Autocensor Changes
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GhostWriter16
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Actually, the PM in question was not swearing at me, but swearing because he had a strong opinion in a discussion we were having. I didn't feel a need to report it, and I don't think I'm required to under the rules.
I simply was annoyed that I got 50 smilies in my PM. That's all. I don't think the smile limit applies to PMs. I'm asking the administration to, if possible, change it. That's all.
Bastian-Bux
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I have to agree with those that do consider any swear filter in such a forum an annoyance at least, and more of an insult.
Plus it's ignorant nationalism of the worst kind. Why? Any nation, any culture does have swear words ... but different swear words. AND: all nations/cultures do have different ways to handle cursing. Now this forum is considered to be an international forum. But not only does this swear filter enforce the american handling of swear-control on people from other nations. It also forces the limited amount of curses found in the american dialect onto all readers.
Honestly, either you come up with a set of rules that will work with all nationalities (good lck with that) ... or you enforce the worst limitations from all cultures, using the most complete list (posts will be ... very limited then ^^).
But as long as just the morales of one nations are used, and just the curse words of this nations language/dialect is used ... as long has it to be considered nationalism or cultural ignorance. Well intended nationalism, but still ...
Just my 2 cents.
PS: nothing wrong with trying to keep cursing limited mind you ... but please at least consider that your POV might not be the only one in the world. There are 6,700 million humans ... not just the significantly less then 300 million which adhere to US-mainstream.
PS: late at night isn't the best time to post.
Plus it's ignorant nationalism of the worst kind. Why? Any nation, any culture does have swear words ... but different swear words. AND: all nations/cultures do have different ways to handle cursing. Now this forum is considered to be an international forum. But not only does this swear filter enforce the american handling of swear-control on people from other nations. It also forces the limited amount of curses found in the american dialect onto all readers.
Honestly, either you come up with a set of rules that will work with all nationalities (good lck with that) ... or you enforce the worst limitations from all cultures, using the most complete list (posts will be ... very limited then ^^).
But as long as just the morales of one nations are used, and just the curse words of this nations language/dialect is used ... as long has it to be considered nationalism or cultural ignorance. Well intended nationalism, but still ...
Just my 2 cents.
PS: nothing wrong with trying to keep cursing limited mind you ... but please at least consider that your POV might not be the only one in the world. There are 6,700 million humans ... not just the significantly less then 300 million which adhere to US-mainstream.
PS: late at night isn't the best time to post.
What do you mean?
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ono-neko
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I don't believe this curse prevention is US invention of moral. I am not from the US, in fact from Asia, but I agree with curse prevention system. Dislike of curses is not US invention, you know... I believe some others who agree may not from the US as well. Check the posters's "Location" and you'll discover that it's not specific US centric POV. There is no point of bringing political bias of the worse kind, especially going out to do specific country bashing.
s.bernbaum
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FWIW, "profane" is not the issue. Profane does not mean what some here seem to think. It is not a synonym for "cussing". It means "secular rather than religious" and is derived from the old Latin word "profanus", meaning "outside the temple".
And before anyone asks, I did just look it up to verify this before posting. A synonym for "cussing" or anything similar to that is not even listed as an obscure, slang, or related definition.
And before anyone asks, I did just look it up to verify this before posting. A synonym for "cussing" or anything similar to that is not even listed as an obscure, slang, or related definition.
In common usage, profanity refers to swearing.
Maybe the 'you agree not to post anything...profane' part of the rules could do with some rewording if you feel the definition is that ambiguous, but I would've thought most people assume it refers to anything offensive in general and swearing in particular.
Maybe the 'you agree not to post anything...profane' part of the rules could do with some rewording if you feel the definition is that ambiguous, but I would've thought most people assume it refers to anything offensive in general and swearing in particular.
No it's not. It's an English language forum mainly populated by Americans.
Not as many as you'd think, even though they are the predominant civ by far.
classical_hero
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I just tested it and you can still get the autocensor on PMs, so it doesnot work there. It does seem that you get more than the 30 limit for images in a PM, so it would seem. I did not send it, just tested it.
aaglo
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I wonder if it works with finnish word removed? 
classical_hero
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WEll considering that there is a Finnish mod, she will know what to do with them.
lemmy101
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Hiya, so when you're directly insulted and take the care to censor yourself and reply with asterisks in a thread where it's clear that the other person is the one being the unreasonable, flaming, insulting one, is it really fair to receive a 2 point infraction when apart from that one thing you've been perfectly civil the whole thread despite being repeatedly insulted?
Angry.
Angry.
If you had properly censored yourself, you would not have needed to use asterisks. You would have reported the other person's insulting posts instead, and not replied to that person.
IdiotsOpposite
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Or just don't speak English. No one will know you're swearing if you choose to swear in, say, Igbo.
You're not allowed to post in a foreign language without providing an English translation.
Bastian-Bux
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Ah, so if I use a german curse word and properly translate it into the english word manure ... then it's fine? You see, I would count this as nationalism / cultural ignorance despite it being less hard on me in this case.
I totally agree that cursing is no "american invention". And I also agree that cursing isn't a good habit. But believe it or not, cursing is handled completely different in different countries. While most curse words are fairly similar in all germanic languages (including the germanic-romanic-celtic bastard-language english) ... it's not true for all of them.
Do you consider it fair, that a non-native english speaker should be allowed to insult native english speakers, just because he is able to translate the words creatively?
On the other hand, do you consider it fair, that a non-native speaker is punished for using the english translation of a word that is commonly used in his native language?
I'm not objecting the use of a curse filter mind you. I'm objecting the unreflected use of a curse filter that limits speech in a certain culturaly dependent way AND only limits words that are considered derrogative in this specific culture.
This forum is about a game that asks "what if" ... and there are more then one Civ in this game. One of the nice touches of Civ V is the ... creative way certain leaders start to "insult" you once things get rough. Maybe looking into this, and thinking about how this reflects in the policy of this board would further the quality of this community.
I totally agree that cursing is no "american invention". And I also agree that cursing isn't a good habit. But believe it or not, cursing is handled completely different in different countries. While most curse words are fairly similar in all germanic languages (including the germanic-romanic-celtic bastard-language english) ... it's not true for all of them.
Do you consider it fair, that a non-native english speaker should be allowed to insult native english speakers, just because he is able to translate the words creatively?
On the other hand, do you consider it fair, that a non-native speaker is punished for using the english translation of a word that is commonly used in his native language?
I'm not objecting the use of a curse filter mind you. I'm objecting the unreflected use of a curse filter that limits speech in a certain culturaly dependent way AND only limits words that are considered derrogative in this specific culture.
This forum is about a game that asks "what if" ... and there are more then one Civ in this game. One of the nice touches of Civ V is the ... creative way certain leaders start to "insult" you once things get rough. Maybe looking into this, and thinking about how this reflects in the policy of this board would further the quality of this community.
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