Brave New World's 9 new Civs

[Magean]

I bet on revelations for next week.
However with that steam sale... Perhaps they're trying to be as loud as possible, and then will throw out tomorrow some hints for us to feed with.

 

[Merciorum]

Throw me into that 1% then. Couldn't care less

If they made Marco Polo leader of Venice, or Affandi leader of the Indonesians, would you care then?

 

[Crodface]

... she'd be like as if they had Columbus for Spain, Marco Polo for Venice ...

Don't give them any ideas!

 

[Loaf Warden]

Italy is such an important country and having it represented by the ancient Roman Empire is foolish. I don't think modern Italians consider themselves citizens of Rome.

It's not represented by Rome. Rome is represented by Rome. Italy is represented by City-States.

 

[ImperialChaos]

It's not represented by Rome. Rome is represented by Rome. Italy is represented by City-States.

True. Some arguments against an Italian civ is Rome, however. It's a bad one.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I bet on revelations for next week.
However with that steam sale... Perhaps they're trying to be as loud as possible, and then will throw out tomorrow some hints for us to feed with.

The 2K community team is going to E3 next week (sans booth). I bet we get something then.

 

[whyidie]

Also, I want to apologize for saying SA native civs aren't as important as NA natives. I didn't truly mean it, I just would rather have a colonial civ so I exaggerated a lot. I read my own comment later then I read Gucumatz's and I realize I was being ignorant, so sorry.

There are quite a few posters with deep knowledge of various "civs". Their knowledge has helped me understand how little I actually know.

There are still quite a few whose knowledge extends little beyond what they just read up on wikipedia. The previous group (those who know) correct them. So this group has helped me as well, as I learn from these corrections.

To your credit, the number of people willing to actually admit their lack of knowledge is the rarest of all. Well done!

 

[BornInTheLoo]

It's just as possible that a guy in Poland mistakes Shawnee for Shoshone. It's impossible to say since he redacted his original link or statement.

Do you think an average Civ player from Poland has ever heard of the Shoshone if not for seeing it in a BNW Pre-release?

BTW. Pre-emptive strike at people who will link to the picture of the purple/cream moccasins on the Shoshone people wiki page: it's not wikivenetian cream:

 

[whyidie]

It's a question of them going for accuracy or popularity.

If they select accuracy, there is a chance that this will lead to a change in popularity.

If they select popularity, it will never change accuracy.

I hope this is how they see it...

 

[SnowKomodo]

If they made Marco Polo leader of Venice, or Affandi leader of the Indonesians, would you care then?

Of course, cause I'm Indonesian

But there are so many different types of controversies around CivFanatics that I try to steer clear away from them unless I feel I have a decent grasp on them

If Affandi was a leader (his daughter married one of my cousins, by the way ) then I would protest in favor of someone more worthy. But if I don't know much about the subject I won't stress out about it

 

[Dragonflow]

The 2K community team is going to E3 next week (sans booth). I bet we get something then.

I thought 2K decided to not attend to E3 this year.

 

[Gucumatz]

So Venice and the Shoshone?

A surprise civ there, although come to think of it its in somewhat in the vicinity (northwest of) the Pueblo and I think they realized they couldn't go with Pocahontas without problems.

 

[cybrxkhan]

So Venice and the Shoshone?

A surprise civ there, although come to think of it its in somewhat in the vicinity (northwest of) the Pueblo and I think they realized they couldn't go with Pocahontas without problems.

We're not sure about the Shoshone. They were mentoned on a Pollish forum but we are not sure about the reliability of the source.

 

[Loaf Warden]

A surprise civ there, although come to think of it its in somewhat in the vicinity (northwest of) the Pueblo and I think they realized they couldn't go with Pocahontas without problems.

I'm not aware of any evidence they ever considered Pocahontas in the first place.

 

[Gucumatz]

Edit: Actually no I didn't. I meant that, Pocahontas would have created an outcry. If they went with the Shoshone, I guess its because they wanted a female native leader (too many threads, losing track of what I say sometimes )

 

[l3illyl3ob]

Neither were Gandhi or Theodora for that matter and yet they're in Civ5.

Gandhi may not have been a leader of a nation, but he was still a leader of men, in his own way. That makes him way more appropriate for the role than Sacajawea.

 

[ImperialChaos]

Edit: Actually no I didn't. I meant that, Pocahontas would have created an outcry. If they went with the Shoshone, I guess its because they wanted a female native leader (too many threads, losing track of what I say sometimes )

I really, really hope they didn't go for the Shoshone because of the possibility of there being another female leader. It should be on merit; not gender.

Gandhi may not have been a leader of a nation, but he was still a leader of men, in his own way. That makes him way more appropriate for the role than Sacajawea.

Poor Grin. He got like 8 scrutinizing replies back to that comment. I think he understands.

 

[Yzman]

Gandhi may not have been a leader of a nation, but he was still a leader of men, in his own way. That makes him way more appropriate for the role than Sacajawea.

Gandhi was a spiritual and political leader, despite never being an executive type leader. I think he is a natural fit.

 

[Loaf Warden]

If they really did go with Sacagawea, as I fear, then they're going to get that outcry anyway.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Edit: Actually no I didn't. I meant that, Pocahontas would have created an outcry. If they went with the Shoshone, I guess its because they wanted a female native leader (too many threads, losing track of what I say sometimes )

Except that Sacagawea has even less claim to leadership than Pocahontas. Pocahantas was a princess of sorts. Sacagawea was a common maiden, enslaved, sold or gambled to French guy then came back home with the Corps of Discovery to find that her brother was a Chief. She didn't even stick around. She continued traipsing off with the Corps until they went back east and she stayed with her husband until she died. Her role in the Corps was mostly as translator. She occasionally pointed them in the right direction. Her biggest contribution is that she was a female among men. The Corps would've been taken as a war party except for her presence.