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The Idea:
Have 5 leaders for every civ :eek:

The List (Recent changes in bold):
Spoiler :
America:
1. George Washington
2. Franklin Roosevelt
3. Abraham Lincoln
4. Benjamin Franklin
5. Theodore (Teddy) Roosevelt

Arabia:
1. Saladin
2. Abu Bakr
3. Saddam Hussein
4. Ali
5. Amr Al-As

Aztecs:
1. Moctezuma II (Montezuma)
2. Ahuitzotl
3. Itzcoatl
4. Tizoc
5. Nezahualpilli

China:
1. Mao Zedong
2. Qin Shi Huang
3. Zhu Yuanzhang Hongwu (Hongwu)
4. Qianlong
5. Sun Tzu

Egypt:
1. Ramesses II
2. Cleopatra VII
3. Khufu
4. Hatshepsut
5. Akhenaten

England:
1. Alexandrina Victoria (Victoria)
2. Elizabeth I
3. Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (Churchill)
4. Admiral Nelson
5. Richard I (Richard the Lionheart)

France:
1. Napoleon Bonaparte
2. Charles de Gaulle
3. Joan of Arc
4. Louis-Dieudonne (Louis XIV)
5. Richelieu

Germany:
1. Otto von Bismarck
2. Frederick II
3. Adolf Hitler
4. Kaiser Wilhelm
5. Adenauer

Greece:
1. Alexander III (The Great)
2. Pericles
3. Philip II
4. Pythia
5. Leonidas

Incas:
1. Huayna Capac
2. Pachacuti Inca Yupanqui (Pachacuti)
3. Manco Capac
4. Tupac Inca Yupanqui (Topa Inca)
5. Capac Yupanqui

India:
1. Mahatma Gandhi
2. Ashoka (Asoka)
3. Shivaji Bhosle
4. Jalaluddin Muhammad Akbar (Akbar the Great)
5 Chandragupta OR Babur

Japan:
1. Tokugawa Ieyasu (Tokugawa)
2. Takeda Shingen
3. Emperor Hirohito (Hirohito)
4. Toyotomi Hideyoshi
5. Meiji

Mali:
1. Kankan Musa (Mansa Musa)
2. Sundiata Keita
3. Abubakari II
4
5

Mongolia:
1. Genghis Temujin Khan (Genghis Khan)
2. Ogedei Khan
3. Kublai Khan
4
5

Persia:
1. Cyrus II
2. Darius I
3. Xerxes I
4. Achaemenes
5. Abbas I

Rome:
1. Gaius Julius Caesar (Julius Caesar)
2. Gaius Augustus Caesar Octavianus (Augustus Caesar)
3. Marcus Ulpius Nerva Traianus (Trajan)
4. Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus (Scipio Africanus)
5. Vespasian

Russia:
1. Catherine II
2. Joseph Stalin
3. Peter Romanov I (Peter the Great)
4. Ivan IV (Ivan the Terrible)
5. Vladimir Lenin

Spain:
1. Isabella I
2. El Cid
3. Ferdinand II
4. Hernando Cortes Pizarro (Cortes)
5. Francisco Pizarro Gonzales (Pizarro)

Carthage:
1. Hannibal Barca
2. Elissa Dido (Dido)
3. Hamilcar Barca
4
5

Celtia:
1. Brennus
2. Boudica
3. Vercingetorix
4
5

Korea:
1. Wang Geon Taejo (Wang Kon)
2. Yi Sun-Sin (Admiral Yi)
3. Yi Seong-Gye Taejo
4. Sejong Taewang (Sejong the Great)
5

Ottomans:
1. Mehmed II
2. Sultan Suleiman Khan (Suleiman the Magnificent)
3. Osman Gazi (Osman I)
4. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk (Ataturk)
5 Selim I

Vikings:
1. Ragnar Lodbrok
2. Canute II
3. Leif Ericson
4. Erich the Red
5

Zululand:
1. Shaka KaSenzangakhona (Shaka)
2. Mpande KaSenzangakhona (Mpande)
3. Cetshwayo KaMpande (Cetshwayo)
4. Ndlela KaSompisi (Ndlela)
5. KaNtombela OR Dingane

Babylonia:
1. Hammurabi
2. Nebuchadrezzar II (Nebuchadnezzar)
3. Sharru-Kinu (Sargon II)
4. Nabopolassar (Naboplasser)
5

Byzantium:
1. Theodora
2. Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus (Constantine I)
3. Flavius Petrus Sabbatius Iustinianus (Justinian I)
4. Basil
5. Manuel

