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C2C civilizations megapack

Discussion in 'C2C mod mods' started by Sparth, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. Nerdman3000

    Nerdman3000 Chieftain

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    Like I stated in an earlier post, I hope you can add the countries of Atlantis, Latveria, Wakanda, and Bialya into your megapack.
     
  2. Sparth

    Sparth C2C Team Member

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    Sure will add this too.
    Any suggestion about leaders?
     
  3. Nerdman3000

    Nerdman3000 Chieftain

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    Black Panther and Victor Von Doom would definitely be the leaders of Wakanda nd Latveria respectively, and Queen Bee is Queen of Bialya, so she would be it's Leader. There are two possible kings to use for Atlantis, and it depends on which you based the civ on. There is Atlas from the original myth, who Atlantis's first king, and then there's King Nedakh from the Disney Atlantis movie. Personally both are fine to use.
     
  4. Sparth

    Sparth C2C Team Member

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    OK got some time today and added Ulm, Wakanda, Lebanon, Latvaria, Bialya and Atlantis civilizations. Have fun :)
     
  5. GiuseppeIII

    GiuseppeIII The Third Giuseppe

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    GiuseppeIII The Third Giuseppe

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    Warning lots of text below

    Other Inconsistencies/Bugs/problems found in the sevopidia
    Haven't actually read the entries for typos

    Spoiler :

