legend.
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