C3C PBEM : "Haiti" - Restart

[von_Clausewitz]

Sent to Classical

 

[classical_hero]

GPS. After this turn I will be posting spoilers.

 

[qummik]

GPS 1524AD, turn 34.

 

[fe3333au]

Turn 34 - Court of Her Most Catholic Magesty, England ... Year of the Lord - 1524​

Spoiler Lurkers Only :

For Lurkers only ... come on guyz play fair ... Bet you cheat at Patience

Password - 3333

Happenings
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French World Map gifted.
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Knowledge Discovered ... nix
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York ... Colonist
Bristol ... Cathedral
Plymouth ... Colonist
Dublin .... Colonist
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nix founded


Domestic Information
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Economy - 89 gold +102 per turn
Research - Fortification in xxx turns @ 00% ... then wait and accumulate
Entertainment - 0%
Government - Catholic Monachy
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Resources
Luxuries ... Dyes x 1, Tobacco x 1 2
Strategic ... Iron x 3, Horses x 1, Saltpeter x 2
Unconnected
Port Royal ... Tobacco x 1
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Current Trade
... Fine French Wine traded for 3gpt ... Turn 20/8 to go ... later for free
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Knowledge Discovered

Spoiler :

1490 - 1500 ... Banking
1501 - 1503 ... Professional Armies, 10% until trade deal established.
1504 - 1504 ... 100% Cash
1505 - 1514 ... Metallurgy
1515 - 1517 ... 100% Cash, waiting for deals to arrive.
1518 - 1522 ... Mining
1523 - 1524 ... 100% Cash, Waiting for deal to arrive

CITIES

Spoiler :

Annapolis ... 1519 Founded
[T, - 1pop+5 (0xHappy, 1xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 8/10+2, +1gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+3, Shields = 1/2 ... Courthouse RUSH -48 gold
... Sioux tribes nearby !!!
... furs, chop
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Williamsburg ... 1520 Founded, Halfway Transit Fortess
[, - 1pop+6 (0xHappy, 1xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 0/10+0, +2gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+0, Shields = 2/1 ... Harbour in 11 ... Courthouse next
... Halfway Terminal
... road, chop, irrigate, mine hills
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London ... 1490 Original Capital
[P,B,G,T,M,L,Ct,W,A,K,U,H,Nav,Bk,Co, - 11pop+0 (2xHappy, 8xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 559/1000+15, +54gp (1xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+0, Shields = 7/0 ... Pike in 1 ... Colonist, Knight next
...
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York ... 1490 Original
[G,T,M,L,Ct,W,A,H,B,Co,Bk, - 7pop+4 (2xHappy, 4xContent, 1xUnhappy)
Culture 212/1000+6, +36gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+1, Shields = 8/0 ... Pike in 2 ... Pike, Colonist next
... start chop with 1 slave for Cathedral in 20
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Bristol ... 1490 Original
[G,T,M,L,C,W,H,B,Co,K, - 7pop+5 (2xHappy, 5xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 161/1000+9, +33gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+0, Shields = 12/0 ... Pike in 2 ... Colonist next
...
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Plymouth ... 1490 Original
[G,T,M,L,Ct,W,H,B,A, - 6pop+3 (2xHappy, 3xContent, 1xUnhappy)
Culture 140/1000+4, +18gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+0, Shields = 9/0 ... Colosseum in 7 ... next
...
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Dublin ... 1490 Original
[G,T,H,L,A, - 5pop+1 (2xHappy, 2xContent, 1xUnhappy)
Culture 52/100+4, +11gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+1, Shields = 11/1 ... Colonist in 1 ... Pike, Colosseum next.
...
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Jamestown ... 1501 Founded
[Ct,H, - 3pop+3 (2xHappy, 0xContent, 1xUnhappy)
Culture 0/10+0, +6gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+2, Shields = 3/0 ... Temple in 1
...
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Yorktown ... 1505 Founded
[T,H,Ct,B,Tob, - 6pop+2 (2xHappy, 2xContent, 1xUnhappy)
Culture 36/100+2, +17gp (1xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+6, Shields = 10/3 ... Colosseum in 3
... mine hills
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Norfolk ... 1510 Founded Port Royal, 1514 Renamed
[Ct,T, - 2pop+0 (2xHappy, 0xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 2/10+2, +3gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+1, Shields = 3/1 ... Library in 13 ... Marketplace next
... irrigate grasslands after mine complete
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Port Royal ... 1514 Founded/Renamed
[Ct,Tob, - 2pop+0 (0xHappy, 2xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 0/10+0, +5gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+4, Shields = 5/3 ... Temple in 2 ... Harbour next
... get roads
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St. Mary's City ... 1517 Founded
[T, - 2pop+8 (2xHappy, 0xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 8/10+2, +2gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+2, Shields = 1/2 ... Courthouse RUSH -48 gold
... road furs, cut forest over grass, irrigate, mine iron,
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Spoiler City Improvements :

