[BtS] Saxony / Saggsn (modular)

[cool3a2]

Thanks!

 

[AbsintheRed]

Just to sum it up:
We discussed and I think decided to keep all the base theatre bonuses for the UB: +3 culture, +1happy/10% culture, +2 artist slots, +1 happy from dyes, DPS for Creative

There were 3 main bonus suggestions: 10% culture, 10-15% GPP, and +1 happy from wine
I think all 3 would be a little much, but any 2 of these would be fairly well balanced.
I would probably choose 10% culture and 10% GPP, but I don't mind either way, it's your call Cool...

 

[cool3a2]

Actually I liked nitrams second suggestion from one of his last posts, which was:

+10% culture
+1 if there is wine in the city
15% great people boost

Plus keeping the DPS for creative at default (not reduced anymore). The moral bonus from wine could replace the bonus for dye or it could be in addition to that from dye. But I wouldn't keep dye alone. The values might be changed a little, let's say +5 culture and +10 great people boost. But I'm open for your opinions about that. Oh, I can hear kochman complaining about the UB being to weak...

 

[AbsintheRed]

I said exactly the same bonuses in my last post, just I consider all 3 a little much

Btw, actually kochman tends to give too much bonuses for the UBs and UUs for his civs IMO, but in this case he was absolutely right. This UB wasn't good enough.

So, if you like to have all 3 bonuses, than I suggest to go with your first option. Give happiness bonus for wine instead of dyes
That would make the UB:
- +3 culture
- +1happy/10% culture
- +10% culture
- +1 happy from wine
- +10% GGP boost
- +2 artist slots
- DPS for Creative

The GPP bonus is the perfect place where we can balance this further. I would leave it on 10% right now, and if it tends to be too few, you could always raise it to 15 or 20% without any problems

 

[kochman]

Btw, actually kochman tends to give too much bonuses for the UBs and UUs for his civs IMO

Examples? Please be specific. I haven't play tested a lot of them yet, and am hoping for meaningful feedback... I have made some recent changes to some based on feedback.

 

[The Capo]

As far as the "Grenadier" UU you want. I'd like to first see what Bakuel makes to make sure it matches. I already have a model ready to go (I just have to texture it), so when I see his I can finalize it.

 

[cool3a2]

That sounds fair, The Capo. If Bakuel doesn't post his unit standalone, I'll provide at least a preview here. Thanks for your efforts!

I will think about the UB a bit more. I have to compare the suggestions with the default theatre and other theatre replacing UBs. I have to see that all myself. But today, I'm too tired.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Examples? Please be specific. I haven't play tested a lot of them yet, and am hoping for meaningful feedback... I have made some recent changes to some based on feedback.

Don't worry, I just meant that the first version of your UUs and UBs are often a little too powerful.
But you are usually willing to change/reduce them when necessary, so I'm not complaining at all

 

[AbsintheRed]

I will think about the UB a bit more. I have to compare the suggestions with the default theatre and other theatre replacing UBs. I have to see that all myself. But today, I'm too tired.

Actually I compared my/everyone's suggestions to the deafult theatre for a couple of times in my recent posts.
My last suggestion gives exactly 10% culture, 10% GPPs and +1 happy with wine instead of dye as extra bonuses.
Of course feel free to compare this with other UBs and everything else, probably I would do the same thing

 

[cool3a2]

I reuploaded the installer. My brother told me that the file he loaded, was corrupted. I guess that's what Goldfinger was talking about. Hope, there are no problems anymore now.

 

[The Capo]

Did Bakuel finish those units yet? I have a little time to work on this guy, but I wanted to have him look similar in style to Bakuel's.

 

[cool3a2]

Nope. I'll post here once he has.