[BtS] "Extra"

[The Capo]

This mod looks awesome, if I had time right now I'd DL it. I hope you don't mind but I might rip off some of your stuff for my mod which won't have as many changes to gameplay as this so it won't be a competitor for you. Its just really going to be a mod with a few extra civs and leaders, with better artwork than the original.

 

[LetMyPeopleGo]

Anyone tried running 3.19 Full on 3.17? Based on what's added in Extra, I'd imagine it might work.

I second it, anyone running 3.19 Full on BTS 3.17 without problems? Please let me know.

Due to long End-of-Turn delay probably caused by BTS 3.19 I would like to revert to BTS 3.17 and play Extra 3.19.

Thanks Kadasbrass, the inbetween turn lag slowly grew in my game - large map, 8 Civs 1400AD to an unbearable delay, no fun to play anymore.

Thanks

 

[TheDesertRat]

Well, uninstalled 3.19 and tried 3.17k. Still getting massive amounts of popups. I guess I won't be playing it, as nice as it looks for the brief amount of time I get to at the start.

 

[LetMyPeopleGo]

Hi Chiyu, I miss the russian song from Extra 3.17, I still got the mod, how do I transfer it to Extra 3.19?

BTW, any info on playing Extra 3.19 full on BTS 3.17?

Thanks

 

[The Almighty dF]

Good news everyone, I've invented a device that allows you to read my post in the voice of the Professor!

Besides that, Extra 3.19 works with 3.17 without any errors so far.

 

[Kadasbrass]

so its just patch 3.19 thats causing the super long turn delays?
Edit: Nevermind, I looked up the issue and saw there was complaints on it, guess when I get a free day I'll see about switching back to 3.17

 

[The Almighty dF]

Just a couple of notes.
SETI has the wrong name displayed (Mission to Mars), and Fundamentalism... I'm not sure if it was intentional. It gives over a thousand . If it is intentional, I'd at least up the civic cost for balancing purposes. Or give it some sort of a negative effect in addition (IE a relationship penalty with non members of the faith, maybe).

 

[LetMyPeopleGo]

Hi The Almighty dF, I'm glad it's possible to play Extra 3.19 on BTS 3.17, I'll switch back to 3.17 as soon as I end my current game.

BTW, are you playing 3.19 full on 3.17?

 

[The Almighty dF]

Hi The Almighty dF, I'm glad it's possible to play Extra 3.19 on BTS 3.17, I'll switch back to 3.17 as soon as I end my current game.

BTW, are you playing 3.19 full on 3.17?

Yeah. From the previous page. Works fine so far, no slow downs or anything. No pop-ups.

Also, that glitch with civs not prioritizing military techs seems to be solved.

 

[LetMyPeopleGo]

Thanks Herr Profesoor, glad to hear it.

 

[The Capo]

Wait, what the hell? Is the 3.19 patch screwed up?

 

[DavidB1111]

I need more information before I can tell you if the patch is screwed up? What do you mean exactly? I'm a little confused.

As for Fanaticism, yeah, that's a bug. But is it over 9000?

 

[The Capo]

I need more information before I can tell you if the patch is screwed up? What do you mean exactly? I'm a little confused.

You know, unintended issues, errors etc.

 

[The Almighty dF]

You know, unintended issues, errors etc.

3.19 may be increasing load times between turns, there's a large number of complaints on the subject.

 

[DavidB1111]

I don't think there are any actually major issues with the patch. Otherwise there would have been a patch 3.20.

Only think I thought was a bug was that they ruined tanks.

 

[LetMyPeopleGo]

I've uninstalled BTS 3.19, done a clean install of BTS, applied patch 3.17 ans now I play Extra 3.19b like it should have been, no more delays of two minuets and more at each end of turn.

I doubt if firaxis will release a fix or a new patch soon so I'll stick with BTS 3.17 for now.

 

[Alkyon]

Hey, been checking out the latest version of Extra, and after "fixing" the Fundamentalism bug (changing the -1 happiness per non-state religion to 0 to prevent the overflow), it looks interesting so far.

Just one question, is the Hittite unique forge supposed to not have the -1 health bonus that the normal forge does, in addition to providing +15% with iron? It just seems a bit much too give a health bonus and the +15% on a building available so early, and never goes obsolete.

 

[DavidB1111]

Sorry Letmypeoplego, but that can't be 3.19's fault. Because I don't get that slow down at all. All games, all mods are somewhat fast. If you have really slow loading times, even if it's after an update to 3.19, it's not 3.19's fault. There's something wrong with your computer.

Kind of like how I can only run this one game when my virus scanner is running. Otherwise it's too slow.

 

[The Almighty dF]

Sorry Letmypeoplego, but that can't be 3.19's fault. Because I don't get that slow down at all. All games, all mods are somewhat fast. If you have really slow loading times, even if it's after an update to 3.19, it's not 3.19's fault. There's something wrong with your computer.

Kind of like how I can only run this one game when my virus scanner is running. Otherwise it's too slow.

He's not the only one, however.
I tried 3.19 myself (dual install, thankfully). I did notice load times had increased, though thankfully for me, my load times were very small to begin with.

I think it just depends on how bad your load times were to begin with.

 

[LetMyPeopleGo]

Hi to all,

About long load time (from the click on end turn - through waiting for other civs - to the new turn): while playing BTS 3.17 and Exstra 3.17 (last sub ver. K or l) load times reached 20 to 30 seconds on huge maps 8~10 civs 1700 to 1900 AD. I usually prefered no more than 8 civs due to old PC. (P4 3.2G, 2GBram. Radeon X800 Pro).

The day Extra 3.19a was released I also applied BTS 3.19 patch, choose a Large map not Huge as normal so to meet victory conditions easier and 8 Civs. Very soon, around 500AD my load time reached 120 sec, almost impossible to play.

Chiyu replied to my question and told me it's hardly to blame Extra 3.19a because the differences from 3.17 are not so "heavy", processing wise.

Now that I'm playing with BTS 3.17 and Extra 3.19b Full, it's better but not as fast as with BTS 3.17 & Extra 3.17, so it must be some to "blame" on Extra 3.19, or something weird happend to the basic CIV 4 installation or to my hardware.

Any Idea will be welcomed.

Thanks