P - Palace
B - Barracks
G - Granary
M - Marketplace
L - Library
Ct - Courthouse
W - Walls
H - Harbour
A - Aqueduct
K - Cathedral
U - University
Nav - Navigation School
Co - Colosseum
Bk - Bank
Pelt - Trapper Camp ... Treasure x 12 turns
Tob - Tobacco Plantation ... Treasure x 8 turns
CP - Colonial Palace
Gem - Gem Mine ... Treasure x 5 turns
Au - Gold Mine ... Treasure x 3 turns
Ag - Silver Mine ... Treasure x 5 turns

Military and other Goodly Folk

Spoiler :

Military - Roll Call
*Mace = Medieval Infantry

Settler ... 0
Colonists ... 1 4
Workers ... 16
Explorers ... 2

Slave Trade and POWs

Spoiler :

Aztec ... 1
Inca
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Dutch
Spanish
French
Portugese
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1516 ... Traded Native Worker from the Aztec

Longbow ... 1
Mace ... 1
Pikeman ... 18
Trebuchet ... 2

Chivalry and Horse Tales

Spoiler :

Knight ... 1
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1523 ... Sir Ritter (4/4)

Treasure from the New World

Spoiler :

Effect 200 gold and 1000 Victory Pnts when returned to capital.
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Produced in New World ... 0
Returned to England ... 0
Lost to Hostile Action ... 0
Lost to War ... 0
Captured from Enemy ... 0
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History
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Naval Matters

Spoiler :

Carrack ... 5
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HMCarrack - Piety () -> HOME
- Built pre-1490, Upgraded 1518
...
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HMCarrack - Hope () -> Williamsburg
- Built pre-1490, Upgraded 1521
... Halfway loading point
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HMCarrack - Faith (Workerx3) -> Port Royal
- Built pre-1490, Upgraded 1522
...
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HMCarrack - Charity (Worker,Colonist,Sir Ritter,) -> Williamsburg
- Built pre-1490, Upgraded 1521
... load Colonist from Dublin
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HMCarrack - Avarice () -> HOME
- Built 1516,
...
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History of Combat

Spoiler :

> Naval Action

Spoiler :

1490 - God Bless All Who Sail - HMCv. Hope and HMCv. Faith sail west to the edge of the World.
1493 - Land Lo - Exploration Fleet discovers land !!!
1494 - Claiming New England - English feet step onto the New World
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> Land Warfare

Spoiler :

Worst than the Black Death, We suffer an outbreak of World Peace
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> Barbarian Actions/Encounters/Cleansing

Spoiler :

Scalps ... 12
Camps Cleared ... 6
Englishmen MIA ... 1
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1491 - Irish Situation, Hills of Dublin - Longbow vs. Irish Longbow = RIP.
1492 - Irish Hill Camp - Longbow vs. Irish Archer = RIP.
1496 - Irish Quelled - Longbow vs. Irish Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp.
1498 - New World Encounter - Mace vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP.
1500 - Millenium Clearing - Mace vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp.
1502 - Cherokee Camp - Mace vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP.
1503 - Cherokee Bonfire - Mace vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp.
1504 - Lost Explorer - Explorer = RIP, suspect hostile Natives with a taste for English meat !!!
1506 - New Tribe - Mace vs. Seminol Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp.
1508 - Field Promotion - Mace = Veteran vs. Seminole Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp
1511 - Better Bow Skills - Longbow vs. Illinios Archer = RIP
1513 - Camp Cleared - Longbow vs. Illinios Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp
1515 - Clearing Norfolk Heights - Pike vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP
15xx -
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Dipomacy

vs. Spain - classical_hero (classical@X)

Spoiler :

PEACE ... But don't Trust !!!
Researching ?? in ???
English Military - WEAK
War with Aztecs
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Past Deals
... nix
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Trade options
... nix Technology
... nix Luxury nor Resource
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Copernicus' Observatory in Madrid (1509 AD)
Sistine Chapel in Madrid (1520 AD)
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Spain ...
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Me ...
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vs. Portugal - qummik (urmas@qummik)

Spoiler :

PEACE ... But Suspect - He doesn't reply to Diplomacy
Researching = Colonisation in ???
English Military - WEAK
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Past Deals
1500 ... Printing Press + Inca + Gold received for Banking + Aztec
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Trade Options
... nix Technology
... Saltpeter x 1
... Dyes x 0
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Dias' Voyage in Lisbon in Lisbon (1490 AD)
Magellan's Voyage in Lisbon (1511 AD)
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Me ...
... no answer so bugger them.
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Portugal ...
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vs. France - Luthor_Saxburg (tui.galvao@X)