    Civilizations
    Aboriginal - no noticeable problems
    Ainu - no noticeable problems
    Aka - weird formatting/line splits
    Akkadian empire - weird formatting of quote
    Albanian - very small - no actual problems
    Amazonian - has headers(most other civs don't) no need for strategy part as it doesn't work with c2c anyway
    Anasazi - no tabs at the beginnings of paragraphs
    Angolan - very small - no actual problems
    Apache - weird formatting/line splitting
    Arabian - no noticeable problems
    Arawak - the icon looks very low-res
    Armenian – has middle eastern culture, could be considered European…
    Assyrian – no paragraph spacing, uses NSEW as abbreviations for directions – looks confusing, quick skim found typo or confusing statement – the nucleus of a Semitic state was formed…, abbreviated century to cent. for no reason. Has a space at the bottom
    Atlantis – Has header (most other civs don't), just a super long paragraph
    Australian - no noticeable problems
    Austrian - no noticeable problems
    Aztec - no noticeable problems
    Babylonian – has headers(most other civs don't) no need for strategy part as it doesn't work with c2c anyway
    Baktrian – quotes around first paragraph for no reason
    Barbarian - no noticeable problems
    Balarusian – just 1 long paragraph
    Belgian – no space between paragraphs, some weird symbols – of Lià “ge., the eighty years war (1568—1648), etc.
    Benin - no noticeable problems
    Berber - has headers(most other civs don't) no need for strategy part as it doesn't work with c2c anyway, has Middle East culture – they were more from north Africa then the middle east, icon looks low-res ish, space at the bottom
    Bialya – very small – no actual problems
    Bohemian – no spacing between paragraphs
    Bolivian – small – no actual problems
    Brazilian – icon has weird colors at the corners, last paragraph makes no sense
    Bulgarian – tbc at the bottom of the entry
    Burmese – just one long paragraph
    Byzantine - has headers(most other civs don't) no need for strategy part as it doesn't work with c2c anyway
    Californian – very small, has an annotation from Wikipedia not removed, typo: Sacramento has been the state capital since 1854 (was missing the “the”)
    Cameron – just one long paragraph, name not called empire (vast majority of other civs are)
    Canadian - no noticeable problems
    Carthaginian – first paragraph doesn't have a tab, space at the bottom
    Celtic – first paragraph doesn't have a tab, space at the bottom
    Cherokee – no space between paragraphs
    Chilean – space at the bottom
    Chinese – no noticeable problems
    Chippewa – no noticeable problems
    Cimmerians – small – 2nd half of paragraph breaks “immersion”
    Colombian – very, very small – no actual problems
    Comanche - name not called empire (vast majority of other civs are), weird spacing at the bottom
    Confederate states of America – name to long to fit in the sevopidia tab, link at the bottom useless – you can't click a link in the sevopidia, name not called empire (vast majority of other civs are)
    Congolese – no noticeable problems
    Croatian – no noticeable problems
    Cuba – name not called empire (vast majority of other civs are)
    Dacian – just one long paragraph
    Denmark - name not called empire (vast majority of other civs are)
    Dutch – has headers(most other civs don't) no need for strategy part as it doesn't work with c2c anyway
    Ecuadorian – small – no actual problems
    Basques – just one long paragraph, named empire of basque instead of basque empire
    Iceland – just one long paragraph , named empire of Iceland instead of Icelandic empire
    Oman – just one long paragraph, named empire of Oman instead of Oman empire
    English – no noticeable problems
    Estonian – just one long paragraph
    Ethiopian - has headers(most other civs don't) no need for strategy part as it doesn't work with c2c anyway
    Etruscan – icon is low res ish
    European Union – not called empire, just one long paragraph
    Filipino – no noticeable problems
    Finland – not called empire
    French – icon looks weird…
    Gallic – small – no actual problems
    Georgia – not called empire
    Germany – no noticeable problems
    Gothic – no noticeable problems
    Greek – no noticeable problems
    Gypsy – just one long paragraph, “ especially Central and Eastern” is bolded for no reason
    Haida – no noticeable problems
    Hittite – no noticeable problems
    Holy Roman Empire – heading/strategy tab
    Hungarian – no noticeable problems
    Hunnic – first paragraph weird and super small
    Huron – small – no actual problems
    Illyrian – has a link to the Albanian page – cool but no other civilization page has this, icon low res ish
    Incan – no noticeable problems
    Indian – no noticeable problems
    Indonesian – heading/strategy tab
    Inuit – some weird spacing
    Iraqi – just one long paragraph
    Irish – no noticeable problems
    Iroquois – weird blurb at the bottom
    Islamic republic of Afrghanistan - not called empire, name to long for sevopidia screen, no spacing between paragraphs
    Islamic republic of Iran – small, not called empire
    Islamic republic of Pakistan – not called empire, name to long for sevopidia screen
    Israeli – no spacing between paragraphs
    Italian – no noticeable problems
    Japanese – no noticeable problems
    Jivaro – no noticeable problems
    Jomon – no noticeable problems
    Kanem-Bornu – no noticeable problems
    Khazar Khaganate – one long paragraph, not called empire, “0965) the Khazars dominated the vast weirdly bolded
    Khmer – headings/strategy tab
    Gondor – just one long paragraph, called kingdom of not empire
    Jordan – called kingdom of not empire, small
    Morroco – called kingdom of not empire, middle eastern culture – Morocco is in Africa
    Norway – called kingdom of, small, “[note 1]” and “[2]”
    Westerns – called kingdom of, very very small
    Kiowa – small – no actual problem
    Korean – Kim Jung Il is a leader of it – might be better to just have a North Korea civ…
    Kuwait – small – no actual problem
    Kyrati – very very small – no actual problem
    Latverian – just one large paragraph
    Latvian – just one large paragraph
    Lebanon – just one large paragraph
    Libyan – headings/strategy
    Lydian – small, “[1]”
    Maasi – no noticeable problems
    Madagascar – no noticeable problems
    Malagasy – no noticeable problems
    Malaysia – not called empire
    Manlinese – no noticeable problems
    Manchuria – no noticeable problems
    Maori – no noticeable problems
    Maya – headings/strategy, no paragraph spacing
    Mexican – no noticeable problems
    Minoan – weird paragraph spacing at bottom
    Minor nation – “it's a small nation”…
    Mississippian – small – no actual problem
    Moldovan – one long paragraph
    Mongolian – no noticeable problems
    Mughal – no paragraph spacing
    Native American – strategy/headings, no paragraph spacing, who is there a native America empire? There are already different Native American tribes, might as well just move the leaders to their own respect tribes
    Navajo – no noticeable problems
    Nazca – called nasca in entry (technically both are right, but it is better to be consistent)
    Neaderthal – one long long paragraph, no tab at the beginning of paragraph, low res ish flag
    Nepalese – small – no real problems
    New Zealand – “[2]”
    Nigerian, Nubian, Olmec – no noticeable problems
    Ottoman – no tab on first paragraph, space at bottom
    Paleo Indians – not called empire, weird icon
    Paraguayan – small – no actual problem
    Parthian – small – no actual problem
    Persian – no noticeable problems
    Persian – small – no actual problems
    Phoenician – no noticeable problems
    Pictish – no noticeable problems
    Pirate – space at bottom
    Polish – no noticeable problems
    Polynesian – no noticeable problems
    Portuguese – headings/strategy, no space between paragraphs
    Quebec – just one long paragraph
    Algeria – not called empire, short
    Costa Rica – not called empire, one long paragraph
    Honduras – not called empire, very short, no indent on first paragraph
    Kazakhstan – not called empire
    Kenya – not called empire, very small
    Lithuania – not called empire
    Uganda – not called empire, very small, no ident on first paragraph
    Roman – no noticeable problems
    Romanian – no noticeable problems
    Russian – no noticeable problems
    Sami – one long paragraph
    Samaritan – one long paragraph
    Saxon – one long paragraph
    Scottish – no space between paragraphs
    Scythian – no noticeable problems
    Senegal – small – no actual problems
    Serbian – bolded parts, weird icons, one long paragraph
    Siamese – weird indents, no paragraph spacing
    Siberian – headings/strategy, no spacing between paragraphs
    Slovak – makes no sense at all
    Slovene – small – no real problems
    Somali – Somalia is in Africa but has middle eastern culture
    Songhai – no paragraph spacing
    South African – European culture…
    Spanish – no noticeable problems
    Spartans – not called empire, heading
    Sudanese – one long paragraph
    Sumerian – headings/strategy, no spacing between paragraphs
    Swedish – no noticeable problems
    Swiss – no spacing between paragraphs
    Syrian – small - no real problems
    Ulm – Called TXT_KEY_CIV_ULMDESC, has link at the top – pointless since you can't click on links through the sevopidia
    Tanzanian – small – no real problems
    Texas – small – no real problems
    Bangladesh – not called empire, name is too long for sevopidia
    Thracian – one long paragraph
    Tibetan – some weird spacing
    Toltec – one long long paragraph, weird icon
    Transylvania – short – no real problems
    Trojan - no noticeable problems
    Tupi – no noticeable problems
    Ukraine – not called empire
    Union – not called empire, one long paragraph
    United States – not called empire
    Uruguayan – short – no actual problems
    Uzbek – some weird spacing
    Vandal – headings/strategy
    Vatican – not called empire, one long paragraph
    Venezuelan – one long long long paragraph
    Vietnamese – no noticeable problems
    Viking – first paragraph not tabbed
    Wakanda – not called empire, short, first paragraph not tabbed
    Wales – not called empire
    Xiongnu – some weird spacing
    Yangshao – no noticeable problems
    Yemen – one long paragraph
    Zapotec – no noticeable problems
    Zimbabwean – headings/strategy, no spacing between paragraphs
    Zulu – first paragraph not tabbed, space at bottom

