das
Regeneration In Process
No, but I still imagine it could help draw some of the non-straight borders more accurately as well.
*looks at poll*
Up yours, Mollweide!
Battle Royal: Map the Future
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No, but I still imagine it could help draw some of the non-straight borders more accurately as well.
*looks at poll*
Up yours, Mollweide!
Silver Steak
The Ghost of SS
There is no need for reform until we have acquired safe and reliable methods for creating 3D maps.
Symphony D.
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das
Regeneration In Process
Well, duh. What did you expect? The cartographic elite is pretty much invincible and going to get its way in the end anyway, and that's technically a good thing, especially as few other people care about the issue enough, seeing as the projections are quite similar.
That said, the Mollweide still has been pretty much defeated, and that's good enough for me (seeing as in the first reply on this thread I pointed out that, essentially, Robinson and Winkel-Tripel are essentially equally acceptable).
That said, the Mollweide still has been pretty much defeated, and that's good enough for me (seeing as in the first reply on this thread I pointed out that, essentially, Robinson and Winkel-Tripel are essentially equally acceptable).
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
It seems like the dual systems of Robinson and Winkel-Tripel will keep coexisting, since both projections seem acceptably accurate.
The Robinson, adapted to NK-Jason map form, will most likely continue being used for althistories, where Winkel-Tripel projections are used for modern-industrial games.
The Robinson, adapted to NK-Jason map form, will most likely continue being used for althistories, where Winkel-Tripel projections are used for modern-industrial games.
To prove the "people won't notice point of view" true, I hadn't even noticed this correlation.
Symphony D.
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JosefStalinator
Я буду снова здесь
Sym, if you made a beautiful Winkel Tripel, I still wouldn't use it, not because I'm afraid of change (which I'm not), but because I prefer the Robinson projection. The Winkel is still a nice projection, and you can feel free to use it, but don't feel the need to subtly mock the rest of us who are neutral or say otherwise.Watching other people squirm at the suggestion of change and flailing wildly to substantiate why it shouldn't is a reward unto itself.
Symphony D.
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Symphony D.
Deity
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Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
May I, a lonesome nobody, ask exactly what unshoddy arguments you have in favor of Winkel-Tripel? There's no clear-cut reason to use it over the Robinson, except for less distortion - which has never been a problem in the past (and that ISN'T conservativism.)
Robinson, I take it, is used simply because it's easier to use. Easy border-representation really takes it away.
Conservativism for conservativism's sake is just as bad as radicalism for radicalism's sake. There needs to be a good reason for either.
Robinson, I take it, is used simply because it's easier to use. Easy border-representation really takes it away.
Conservativism for conservativism's sake is just as bad as radicalism for radicalism's sake. There needs to be a good reason for either.
das
Regeneration In Process
As is reformism for reformism's sake. Change isn't a reward in and of itself; there is no need to fix that which isn't broken.
Symphony D.
Deity
Retroactive deletion.
JosefStalinator
Я буду снова здесь
Haha, Good game .
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Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
Haha, I asked and received. Good work, your arguments are very compelling, but you seem quite dismissive of personal opinion; majority shows that people prefer Robinson.
Be that for any reason: conservatism, personal preference, or ease of use in and of itself (which I know you have proven can likewise be applied to Winkel-Tripel); let us not forget that it comes down to the people.
I know it's customary to have a universal standard for earth maps, but of course, let anybody use whichever maps they choose in their NESes.
For all intents and purposes, however, there is no reason not to switch to Winkel-Tripel other than those of personal preference.
Be that for any reason: conservatism, personal preference, or ease of use in and of itself (which I know you have proven can likewise be applied to Winkel-Tripel); let us not forget that it comes down to the people.
I know it's customary to have a universal standard for earth maps, but of course, let anybody use whichever maps they choose in their NESes.
For all intents and purposes, however, there is no reason not to switch to Winkel-Tripel other than those of personal preference.
silver 2039
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Robinson or Winkle-Triple. The other one looks atrocious.
I sort of like the way Mollweide looks, but Winkel Tripel does have all of the benefits Symphony just talked about, e.g. ease of transferability. Personally, it doesn't really matter to me which one you (you meaning ye mapmakers of doom) want to switch to, just so long as maps continue to get made. DaNES' map has already been made on a Robinson, but if anyone really wants a transfer to Winkel Tripel...
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