Ethiopia:
1. Zara Yaqob
2. Negus Menelik II (Menelik)
3. Haile Salassie I
4
5

Holy Rome:
1. Charlemagne
2. Charles V
3. Peter Leopold Joseph (Leopold II)
4. Barbarossa
5 Otto the Great

Khmer:
1. Suryavarman II
2. Jayavarman VII
3. Indravarman I
4
5

Mayas:
1. K’inich Janaab’ Pakal (Pacal II)
2. K’ahk’ Tiliw Chan Yopaat (Cauac Sky)
3. Tecun Uman
4 Smoke Jaguar
5

Native America:
1. Tatanka Iyotake (Sitting Bull)
2. Hiawatha
3. Makhpiya Luta (Red Cloud)
4. Geronimo
5. Crazy Horse

Netherlands:
1. William I (Willem van Oranje)
2. Johan de Witt
3. Abel Janszoon Tasman
4. Maurice (Maurice van Oranje)
5

Portugal:
1. John II (Joao II)
2. Afonso Henriques
3. Ferdinand Magellan (Magellan)
4. Infante Henrique (Henry the Navigator)
5. Queen Wilhelmina

Sumeria:
1. Gilgamesh
2. Ur-Nammu
3. Lugal-Zage-Si (Lugalzaggesi)
4. Sarru-Kin (Sargon I)
5. Eannatum


To make this a reality, we need your help. We want:

XML:
- Art coders
- Leader personality coders

Art:
- LH Artists
- Button makers

Other:
- Researchers
- Text writers
-- Diplomacy
-- Pedia entries
- Music finders
- Testers
- Ideas

If you would like to help, post here or send me a PM.

Working document with more info
 
Oh cool! You're back! I was starting to think that you forgot about the idea! :mischief:

The Idea: Have 5 leaders for every civ :eek:

We need your help. We need:

XML:
- Art coders
- Leader personality coders

Art:
- LH Artists
- Button makers

Other:
- Researchers
- Text writers
- Testers
- Ideas

If you would like to help, post here or send me a PM.

Current leaders list

I'll be a:
1. Researcher
2. Ideas Man

I was making a list while you were gone. Here it is:

Spoiler :
America:
1. Washington
2. Roosevelt
3. Lincoln
4. Franklin
5. King Jr.

Arabia:
1. Saladin
2. Abu Bakr
3. Saddam Hussein
4. Ali
5. Amr Al-As

Aztecs:
1. Montezuma
2. Ahuitzotl
3. Itzcoatl
4. Tizoc
5. Nezahualpilli

China:
1. Mao Zedong
2. Qin Shi Huang
3. Hongwu
4. Qianlong
5. Qiu Jin

Egypt:
1. Ramesses
2. Cleopatra
3. Imhotep
4. Nasser
5. Menes

England:
1. Victoria
2. Elizabeth
3. Churchill
4. Richard
5. Nelson

France:
1. Napoleon
2. De Gaulle
3. Joan of Arc
4. Louis XIV
5. Clovis

Germany:
1. Bismarck
2. Frederick
3. Hitler
4. Barbarossa
5. Adenauer

Greece:
1. Alexander
2. Pericles
3. Philip
4. Pythia
5. Epaminondas

Incas:
1. Huayna Capac
2. Pachacuti
3. Manco Capac
4.
5.

India:
1. Gandhi
2. Asoka
3. Shivaji
4. Akbar
5. Babur

Japan:
1. Tokugawa
2. Takeda
3. Hirohito
4. Hideyoshi
5. Nobunaga

Mali:
1. Mansa Musa
2. Sundiata
3.
4.
5.

Mongolia:
1. Genghis Khan
2. Ogedei Khan
3. Kublai Khan
4.
5.

Persia:
1. Cyrus
2. Darius
3. Xerxes
4. Achaemenes
5.

Rome:
1. Julius Caesar
2. Augustus Caesar
3. Trajan
4. Scipio
5.

Russia:
1. Catherine
2. Stalin
3. Peter
4. Ivan the Terrible
5.

Spain:
1. Isabella
2. El Cid
3. Ferdinand
4. Pizarro
5. Cortes

Carthage:
1. Hannibal
2. Dido
3. Hamilcar
4.
5.

Celtia:
1. Brennus
2. Boudica
3. Vercingetorix
4.
5.

Korea:
1. Wang Kon
2. Admiral Yi
3. Seong-Gye
4. Sejong
5.

Ottomans:
1. Mehmed
2. Suleiman
3. Osman
4. Ataturk
5.

Vikings:
1. Ragnar
2. Canute
3. Leif Ericson
4.
5.