    Whew that's it, I might have missed some…


    Suggestions:
    I think all of the entries for the sevopidia should be made shorter and standardized. It makes them a lot easier to read and digestiable, especially with the area to read being pretty small.

    Also it might be better to remove all the prefix and suffixes for the civs (empire, republic of, etc.)

    The flags also all don't go together – seems very hard so I understand why it wasn't done, but it would give the mod a very polished feel


    I wouldn't mind helping fix the sevopidia, although I'm not familiar with modding and would probably need some help


    Other misc sevopidia problems:
    Build’g Upgrade tab – I think this is just a typo
    Index is bugged


    I'll try to do this for the leaders next, if it was appreciated.
     
  7. Sparth

    Sparth C2C Team Member

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    Thanks for this informations. Ill try to fix it in this week. Also Ill add Fundation to the list.
     
  8. GiuseppeIII

    GiuseppeIII The Third Giuseppe

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    I can try to help fix/design new entries if you would like the help, I could try to, as per my suggestion in my above comment, make all of the entries unified in style and shorter so as to make the information easier on the eyes and more digestible.
     
  9. Sparth

    Sparth C2C Team Member

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    Any help will be great because my English is quite rusty. Im not native speaker and sometimes i make some stupid errors.
    XML files are quite easy to edit. Best download and install Notepad++. Its great tool to edit these sort of files.
    Here is the link:
    https://notepad-plus-plus.org/download/v6.8.8.html

    Then download my megapack. All texts are put in _Civ4GameText.xml files.
    When you done with editing then pack everything and put on some free file storage portal. For example Wetransfer, DoSBox or Google Disk. After this Ill add new flags for Arawak and Etruscans and add Galactic Empire to Megapack.
     