Spoiler :

PEACE ... Secret Alliance - Engaged
Researching Piracy in 6
English Military - WEAK
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Past Deals
1507 ... Banking sent for Magnetism + Gold
1519 ... Naval Ordinance received for Metalurgy + Territory Map (pre 1519)
1520 ... received French Territory Map
1521 ... gifted Colonisation, received French World Map
1522 ... gifted English World Map
1523 ... gifted Mining
1524 ... received French World Map

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Current Trade
1510 ... French Wines received for 3 gpt for 20 Turns
1524 ... English Tobacco gifted for 20 Turns
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Trade Options
... Mining
... Horses x 0
... Tobacco x 1
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Leonardo's Workshop in Paris (1506 AD)
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The Royal Marriage ...
I, Ferric Auris III Queen of England, who is actually a man, but one with a weakness for women's fashion am betrothed.
wonder who will wear the wedding dress me or the 'young, extremely beautiful and wild' French bride, daughter of Roy de France, the King of France.

Kingdoms Alligned
This includes doubling our tech research, trading knowledge cheaply, sharing plans and maps, sharing intelegence of the other teams ... and dividing the new world which will hamper the expansion of the others ... Any extra luxury or strategic resource should be automatically gifted to the other party ... we are engaged after all LOL ... We should swap World Maps too at some stage ...

Regarding our rivals ... I think that we should cease all future technology trade ... and discuss if an opportunity does arise ... I would agree to a veto clause which states that we can trade with any rival ONLY if we both agree.

French Pirate will be named with a W.

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Me ... Nicely Written

Look into my spoiler any time you want ...

How about I give you Mining when you can afford to lose the 3 per gold ... I do use cash to rush buildings ... important to remember is that Tobacco Plantation and other lux specific buildings will get those treasure chests generated ...

Can't wait to go Pirate Hunting ... but you must tell me the names of your ships so i do not take them when I police the seas LOL ... or better still if you do not intend to name them ... just change the spelling.

I may even be able to road for you at some stage.

Cheers
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Me ... Greetings

How is your lovely daughter ... in good health I trust? ... Good ... now to business.

I have sent you the charts of the world as we know it ... I have rushed my research of Mining at a deficit to my economy however all is well as I will concentrate on wealth while awaiting Privateers from you ... I will send it onto you next turn.

All my vessels are now Carracks ... I intend to really go for colonising the new world ... the Dutch are building a road west I must plant a city on a certain recourse rich area very soon. Also I will have my first of many knights to deal with those pesky tribes and to swiftly and safely transport my treasures.

Pleasant expansion

Son In Law to be ... Ferric Auris III
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France ... In 7 turns you can be a pirate ... My Pirate ships name will start with 'W'... need to tell me your 'pirate' code.
Cheers,
Le 'Macho' Roy

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Me ... Greetings Le 'Macho' Roy

How is the little flower, my bride to be?

I cannot build pirates only privateers ... and must be at war to take foreign shipping.

Together we shall control the seas, I will act as your eyes so that you can take the ships of the Dutch, Spain and the Portugese and at the same time I will rid the waters of pirate scum.

Son In Law to be ... Ferric Auris III

PS. I have sent you Mining as most except Dutch have it ... perhaps you could persuade them to research Fortifications in return for giving it early ... they just completed (or traded) Naval Ordinance condition they have to give you 1 gold per turn until they complete the trade (that way they will research faster)

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France ... Thanks ... Thank u for your gift.

I have asked some poor painter to make a portrait of my daughter to send to you. He is an italian name Michael Angel or something ... not a very gifted
artist, but enough for the job. When he's finished you might be able to see all her beatifullness!

I forgot who are not a Pirate type of nation... not too fair, I'd have to say. Specially taking into consideration the 'real' British history during these times...

Cheers,
Le 'Macho' Roy
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Me ... Greetings Le 'Macho' Roy

Hey I look forward to receiving the portrait of your fair and wild daughter (in a spoiler I trust ) ... anyway to business.

Firstly I trust you are aware that St. Mary's City will be expanding her border in 2 turns ... I only mention this as I see you wasting time with a colonist heading west to a gap that will not be there for long.

Secondly have you sent the diplomacy off to the Dutch enticing them to research Fortification in return for Mining.

Pleasant expansion

Son In Law to be ... Ferric Auris III

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France ... Dear Sir (slightly upset tone),

The picture I will send it will be a portrait for your eyes only!!! I trust you will not show it to anyone, in or outside the court!