Zululand:
1. Shaka
2. Mpande
3. Cetshwayo
4. Dingane
5. kaNtombela

Babylonia:
1. Hammurabi
2. Nebuchadnezzar
3. Naboplasser
4.
5.

Byzantium:
1. Theodora
2. Constantine
3. Justinian
4. Basil
5. Manuel

Ethiopia:
1. Zara Yaqob
2. Menelik
3. Salassie
4.
5.

Holy Rome:
1. Charlemagne
2. Charles
3. Leopold
4. Otto
5.

Khmer:
1. Suryavarman
2. Jayavarman
3. Indravarman
4.
5.

Mayas:
1. Pacal
2. Cauac Sky
3. Tecun Uman
4.
5.

Native America:
1. Sitting Bull
2. Hiawatha
3. Red Cloud
4. Geronimo
5. Crazy Horse

Netherlands:
1. William of Orange
2. De Witt
3. Tasman
4. Maurice of Orange
5.

Portugal:
1. Joao II
2. Afonso
3. Magellan
4. Henry
5.

Sumeria:
1. Gilgamesh
2. Ur-Nammu
3. Lugal-Zage-Si
4. Sargon
5. Eannatum


It's not complete yet, but I'm working on it!

Also, if there are any people on the forums who are experts on a particular civ (eg: Arabia, Byzantium, etc), I'd like them to evaluate my choices. I'm not an expert on any of the civs, so some supervising from others is welcome. :blush:

Can you post the leader list in a thread, not in google doc.

Maybe I can do one LH if I find the time for it.

I'm with him. Just put it in a spoiler box like I do!

If we get this big enough, it could go in the Project&ModDevelopment Forum! That would be awesome!

Well, I probably shoudn't be asking this, but..... can I be second/third-in-command? :crazyeye: I don't expect you to accept, but after all, I was the guy who inspired this, right? (Check my "Bunch of Leader Head Requests" thread. It's somewhere on Page 3 right now) I promise to keep the thread alive!
 
I think Barbarossa should be HRE rather than Germany (and I'm in as a writer and researcher too :P).

Well, if you want me to switch, you'll have to give me another German leader, 'cause I can't think of any others!

I like your idea of America alot better than GigaNerd, but i like his Japan better. What else will this contain,
as far as the MOD itself?

Japan? Really? Hm.....
What do you mean you don't like King Jr.? He was on the Free Speech civic icon!
 
I like your idea of America alot better than GigaNerd, but i like his Japan better.
I actually copied his list before the changes.
What else will this contain,
as far as the MOD itself?
I'd like to be able to get every leader modular, but other than that it's just the leaders and a few extra traits.
Well, if you want me to switch, you'll have to give me another German leader, 'cause I can't think of any others!
He wasn't a great leader, but DK made a graphic for Kaiser Wilhelm.

Also for 5th Greek Leader, how about Leonidas of Sparta?
 
I actually copied his list before the changes.I'd like to be able to get every leader modular, but other than that it's just the leaders and a few extra traits.He wasn't a great leader, but DK made a graphic for Kaiser Wilhelm.

Also for 5th Greek Leader, how about Leonidas of Sparta?


Kaiser is great!!! And definitely Sparta!! And for Viking i just make Pericles into Erik the Red.(Course i put Erich) true German way, LOL:p
 
Nice list, heck i forgot about Red Cloud(Native), i should thought of that one i was stationed at Camp Red Cloud in Korea, DUH!!! (Thats where they had the opening helicopters coming in, in the M*A*S*H series.)
I do like Teddy Roosevelt (The Leader of the Rough Riders).
Are you making new original LHs or reskins?
 
Some quick comments :

France : Maybe you should add Richelieu to the list (instead od Clovis). I agree that Clovis would be a better choice but we have a fully new 3d shaded and animated LH of Richelieu. Even if he wasn't really a ruler (Joan of Arc neither), he is the one at the base of the absolutism system in France.

Japan : Meiji definitly. For three reasons. 1. He have a so important place in Japan history. 2. You have a lot of shogun and Daiymo already but not a lot of modern emperor. 3. I'm presently making a LH for it.
Also, I think it would be nice to have a Heian period leader.

Rome : Vespasien would be a nice choice I think.

Greece : Leonidas would be nice. His LH would be easy to make, I'll make it.
 
