Brave New World's 9 new Civs

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Except that Sacagawea has even less claim to leadership than Pocahontas. Pocahantas was a princess of sorts. Sacagawea was a common maiden, enslaved, sold or gambled to French guy then came back home with the Corps of Discovery to find that her brother was a Chief. She didn't even stick around. She continued traipsing off with the Corps until they went back east and she stayed with her husband until she died. Her role in the Corps was mostly as translator. She occasionally pointed them in the right direction. Her biggest contribution is that she was a female among men. The Corps would've been taken as a war party except for her presence.

You are right... meh, I am not sure what to make of it yet
 
You are right... meh, I am not sure what to make of it yet

I recognize that the Shoshone have as legitimate qualifications as any NA tribe. My only opposition to the Shoshone is that I would rather have a different option. With regards to leadership, I think Washakie is the paramount choice for the Shoshone. Sacagawea is a foolish option.
 
Wouldn't have a problem with Sacagawea. They want buxom female leaders in every expansion because it sells, and this is a good opportunity for one. Otherwise, it will become another battle of the beards.
 
Wouldn't have a problem with Sacagawea. They want buxom female leaders in every expansion because it sells, and this is a good opportunity for one. Otherwise, it will become another battle of the beards.

Most famous Native American leaders did not have beards.
 
From what I know the Polish forum currently have any kind of Venice and other nations, but sources from the Russian forum going probably from .. Apparently there was revealed yesterday or the day before they even give screenshots from this addon.. However, quickly been removed .. So I told a few friends on Steam. Therefore, the info was spread to the Polish forum and now here
 
From what I know the Polish forum currently have any kind of Venice and other nations, but sources from the Russian forum going probably from .. Apparently there was revealed yesterday or the day before they even give screenshots from this addon.. However, quickly been removed .. So I told a few friends on Steam. Therefore, the info was spread to the Polish forum and now here

Did you see these screenshots that you speak of?
 
Poor Grin. He got like 8 scrutinizing replies back to that comment. I think he understands. :goodjob:

Is it safe to come out now? :shifty:


So wait, we got leaked info from the Polish forums about Venice and Shoshona, who in turn got their information from Russians?
This sounds like a conspiracy...
 
So wait, we got leaked info from the Polish forums about Venice and Shoshona, who in turn got their information from Russians?
This sounds like a conspiracy...

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I dunno how reliable that was to begin with. Now I just don't know.
 
Is it safe to come out now? :shifty:


So wait, we got leaked info from the Polish forums about Venice and Shoshona, who in turn got their information from Russians?
This sounds like a conspiracy...

This whole thing is a subtle hint to us. Conspiracy theorist are the ninth civ. weird alien guy is the leader
 
Is it safe to come out now? :shifty:


So wait, we got leaked info from the Polish forums about Venice and Shoshona, who in turn got their information from Russians?
This sounds like a conspiracy...

Yes, the Red Wedding* is over. (* - Don't Google if you watch Game of Thrones. You have been warned.)

The only reason I am not entirely discounting this whole Polish-Russian theory is because the Shoshone are too random for someone to just make up. It's also somewhat logical for them to replace the Pueblo.
 
Yes sir, shouldve pointed that out earlier

I hate to spoil it for you, but in the end everyone dies and the world is taken over by giant rat-men :king:

These rat men come in 43 three forms with distinct differences in three manners that develop over time, and their knowledge consists only of agriculture at the time of their conquest.
 
Yes sir, shouldve pointed that out earlier

Sorry, buddy. Let me change it. I thought the asterisk as a footnote was common knowledge.
 
So, can some one come up with a link to the Russian website? We may have this sorted out by the time they announce it.
 
So wait, we got leaked info from the Polish forums about Venice and Shoshona, who in turn got their information from Russians?
This sounds like a conspiracy...
No, polish site got information from some reviewer (he later deleted his post.)
On other hand, one day or two before, Russians have their leak, which was deleted pretty fast.
 
So from all this, we know (sort of) the following:

1) Venice is confirmed.
2) Shoshone (or possibly the Shawnee) is confirmed.

Our work here is done. It's been fun speculating with you all :).
 
So from all this, we know (sort of) the following:

1) Venice is confirmed.
2) Shoshone (or possibly the Shawnee) is confirmed.

Our work here is done. It's been fun speculating with you all :).

They're not "confirmed". Until we have official stuff from the devs or gaming news sites that isn't insta-deleted, we don't know if Venice or Shoshone/Shawnee/someone else is in. :p

And plus we still have to speculate on leaders, UA, UU, UB, flags, city lists, etc.!
 
They're not "confirmed". Until we have official stuff from the devs or gaming news sites that isn't insta-deleted, we don't know if Venice or Shoshone/Shawnee/someone else is in. :p

And plus we still have to speculate on leaders, UA, UU, UB, flags, city lists, etc.!

I want to knooow! :(

Venice will be Dandolo or Selvo, Shawnee would be Tecumseh... Shoshone, who knows...

UAs are almost impossible to predict... UU for Venice would either be a kind of galleas, or one of those crossbowmen fellows, or both. They'd probably have the Arsenal as a building, and I can't really see them having a UI. I couldn't say at all for the Natives.
 
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