I know the wine we are sending you is of good quality, but maybe you shouldn't consume so much of it! I have no colonist near St. Mary's city!

As agreed, my planned expansion is as follows:
- NE of Jamestown. You can have all the Area West of Jamestown. I have troops in that area to make sure no barbarians threaten your colonists.
- NW of New Orleans towards the Pacific.

As the North American terrain is starting to be scarce, I'm thinking of expanding to Africa, so that the Portuguese doesn't claim it all for himself. This will mean protecting 3 areas very far apart but there isn't much other options.

Thanks for the Colonization. I'm already building a Tobacco Plantation!!! YES!

I did not send any proposal to the Dutch. May I enquire why don't you propose the deal you mentioned to him?

Cheers,
Le Macho Roy
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Me ... Le Macho Roy

Hmm I must indeed have been indulging the wine too much ... but I'll blame it on a relently deceased, colour blinded advisor.

I thought you were going to talk to the Dutch ... because you mentioned having a good relationship in the past and he has been a bit standoffish lately ... also I have recently (last turn) marched through the territory of a new settlement.

I look forward seeing this Master Angel's work

Sincerely

Ferric Auris III of Britain

Added Later ... If you have a spare settler/colonist in the area ... why don't you grab the area directly north of New Orleans ... much food and a horse ... I have nothing near and would hate for Dutch to get it. In fact the nearest thing is about 8 turns away back in London

And ... I can see a choice island SE of Wiltwyck (Dutch) ... it is a single hill but would be easily defendible ... 2 fish and also a spice resource sourround it. It would be a great Pirate base for harassing Portugese, Spanish as well.
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France ...
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vs. Dutch - von_Clausewitz (clausewitz1bc@X) ... Replaced Aluminium Knight

Spoiler :

PEACE ... Has been Good - But he is expanding into areas I want
Researching ??? in ???
English Military - AVERAGE
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Past Deals
1501 ... Banking sent for Gunpowder + Gold
1518 ... Metallurgy sent for Colonisation
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Trade Options
... Mining
... Tobacco x 1
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Me ... My Pike near Stellenbosch is just moving north ... Please don't be alarmed
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Dutch ...
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Me ...
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Dutch ...
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vs. Natives of the Americas - AI

Spoiler :

Inca
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Military - STRONG
Bank ... 44 55 gold
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Silver x 0
Gold x 0
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English Options
Horse x 0
Iron x 2
Dyes x 0
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Past Deals
1506 ... Aztec Contact sent for World Map +13 Gold Inca Bank
1516 ... World Maps exchanged +33 Gold Inca Bank
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Traded ...


Aztec
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War with Spain
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Military - STRONG
Bank ... 0 1 gold
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nix
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English Options
Horse x 0
Iron x 2
Dyes x 0
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Past Deals
1516 ... World Maps exchanged +Aztec Worker +43 Gold Aztec Bank
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Traded ...


Maya
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Destroyed by Spain in 1505

Notes
* Cities cannot be founded on Forest, Jungle, Swamp, Mountains.
* Explorers disband to 2 Shields
* Treasure is 200 Gold and 1000 Victory Points when returned to Capital.

Settlement Sites
* West of Jamestown ... NorthWest of Norfolk

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On to the Dutch von Clausewitz

 

[von_Clausewitz]

sent to classical

 

[classical_hero]

Spoiler Lurkers only :

Finally I have produced some treasure for my mighty empire to grow. Both were from Tobacco factories. It looks like that the Portuguese have already got some treasure back home, as you can see from the spike down below.

Soon I will get a growth in my VP.

Right now I am at war with the Aztecs. The war has gone very well for me and I have an army as a result of the battles. Naturally I made a knight army since they are the best attacking unit we have. I have built my first Musket and in the pocess I plan to replace the out of date Pikeman with this wonderful unit.

I have a temptation to go for some of the non tradeable techs and get those high culture wonders and improvements. I might try for a cultural victory but most likely it will be via VPs that I will win.

I have an agreement with qummik, my portuguese neighbour to get Piracy from him once he has researched it. I will ask him when he will get Piracy. I will get fortification in one turn by using six specialists and having max tax for this turn.

GPS to the Portuguese King, Qummik.
I have a question about our special rules. Is it allowed to attack those of the same goverment?

 

[qummik]

GPS 1525AD, turn 35.