Okay, here's my working list:
Spoiler :
America:
1. George Washington
2. Franklin Roosevelt
3. Abraham Lincoln
4. Benjamin Franklin
5. Theodore (Teddy) Roosevelt OR Dr King

Arabia:
1. Saladin
2. Abu Bakr
3. Saddam Hussein
4. Ali
5. Amr Al-As

Aztecs:
1. Moctezuma II (Montezuma)
2. Ahuitzotl
3. Itzcoatl
4. Tizoc
5. Nezahualpilli

China:
1. Mao Zedong
2. Qin Shi Huang
3. Zhu Yuanzhang Hongwu (Hongwu)
4. Qianlong
5. Sun Tzu

Egypt:
1. Ramesses II
2. Cleopatra VII
3. Khufu
4. Hatshepsut
5. Akhenaten

England:
1. Alexandrina Victoria (Victoria)
2. Elizabeth I
3. Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (Churchill)
4. Admiral Nelson
5. Richard I (Richard the Lionheart)

France:
1. Napoleon Bonaparte
2. Charles de Gaulle
3. Joan of Arc
4. Louis-Dieudonne (Louis XIV)
5. Clovis

Germany:
1. Otto von Bismarck
2. Frederick II
3. Adolf Hitler
4. Kaiser Wilhelm
5. Adenauer

Greece:
1. Alexander III (The Great)
2. Pericles
3. Philip II
4. Pythia
5. Leonidas OR Epaminondas

Incas:
1. Huayna Capac
2. Pachacuti Inca Yupanqui (Pachacuti)
3. Manco Capac
4. Tupac Inca Yupanqui (Topa Inca)
5. Capac Yupanqui

India:
1. Mahatma Gandhi
2. Ashoka (Asoka)
3. Shivaji Bhosle
4. Jalaluddin Muhammad Akbar (Akbar the Great)
5 Chandragupta OR Babur

Japan:
1. Tokugawa Ieyasu (Tokugawa)
2. Takeda Shingen
3. Emperor Hirohito (Hirohito)
4. Toyotomi Hideyoshi
5. Meiji OR Nobunaga

Mali:
1. Kankan Musa (Mansa Musa)
2. Sundiata Keita
3. Abubakari II
4
5

Mongolia:
1. Genghis Temujin Khan (Genghis Khan)
2. Ogedei Khan
3. Kublai Khan
4
5

Persia:
1. Cyrus II
2. Darius I
3. Xerxes I
4. Achaemenes
5

Rome:
1. Gaius Julius Caesar (Julius Caesar)
2. Gaius Augustus Caesar Octavianus (Augustus Caesar)
3. Marcus Ulpius Nerva Traianus (Trajan)
4. Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus (Scipio Africanus)
5

Russia:
1. Catherine II
2. Joseph Stalin
3. Peter Romanov I (Peter the Great)
4. Ivan IV (Ivan the Terrible)
5. Alexander Nevskiy

Spain:
1. Isabella I
2. El Cid
3. Ferdinand II
4. Hernando Cortes Pizarro (Cortes)
5. Francisco Pizarro Gonzales (Pizarro)

Carthage:
1. Hannibal Barca
2. Elissa Dido (Dido)
3. Hamilcar Barca
4
5

Celtia:
1. Brennus
2. Boudica
3. Vercingetorix
4
5

Korea:
1. Wang Geon Taejo (Wang Kon)
2. Yi Sun-Sin (Admiral Yi)
3. Yi Seong-Gye Taejo
4. Sejong Taewang (Sejong the Great)
5

Ottomans:
1. Mehmed II
2. Sultan Suleiman Khan (Suleiman the Magnificent)
3. Osman Gazi (Osman I)
4. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk (Ataturk)
5 Selim I

Vikings:
1. Ragnar Lodbrok
2. Canute II
3. Leif Ericson
4. Erich the Red
5

Zululand:
1. Shaka KaSenzangakhona (Shaka)
2. Mpande KaSenzangakhona (Mpande)
3. Cetshwayo KaMpande (Cetshwayo)
4. Ndlela KaSompisi (Ndlela)
5. KaNtombela OR Dingane

Babylonia:
1. Hammurabi
2. Nebuchadrezzar II (Nebuchadnezzar)
3. Sharru-Kinu (Sargon II)
4. Nabopolassar (Naboplasser)
5

Byzantium:
1. Theodora
2. Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus (Constantine I)
3. Flavius Petrus Sabbatius Iustinianus (Justinian I)
4. Basil
5. Manuel

Ethiopia:
1. Zara Yaqob
2. Negus Menelik II (Menelik)
3. Haile Salassie I
4
5

Holy Rome:
1. Charlemagne
2. Charles V
3. Peter Leopold Joseph (Leopold II)
4. Barbarossa
5 Otto the Great

Khmer:
1. Suryavarman II
2. Jayavarman VII
3. Indravarman I
4
5

Mayas:
1. K’inich Janaab’ Pakal (Pacal II)
2. K’ahk’ Tiliw Chan Yopaat (Cauac Sky)
3. Tecun Uman
4 Smoke Jaguar
5