  10. GiuseppeIII

    GiuseppeIII The Third Giuseppe

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    Ill try to rework the pedia files and send them here. What to you think of these suggestions before I start though:

    Also here are all of the civs that have problems in the pedia outside of just their history description:
    Spoiler :

    Arawak - the icon looks very low-res
    Armenian – has middle eastern culture, could be considered European…
    Berber - has headers(most other civs don't) no need for strategy part as it doesn't work with c2c anyway, has Middle East culture – they were more from north Africa then the middle east, icon looks low-res ish, space at the bottom
    Brazilian – icon has weird colors at the corners, last paragraph makes no sense
    Cameron – just one long paragraph, name not called empire (vast majority of other civs are)
    Comanche - name not called empire (vast majority of other civs are), weird spacing at the bottom
    Confederate states of America – name to long to fit in the sevopidia tab, link at the bottom useless – you can't click a link in the sevopidia, name not called empire (vast majority of other civs are)
    Cuba – name not called empire (vast majority of other civs are)
    Denmark - name not called empire (vast majority of other civs are)
    Basques – just one long paragraph, named empire of basque instead of basque empire
    Iceland – just one long paragraph , named empire of Iceland instead of Icelandic empire
    Oman – just one long paragraph, named empire of Oman instead of Oman empire
    Etruscan – icon is low res ish
    European Union – not called empire, just one long paragraph
    Finland – not called empire
    Georgia – not called empire
    Illyrian – has a link to the Albanian page – cool but no other civilization page has this, icon low res ish
    Islamic republic of Afrghanistan - not called empire, name to long for sevopidia screen, no spacing between paragraphs
    Islamic republic of Iran – small, not called empire
    Islamic republic of Pakistan – not called empire, name to long for sevopidia screen
    Khazar Khaganate – one long paragraph, not called empire, “0965) the Khazars dominated the vast weirdly bolded
    Gondor – just one long paragraph, called kingdom of not empire
    Jordan – called kingdom of not empire, small
    Morroco – called kingdom of not empire, middle eastern culture – Morocco is in Africa
    Norway – called kingdom of, small, “[note 1]” and “[2]”
    Westerns – called kingdom of, very very small
    Korean – Kim Jung Il is a leader of it – might be better to just have a North Korea civ…
    Native American – strategy/headings, no paragraph spacing, who is there a native America empire? There are already different Native American tribes, might as well just move the leaders to their own respect tribes
    Neaderthal – one long long paragraph, no tab at the beginning of paragraph, low res ish flag
    Paleo Indians – not called empire, weird icon
    Algeria – not called empire, short
    Costa Rica – not called empire, one long paragraph
    Honduras – not called empire, very short, no indent on first paragraph
    Kazakhstan – not called empire
    Kenya – not called empire, very small
    Lithuania – not called empire
    Uganda – not called empire, very small, no ident on first paragraph
    Serbian – bolded parts, weird icons, one long paragraph
    Somali – Somalia is in Africa but has middle eastern culture
    South African – European culture…
    Ulm – Called TXT_KEY_CIV_ULMDESC, has link at the top – pointless since you can't click
    Spartans – not called empire, heading
    Bangladesh – not called empire, name is too long for sevopidia
    Ukraine – not called empire
    Union – not called empire, one long paragraph
    United States – not called empire
    Vatican – not called empire, one long paragraph
    Wakanda – not called empire, short, first paragraph not tabbed
    Wales – not called empire


    Edit: Most of these have problems with their name (not called _______ empire or too long for the pedia) but a few have the wrong culture/low-res flags
     
  11. Sparth

    Sparth C2C Team Member

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    From my experience most people dont read pedia entries. Especialy long ones. And beacause of that - shorter = better. If people want more info then wikipedia or other pages are helpful.

    As for standardization of the text - im 100% for this :)

    Icons/flags leave to me. Easy to fix this.
     
  12. GiuseppeIII

    GiuseppeIII The Third Giuseppe

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    Sounds good, will start on the civilization pedia entries soon! Then I hope to expand from there!
     
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    @Sparth: do you plan to update your Polish version of the Megapack? It seems old version causes some problems now. Since some mid-January SVN I started to get messages about some xml problems with (IIRC) Andean_Worker_2. At some stage (early Ancient era) I got an unavoidable CTD. After I installed the most recent SVN and Megapack the game starts and runs smoothly.

    S.
     
  14. Sparth

    Sparth C2C Team Member

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    Sure, but I think not sooner that in late February. Just got too many projects at once :)
     
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    I understand, a day has only 24 hours ;)
     
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    Heti123 Fallen Human

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    Lebanese city names are off
     
  18. Sparth

    Sparth C2C Team Member

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    Checked and looks ok for me. I can post a screenshot if you want.
     
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    I meant that the second sity you build is called "Ra's Bayrut", which means the head of Beirut. They're pointing up to districts and geographical locations, instead of actual cities and villages
     
  20. Sparth

    Sparth C2C Team Member

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    Ok got it. Maybe other cities names are also wrong. I take them from wiki. Can you post here a list of 45 (can be little less or more) biggest cities from Lebanon? Then I put them in the XML and post my modmod again with actual name list.
     

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