 

[fe3333au]

Turn 35 - Court of Her Most Catholic Magesty, England ... Year of the Lord - 1525​

Spoiler Lurkers Only :

For Lurkers only ... come on guyz play fair ... Bet you cheat at Patience

Password - 3333

Happenings
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French decline tobacco as they will have soon
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Knowledge Discovered ... nix
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London ... Pike
Dublin ... Colonist
Jamestown ... Temple
St. Mary's City .... Courthouse
Annapolis ... Courthouse
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nix founded


Domestic Information
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Economy - 71 gold +104 per turn
Research - Fortification in xxx turns @ 00% ... then wait and accumulate
Entertainment - 0%
Government - Catholic Monachy
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Resources
Luxuries ... Dyes x 1, Tobacco x 2
Strategic ... Iron x 3, Horses x 1, Saltpeter x 2
Unconnected
Port Royal ... Tobacco x 1
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Current Trade
... Fine French Wine traded for 3gpt ... Turn 20/7 to go ... later for free
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Knowledge Discovered

Spoiler :

1490 - 1500 ... Banking
1501 - 1503 ... Professional Armies, 10% until trade deal established.
1504 - 1504 ... 100% Cash
1505 - 1514 ... Metallurgy
1515 - 1517 ... 100% Cash, waiting for deals to arrive.
1518 - 1522 ... Mining
1523 - 1525 ... 100% Cash, Waiting for deal to arrive

Cities of the EMPIRE

Spoiler :

Annapolis ... 1519 Founded
[T,Ct, - 1pop+4 (0xHappy, 1xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 10/100+2, +3gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+2, Shields = 2/1 ... Marketplace in 25 ... prebuild for Tobacco Plantation
... Sioux tribes nearby !!! someone active in the north ?!!!
... furs, chop
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Williamsburg ... 1520 Founded, Halfway Transit Fortess
[, - 1pop+5 (0xHappy, 1xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 0/10+0, +2gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+0, Shields = 2/1 ... Harbour in 10 ... Courthouse next
... Halfway Terminal
... road, chop, irrigate, mine hills
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London ... 1490 Original Capital
[P,B,G,T,M,L,Ct,W,A,K,U,H,Nav,Bk,Co, - 11pop+2 (2xHappy, 8xContent, 1xUnhappy)
Culture 574/1000+15, +58gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+0, Shields = 10/0 ... Colonist in 1 ... Knight, Privateer next
...
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York ... 1490 Original
[G,T,M,L,Ct,W,A,H,B,Co,Bk, - 7pop+3 (2xHappy, 4xContent, 1xUnhappy)
Culture 218/1000+6, +36gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+1, Shields = 8/0 ... Pike in 1 ... Pike, Colonist, Cathedral, University next
... start chop with 1 slave and worker for Cathedral in 7
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Bristol ... 1490 Original
[G,T,M,L,C,W,H,B,Co,K, - 7pop+2 (2xHappy, 5xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 170/1000+9, +31gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+0, Shields = 8/0 ... Pike in 1 ... Pike, Colonist, Bank, Pike, University next
...
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Plymouth ... 1490 Original
[G,T,M,L,Ct,W,H,B,A, - 6pop+2 (2xHappy, 3xContent, 1xUnhappy)
Culture 144/1000+4, +18gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+0, Shields = 9/0 ... Colosseum in 6 ... Pike, Pike, Bank, Cathedral, University next
...
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Dublin ... 1490 Original
[G,T,H,L,A, - 5pop+5 (2xHappy, 2xContent, 1xUnhappy)
Culture 56/100+4, +11gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+2, Shields = 9/1 ... Pike in 2 ... Colosseum next.
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Jamestown ... 1501 Founded
[Ct,H,T, - 3pop+2 (2xHappy, 1xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 2/10+2, +6gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+2, Shields = 3/0 ... Worker in 2 ... Granary next
...
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Yorktown ... 1505 Founded
[T,H,Ct,B,Tob, - 6pop+1 (2xHappy, 2xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 38/100+2, +18gp (1xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+6, Shields = 10/3 ... Colosseum RUSHED -80gp ... Aquaduct, Cathedral next
... mine hills
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Norfolk ... 1510 Founded Port Royal, 1514 Renamed
[Ct,T, - 2pop+0 (2xHappy, 0xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 6/10+2, +3gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+1, Shields = 4/2 ... Library in 9 ... Marketplace next
... road, irrigate grasslands after mine complete
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Port Royal ... 1514 Founded/Renamed
[Ct,Tob, - 2pop+0 (0xHappy, 2xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 0/10+0, +5gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+4, Shields = 5/3 ... Temple in 1 ... Harbour next
... get roads
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St. Mary's City ... 1517 Founded
[T,Ct, - 2pop+4 (2xHappy, 0xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 10/100+2, +4gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+1, Shields = 1/0 ... Trapper Camp RUSH -40gp
... cut forest over grass, irrigate, mine iron,
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Spoiler City Improvements :

