[BtS] "Extra"

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Nordism sounds good what do you think Chiyu?

 

[Amra]

I had the same problem when adding Norse Mythology to my Warlords mod and ended up calling it "Asatru"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asatru

I'm not sure if Marnzmod included that religion but some of the others such as Amun-Ra, I believe he got from my Warlords mod. BTW, I like the looks of your modpack chiyu, I look forward to trying it out.

 

[Agent327]

IMO "Nordism" sounds silly - I'd go with Asgard/Asatru (just my 2 cents).

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

IMO "Nordism" sounds silly - I'd go with Asgard/Asatru (just my 2 cents).

Asatru sounds good. I'm fine with whatever name you choose,

 

[Willowmound]

Actually, you got the list ALMOST right. Shintoism is (sadly) not in any Civ4 mod so, I decided to take Norse Mythology instead, for the simple reason that it has been very influential in modern (gaming) culture and because Odin rules.

 

[Willowmound]

The Norse gods were called Asen, their overlord Odin - wouldn't call it Odinism though...

The Gods had two families: The Æsir (singular: Ås) and the Vanir (singular: Van).

The belief system was pan-Germanic originally. Christianity replaced it in Germany and England first. It hung around for a few centuries more in Scandinavia. This is why it's associated with the Vikings. But it was never a Viking-only religion. They were just the last ones to give it up.

Åsatru is the name most commonly used for it now. It isn't quite correct -- this was, after all, never one, dogmatic, religion. However, it's probably the best, and most easily understood, name we have. After all, best keep it simple.

 

[Willowmound]

IMO "Nordism" sounds silly - I'd go with Asgard/Asatru (just my 2 cents).

To clarify: Åsatru literally means "belief in the Æsir". Åsa from Ås, sigular of Æsir; tru = belief.

Åsgard is the name of the realm of the Æsir. Gard means farm, farmstead, cultivated or fenced-in area. Naming the belief-system Åsgard, would be like naming Christianity "heaven".

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Good to have you chime in Willow, your work with the actual quotes is amazing.

 

[Willowmound]

Thanks!

I do my best.

 

[Chiyu]

Yeah I went with Asatru. It seems to make most sense .

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Someday you should do an Extra Expanded modpack and take the best features from non-firaxis content, like Wolfanshe's expanded age of sail mod.

 

[Chiyu]

Well maybe I could, but I won't do anything until I'm 100% positive that Extra is finished and all good official firaxis content has been used .

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Sounds good to me. I'm eagerly awaiting your new version myself, this is a great mod.

 

[Chiyu]

So, here's yet another new version. I worked really hard and fast to complete this version since I needed it for a LAN party earlier this week .
I got a lot of inspiration and graphics from Marnzmod and Amra's modpack to complete the 4 new religions. Unfortunately most of the religions lacked proper buttons for the corresponding buildings and technologies, so I had to design/edit them myself to not make them look out of place with the current religions.


Download here: http://files.filefront.com/Extra313dzip/;9724773;/fileinfo.html
or
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T7P3TMNM


Changes in 3.13d:
- 4 new religions (all complete with icons, units and buildings):
* Zoroastrianism - from Greek World (vanilla) and Alexander's Conquests (warlords)
* Hellenism (fusion of Greek and Roman mythology) - from Greek World (vanilla), Peleponnesian War (warlords), Rise of Rome (warlords) and Alexander's Conquests (warlords)
* Amun-Ra - from Greek World (vanilla), Rise of Rome (warlords) and Alexander's Conquests (warlords)
* Asatru - from Vikings (warlords)

- 4 new buildings:
* The Nutrition Facility - from Final Frontier (BtS), completed it with a 3d model from this site
* The Mining Plant - from Final Frontier (BtS), completed it with a 3d model from this site
* The Stardock - from Final Frontier (BtS), completed it with a 3d model from this site
* The Stellar Market - from Final Frontier (BtS), recoloured the Supermarket model to make it look original

- 1 new national wonder:
* The Squadron Defense Network - from Final Frontier (BtS)

- 1 new wonder:
* The White House - from Road to War (BtS), changed the effects to make it act as a modern Underground Tomb

- 5 new civics (1 for each)
* Technocracy (Government) - from Final Frontier (BtS) (still have to change the 'we love the despot message')
* Authoritarian (Legal) - from Road to War (BtS)
* Mechanized Workforce (Labour) - from Final Frontier (BtS)
* Industrialism (Economy) - from Final Frontier (BtS)
* Animism (Religion) - from Chinese Unification (warlords), renamed from Daoism to Animism to avoid confusion with the religion Taoism


You can expect another update within a week, with a new civic group; Military and probably some new leaders/civilizations.

 

[Agent327]

...Daoism to Animism to avoid confusion with the religion Taoism

That would be one and the same. BTW, both t/daoism and confucianism are philosophies rather than religions (much like buddhism was originally).

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

The addition of the new religions are good but you left out the founding movies and the sounds when they spread, again a miner issue but it would be nice to have them in, like in Bmarz mod

 

[valve]

Can you upload to rapidshare? I hate megaupload, while I currently have a rapidshare account handy.

 

[Chiyu]

I know that Daoism and Taoism are the same, that's why I didn't want to have a civic called Daoism alongside a religion Taoism.

The sounds are included. The movies are not. I didn't know there were movies available, I'll investigate when I get home after the weekend .

And yeah, I'll upload it to several servers then.

 

[mice]

That would be one and the same. BTW, both t/daoism and confucianism are philosophies rather than religions (much like buddhism was originally).

There was a big thread arguing about that a year or so ago. It got intense and nearly flaming

I'll try to dig it up.

BTW the sounds of religions being founded in Marnz mod - good but the shinto sound was way too loud. If sounds come in, can they be volume blended?

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

The Zora, Hellenism and Amun Ra movies are in Bmarz mod Chiyu, as for the norse one, I'm not certain, but its probably found in the scenerio that it came with most likely. Just look around and I'm sure you'll find something. I know you will.