Native America:
1. Tatanka Iyotake (Sitting Bull)
2. Hiawatha
3. Makhpiya Luta (Red Cloud)
4. Geronimo
5. Crazy Horse

Netherlands:
1. William I (Willem van Oranje)
2. Johan de Witt
3. Abel Janszoon Tasman
4. Maurice (Maurice van Oranje)
5

Portugal:
1. John II (Joao II)
2. Afonso Henriques
3. Ferdinand Magellan (Magellan)
4. Infante Henrique (Henry the Navigator)
5. Queen Wilhelmina

Sumeria:
1. Gilgamesh
2. Ur-Nammu
3. Lugal-Zage-Si (Lugalzaggesi)
4. Sarru-Kin (Sargon I)
5. Eannatum
Any comments should be posted here.

I'm trying to get a repositry set up on Google Code. Keep your eyes peeled.

Some quick comments :

France : Maybe you should add Richelieu to the list (instead od Clovis). I agree that Clovis would be a better choice but we have a fully new 3d shaded and animated LH of Richelieu. Even if he wasn't really a ruler (Joan of Arc neither), he is the one at the base of the absolutism system in France.

Japan : Meiji definitly. For three reasons. 1. He have a so important place in Japan history. 2. You have a lot of shogun and Daiymo already but not a lot of modern emperor. 3. I'm presently making a LH for it.
Also, I think it would be nice to have a Heian period leader.

Rome : Vespasien would be a nice choice I think.

Greece : Leonidas would be nice. His LH would be easy to make, I'll make it.

I'll go update my list with these new entries! Check back soon!
 
I'd certainly like to be involved in this project as a researcher/ideas man, though I'm worthless in things such as XML and graphics.

The comments I have about the list as is currently posted:

Benjamin Franklin nor Dr. King are good ones for the United States, as neither was really a leader. I would propose as a replacement for Franklin as Kennedy, who is, while debated whether a great leader, is certainly a recognized leader. Teddy Roosevelt as replacement for King is fine in my book.

Saddam Hussein is NOT good for Arabia, as he never really had much influence over ALL Arabs. However, one that I would put in this one who is not in fact Arab, would be T.E. Lawrence, as a military leader and recognized as an "Arab" leader the world over as well as more modern. If not Lawrence, then I would put as a leader Faisal I of Iraq, who is far more Pan-Arab than Hussein.

I would not put Sun Tzu as a Chinese leader, but rather in his place, Dr. Sun Yatsen, the father of modern China from both the Communist and Nationalist perspective (i.e. both PRC and ROC)

Nelson would in my opinion be very BAD as a British leader, as he was a politically non-astute Admiral, and only remembered for one battle. However, in his place, the Duke of Wellington would be appropriate.

In place of Clovis and Joan of Arc, who in my opinion are not appropriate for France, I would place Richelieu, who really was the architect of the system which produced Louis XIV, and Hugh Capet, the founder of the Capetian dynasty and modern France as it were.

In Germany, I would keep Hitler, but definitely create a replacement, such as Hindenburg, in an idea to avoid the Nazism. I would also specify Wilhelm II as Kaiser Wilhelm, rather than his grandfather.

With Greece, I would retract Pythia, and put a more modern ruler, George I of Greece, or possibly one of the later Greek rulers, but definitely NOT Pythia. I would also definitely pick Leonidas over Epaminodas.

Meiji DEFINITELY with Japan. He was EXTREMELY important in modern Japan.

I would replace Nevskiy in Russia with Lenin, who was an extremely important and influential ruler.

Spain, I would almost completely change. El Cid, Ferdinand, Cortes, and Pizzaro are, in my opinion, not good selections. I would myself put Charles I if he were not more important as Holy Roman Emperor. As my other Spanish leaders, I would definitely include Francisco Franco, and possibly Juan Carlos I. I don't know about other ones, though your idea of Ferdinand is a possibility.

As the last Korean, I would include Syngman Rhee just in my general Idea that we should have at least one relatively modern ruler for any country that still exists. I would possibly include Kim Il Sung, definitely considered an important Korean ruler, in place of one of the others.

With the Vikings, that's EriK the Red, not Erich, and Leif Eriksson. Otherwise I have no other ideas.

With the Netherlands/Portugal, I think we got Queen Wilhelmina switched...otherwise no comment on the Dutch. With Portuguese, I would NOT include Magellan (as he sailed for Spain despite being Portuguese...or vice versa, I can't recall).

Otherwise, off the top of my head, I have no other commentary.
 
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