P - Palace
B - Barracks
G - Granary
M - Marketplace
L - Library
Ct - Courthouse
W - Walls
H - Harbour
A - Aqueduct
K - Cathedral
U - University
Nav - Navigation School
Co - Colosseum
Bk - Bank
Pelt - Trapper Camp ... Treasure x 12 turns
Tob - Tobacco Plantation ... Treasure x 8 turns
CP - Colonial Palace
Gem - Gem Mine ... Treasure x 5 turns
Au - Gold Mine ... Treasure x 3 turns
Ag - Silver Mine ... Treasure x 5 turns

Military and other Goodly Folk

Spoiler :

Military - Roll Call
*Mace = Medieval Infantry

Settler ... 0
Colonists ... 4 5
Workers ... 16
Explorers ... 2

Slave Trade and POWs

Spoiler :

Aztec ... 1
Inca
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Dutch
Spanish
French
Portugese
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1516 ... Traded Native Worker from the Aztec

Longbow ... 1
Mace ... 1
Pikeman ... 18 19
Trebuchet ... 2

Chivalry and Horse Tales

Spoiler :

Knight ... 1
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1523 ... Sir Ritter (4/4)

Treasure from the New World

Spoiler :

Effect 200 gold and 1000 Victory Pnts when returned to capital.
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Produced in New World ... 0
Returned to England ... 0
Lost to Hostile Action ... 0
Lost to War ... 0
Captured from Enemy ... 0
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History
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Naval Matters

Spoiler :

Carrack ... 5
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HMCarrack - Piety (Colonist) -> Yorktown
- Built pre-1490, Upgraded 1518
... midsea transfer
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HMCarrack - Hope () -> MidOcean transfer with Charity
- Built pre-1490, Upgraded 1521
... then Williamsburg
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HMCarrack - Faith () -> Yorktown
- Built pre-1490, Upgraded 1522
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HMCarrack - Charity (Worker,Colonist,Sir Ritter,) -> MidOcean transfer Hope then HOME
- Built pre-1490, Upgraded 1521
... Piety MidOcean transfer
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HMCarrack - Avarice (Explorer,Pike) -> Jamestown
- Built 1516,
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History of Combat

Spoiler :

> Naval Action

Spoiler :

1490 - God Bless All Who Sail - HMCv. Hope and HMCv. Faith sail west to the edge of the World.
1493 - Land Lo - Exploration Fleet discovers land !!!
1494 - Claiming New England - English feet step onto the New World
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> Land Warfare

Spoiler :

Worst than the Black Death, We suffer an outbreak of World Peace
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> Barbarian Actions/Encounters/Cleansing

Spoiler :

Scalps ... 12
Camps Cleared ... 6
Englishmen MIA ... 1
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1491 - Irish Situation, Hills of Dublin - Longbow vs. Irish Longbow = RIP.
1492 - Irish Hill Camp - Longbow vs. Irish Archer = RIP.
1496 - Irish Quelled - Longbow vs. Irish Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp.
1498 - New World Encounter - Mace vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP.
1500 - Millenium Clearing - Mace vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp.
1502 - Cherokee Camp - Mace vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP.
1503 - Cherokee Bonfire - Mace vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp.
1504 - Lost Explorer - Explorer = RIP, suspect hostile Natives with a taste for English meat !!!
1506 - New Tribe - Mace vs. Seminol Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp.
1508 - Field Promotion - Mace = Veteran vs. Seminole Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp
1511 - Better Bow Skills - Longbow vs. Illinios Archer = RIP
1513 - Camp Cleared - Longbow vs. Illinios Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp
1515 - Clearing Norfolk Heights - Pike vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP
15xx -
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Dipomacy

vs. Spain - classical_hero (classical@X)

Spoiler :

PEACE ... But don't Trust !!!
Researching ... ?? in ?
English Military - WEAK
War with Aztecs
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Past Deals
... nix
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Trade options
... nix Technology
... nix Furs x 0
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Copernicus' Observatory in Madrid (1509 AD)
Sistine Chapel in Madrid (1520 AD)
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Spain 1525 ... Do you have anything to trade for Fortification?
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Me 1525 ... Sadly I have nothing for you are indeed the master of scientific knowledge in our world. How goes your war with the feathered ones?
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vs. Portugal - qummik (urmas@qummik)

Spoiler :

PEACE ... But Suspect - He doesn't reply to Diplomacy
Researching ... ?? in ?
English Military - WEAK
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Past Deals
1500 ... Printing Press + Inca + Gold received for Banking + Aztec
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Trade Options
... nix Technology
... Saltpeter x 1
... Furs x 0
... Dyes x 0
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Dias' Voyage in Lisbon in Lisbon (1490 AD)
Magellan's Voyage in Lisbon (1511 AD)
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Me ...
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Portugal ...
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vs. France - Luthor_Saxburg (tui.galvao@X)

