Breastfeeding in public

[Patroklos]

Personally, I have no problem at all with women breastfeeding in public. I think breastfeeding is natural and healthy, and should be encouraged.

I think the same thing about masterbation. I don't want either being a public activity for the same reasons.

 

[BSmith1068]

I think the same thing about masterbation. I don't want either being a public activity for the same reasons.

Breastfeeding is sexual?

 

[Formaldehyde]

My mother taught me that it was impolite to eat or drink in front of others and not share. So I hope they bring enough for everybody.

 

[Patroklos]

Breastfeeding is sexual?

If you think the linking factor between masterbation and breast feeding is sexual then thats all on you

I suppose you have no problem with me relocating my crapper to the center of my front yard, right? We can install urinals along the walls of public malls, why waste square footage on enclosed dedicated spaces?

 

[Loppan Torkel]

Peeing in public is unsanitary, and poses a health risk to others. Breastfeeding does no such thing. Try again…

The argument was that it was ok to breastfeed in public because it was natural. Isn't there a thing called "indecent exposure" in your country? Isn't that what you're penalized with when peeing in public? Peeing is natural, but doing it in public is against the law because of indecent exposure. The same could be argued for breastfeeding. I think you should think this through a bit more before getting cocky.

 

[warpus]

The argument was that it was ok to breastfeed in public because it was natural. Isn't there a thing called "indecent exposure" in your country? Isn't that what you're penalized with when peeing in public? Peeing is natural, but doing it in public is against the law because of indecent exposure. The same could be argued for breastfeeding. I think you should think this through a bit more before getting cocky.

Where I live indecent exposure only applies to exposure of the GENITALIA, not freakin nipples.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

So let's see: apparently breastfeeding is sexual, indecent, and a public health risk, judging by the comparisons so far. Okay then. The way some people think is quite fascinating.

 

[Grisu]

The argument was that it was ok to breastfeed in public because it was natural. Isn't there a thing called "indecent exposure" in your country? Isn't that what you're penalized with when peeing in public? Peeing is natural, but doing it in public is against the law because of indecent exposure. The same could be argued for breastfeeding. I think you should think this through a bit more before getting cocky.

It's indecent exposure, not exposure per se. Exposing yourself to breastfeed your kid is not indecent and is not seen as such by most.

Also, what warpus said. I've yet to see an arrest for indecent exposure for exposing your upper body...

 

[Loppan Torkel]

Where I live indecent exposure only applies to exposure of the GENITALIA, not freakin nipples.

It was an answer to BSmith1068 as he argued that the difference was the health risk peeing in public meant... It's not that hard to follow if you read the posts.

 

[stormbind]

Yes, I do want to be breast fed in public.

Option one

 

[przemuch]

I'm almost sure most of you realise there's already pretty long thread regarding the same topic on CFC. Which brings me to the point of being amazed: what makes breastfeeding a thing people argue about again and again? Politics, religion I can understand, but this ?

First supporter capable to justify those double standards lingering in "topless discussions", without resorting to nudity-for-the-greater-good line of defense, wins.

And to make things a little bit harder for people using "this is nothing sexual" line:
Wiki sez you're wrong
Caution, not-so-decent-exposures included.

 

[Grisu]

First supporter capable to justify those double standards lingering in "topless discussions", without resorting to nudity-for-the-greater-good line of defense, wins.

what if I have no problem with either form of toplessness?

And to make things a little bit harder for people using "this is nothing sexual" line:
Wiki sayz you're wrong
Caution, not-so-decent-exposures included.

unfortunately, you fail at understanding that just because some people derive sexual arousal from something doesn't mean that it's inherently sexual. If it were the case you'd have to forbid being barefoot in public too, to only name the most obvious example.

 

[Winner]

Someone's response to the argument "but it's natural" was "so is peeing, but you don't usually do it in public."

I tend to agree

 

[stormbind]

Someone's response to the argument "but it's natural" was "so is peeing, but you don't usually do it in public."

I tend to agree

South Londoners tend to prove you wrong - they pee in public daily! I have witnessed one individual pee from his pedal bike

Crikey, in South London, I have seen multiple people masterbate in public

 

[The Imp]

I'm OK with it... but please try not to in front of me... unless you have awesome knockers.

 

[Aegis]

Breastfeeding is sexual?

>.>

The connection between the two which Patroklos was making is that they are both natural and healthy.

• 
  Argument: "breastfeeding in public should be allowed because it is natural and healthy."

• Counter argument: "masturbation in public should be allowed because it is natural and healthy."

I sit in the camp that says that efforts to make it discreet are encouraged and very much appreciated, however mothers should not be forced to go into a bathroom, etc. A simple blanket draped over the mother's shoulder is the easiest solution for common courtesy.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Fortunately in the US, we now have laws in most states to protect mothers from all the provincial prudes.

http://www.ncsl.org/issuesresearch/health/breastfeedinglaws/tabid/14389/default.aspx

Spoiler :

Forty-four states, the District of Columbia and the Virgin Islands have laws with language specifically allowing women to breastfeed in any public or private location (Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming).

Twenty-eight states, the District of Columbia and the Virgin Islands exempt breastfeeding from public indecency laws (Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming).

Twenty-four states, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico have laws related to breastfeeding in the workplace (Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington and Wyoming).

Twelve states and Puerto Rico exempt breastfeeding mothers from jury duty (California, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oregon and Virginia).

Five states and Puerto Rico have implemented or encouraged the development of a breastfeeding awareness education campaign (California, Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri and Vermont).

Several states have unique laws related to breastfeeding. For instance,

The state of Virginia allows women to breastfeed on any land or property owned by the state. Puerto Rico requires shopping malls, airports, public service government centers and other select locations to have accessible areas designed for breastfeeding and diaper changing that are not bathrooms.

At least two states have laws related to child care facilities and breastfeeding. Louisiana prohibits any child care facility from discriminating against breastfed babies. Mississippi requires licensed child care facilities to provide breastfeeding mothers with a sanitary place that is not a toilet stall to breastfeed their children or express milk, to provide a refrigerator to store expressed milk, to train staff in the safe and proper storage and handling of human milk, and to display breastfeeding promotion information to the clients of the facility.

California requires the Department of Public Health to develop a training course of hospital policies and recommendations that promote exclusive breastfeeding and specify staff for whom this model training is appropriate. The recommendation is targeted at hospitals with patients who ranked in the lowest twenty-five percent of the state for exclusive breastfeeding rates.

Maryland exempts the sale of tangible personal property that is manufactured for the purpose of initiating, supporting or sustaining breastfeeding from the sales and use tax.

California, New York and Texas have laws related to the procurement, processing, distribution or use of human milk.

New York created a Breastfeeding Mothers Bill of Rights, which is required to be posted in maternal health care facilities.

 

[MrPopov]

Fortunately in the US, we now have laws in most states to protect mothers from all the provincial prudes.

http://www.ncsl.org/issuesresearch/health/breastfeedinglaws/tabid/14389/default.aspx

Keep your government hands off mommy's breasts!

 

[Loppan Torkel]

Fortunately in the US, we now have laws in most states to protect mothers from all the provincial prudes.

http://www.ncsl.org/issuesresearch/health/breastfeedinglaws/tabid/14389/default.aspx

Has anyone here argued that breastfeeding in public should be illegalized or is this just a straw man argument by the some progressive-wannabe?

The question is the amount of discretion that should be used when breastfeeding in public.

 

[cardgame]

As to the subject at hand, I think it is fine. I'd much rather have healthier (possibly smarter? not sure) kids that were breastfed over everyone using formula because someone might freak out over "indecency"