Spoiler :

PEACE ... Secret Alliance - Engaged
Researching ... Piracy in 5
English Military - WEAK
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Past Deals
1507 ... Banking sent for Magnetism + Gold
1519 ... Naval Ordinance received for Metalurgy + Territory Map (pre 1519)
1520 ... received French Territory Map
1521 ... gifted Colonisation, received French World Map
1522 ... gifted English World Map
1523 ... gifted Mining
1524 ... received French World Map
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Current Trade
1510 ... French Wines received for 3 gpt for 20 Turns
1524 ... English Tobacco gifted for 20 Turns not wanted
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Trade Options
... nix Technology
... Horses x 0
... Tobacco x 1
... Furs x 0
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Leonardo's Workshop in Paris (1506 AD)
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The Royal Marriage ...
I, Ferric Auris III Queen of England, who is actually a man, but one with a weakness for women's fashion am betrothed.
wonder who will wear the wedding dress me or the 'young, extremely beautiful and wild' French bride, daughter of Roy de France, the King of France.

Kingdoms Alligned
This includes doubling our tech research, trading knowledge cheaply, sharing plans and maps, sharing intelegence of the other teams ... and dividing the new world which will hamper the expansion of the others ... Any extra luxury or strategic resource should be automatically gifted to the other party ... we are engaged after all LOL ... We should swap World Maps too at some stage ...

Regarding our rivals ... I think that we should cease all future technology trade ... and discuss if an opportunity does arise ... I would agree to a veto clause which states that we can trade with any rival ONLY if we both agree.

French Pirates will be named with a W.
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Me 1522 ... <snip>
PS. I have sent you Mining as most except Dutch have it ... perhaps you could persuade them to research Fortifications in return for giving it early ... they just completed (or traded) Naval Ordinance condition they have to give you 1 gold per turn until they complete the trade (that way they will research faster)
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Me 1523 ... Greetings Le 'Macho' Roy

Hey I look forward to receiving the portrait of your fair and wild daughter (in a spoiler I trust ) ... anyway to business.

<snip>

Secondly have you sent the diplomacy off to the Dutch enticing them to research Fortification in return for Mining.

Pleasant expansion

Son In Law to be ... Ferric Auris III
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France 1524 ... Dear Sir (slightly upset tone),

The picture I will send it will be a portrait for your eyes only!!! I trust you will not show it to anyone, in or outside the court!

<snip>

As agreed, my planned expansion is as follows:
- NE of Jamestown. You can have all the Area West of Jamestown. I have troops in that area to make sure no barbarians threaten your colonists.
- NW of New Orleans towards the Pacific.

As the North American terrain is starting to be scarce, I'm thinking of expanding to Africa, so that the Portuguese doesn't claim it all for himself. This will mean protecting 3 areas very far apart but there isn't much other options.

Thanks for the Colonization. I'm already building a Tobacco Plantation!!! YES!

I did not send any proposal to the Dutch. May I enquire why don't you propose the deal you mentioned to him?

Cheers,
Le Macho Roy
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Me 1524 ... Le Macho Roy

<snip>

I thought you were going to talk to the Dutch ... because you mentioned having a good relationship in the past and he has been a bit standoffish lately ... also I have recently (last turn) marched through the territory of a new settlement.

I look forward seeing this Master Angel's work

Sincerely

Ferric Auris III of Britain

Added Later ... If you have a spare settler/colonist in the area ... why don't you grab the area directly north of New Orleans ... much food and a horse ... I have nothing near and would hate for Dutch to get it. In fact the nearest thing is about 8 turns away back in London

And ... I can see a choice island SE of Wiltwyck (Dutch) ... it is a single hill but would be easily defendible ... 2 fish and also a spice resource sourround it. It would be a great Pirate base for harassing Portugese, Spanish as well.
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France 1525 ... Some fast notes:
1. I have tobacco. Not connected yet but will be.
2. 5 turns to Piracy.
3. I have 1 colonizer going to Africa.
4. Aztecs only have one city. Are there VP's for finishing off a nation?

We should think about medium-term plans. Attack some nation or just piracy and counter-pirating for now?
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Me 1525 ... I will hook up another Furs soon and send to you.
Any response from Dutch about them researching Fortification?
I plan to settle the far north and create a wall of defending cities which will stop others getting up there.

Aztecs will be taken by Spain soon ... if you can take the city it would be good.
Not sure about extra VP to kill off a civilization ... perhaps post the question, better from you as you are nearby.
Medium strategy, I like the idea of expansion and consolidation ... in the interim, use your pirates to sink ships (Spain and Portugal are threats) and I'll rid the sea of other pirates ... start no pirate action until there are others who have that technology or you will be suspected.

ADDED ... Mention again a good Pirate Base for France is a choice island SE of Wiltwyck (Dutch)
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French 1525 ... For the moment no because I dont have any nearby coloner available. On the next furnace of colonizers I'll try to get it.
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Me 1525 ... no probs ... it is on the way to Africa btw ... Let me know if you want any screenies posted in the spoiler ... you can also
ask me questions about my game play (best way for me to learn).

Also let me know if you see any others wandering around the north ... I had
a bunch of Sioux near a city which have 'disappeared'

Great game ... I'm getting into it ... Cheers.
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Me 1525 ... sent copy of Spanish Correspondence.
Received and sent correspondence with Spain ... trying to get intel from them ... I fear they are too strong so have no intention in having dealings with him ... do you agree or think otherwise.
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French ...
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Me ...

vs. Dutch - von_Clausewitz (clausewitz1bc@X) ... Replaced Aluminium Knight

Spoiler :

PEACE ... Has been Good - But he is expanding into areas I want
Researching ... ?? in ?
English Military - AVERAGE
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Past Deals
1501 ... Banking sent for Gunpowder + Gold
1518 ... Metallurgy sent for Colonisation
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Trade Options
... Mining
... Tobacco x 1
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Me 1524 ... My Pike near Stellenbosch is just moving north ... Please don't be alarmed
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Dutch ...
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vs. Natives of the Americas - AI

Spoiler :

Inca
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English Military - STRONG
Bank ... 55 90 gold
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Silver x 0
Gold x 0
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English Options
Horse x 0
Iron x 2
Furs x 0
Dyes x 0
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Past Deals
1506 ... Aztec Contact sent for World Map +13 Gold Inca Bank
1516 ... World Maps exchanged +33 Gold Inca Bank
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Traded ...


Aztec
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War with Spain
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English Military - STRONG
Bank ... 1 2 gold
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nix
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English Options
Horse x 0
Iron x 2
Dyes x 0
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Past Deals
1516 ... World Maps exchanged +Aztec Worker +43 Gold Aztec Bank
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Traded ...


Maya
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Destroyed by Spain in 1505

Notes
* Cities cannot be founded on Forest, Jungle, Swamp, Mountains.
* Explorers disband to 2 Shields
* Treasure is 200 Gold and 1000 Victory Points when returned to Capital.

Settlement Sites
* West of Jamestown ... NorthWest of Norfolk

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On to the Dutch von Clausewitz

 

[von_Clausewitz]

sent to classical

 

[classical_hero]

Spoiler Lurker's only :

Excellent news. On the discovery of Foritifcation we got ourselves a SGL.

We have made peace with the Aztecs.

Onto the Portuguese. GPS

 

[qummik]

GPS 1526AD, turn 36.

 

[Luthor_Saxburg]

France decides to give a hand at the Spanish and declares war on the Aztecs. Texcoco is taken without much difficulty. This immediately ends the war... what a short war!

I have a question about our special rules. Is it allowed to attack those of the same goverment?

I think so.


May I propose that Qummik puts the rules on post #1?

.

 

[fe3333au]

Turn 36 - Court of Her Most Catholic Magesty, England ... Year of the Lord - 1526​

Spoiler Lurkers Only :

For Lurkers only ... come on guyz play fair ... Bet you cheat at Patience

Password - 3333

Happenings
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French sends World Map
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Knowledge Discovered ... nix
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London ... Colonist
York ... Pike
Bristol ... Pike
Yorktown .... Colosseum
Port Royal ... Temple
St. Mary's City ... Trapper Camp
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nix founded


Domestic Information
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Economy - 7 gold +100 per turn
Research - Fortification in xxx turns @ 00% ... then wait and accumulate
Entertainment - 0%
Government - Catholic Monachy
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Resources
Luxuries ... Dyes x 1, Tobacco x 2 1, Furs x 1
Strategic ... Iron x 3, Horses x 1, Saltpeter x 2 3
Unconnected
Port Royal ... Tobacco x 1
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Current Trade
... Fine French Wine traded for 3gpt ... Turn 20/6 to go ... later for free
... English Tobacco to France ... Turn 20/20 ... it will cease as he has smoke
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Knowledge Discovered

Spoiler :

1490 - 1500 ... Banking
1501 - 1503 ... Professional Armies, 10% until trade deal established.
1504 - 1504 ... 100% Cash
1505 - 1514 ... Metallurgy
1515 - 1517 ... 100% Cash, waiting for deals to arrive.
1518 - 1522 ... Mining
1523 - 1526 ... 100% Cash, Waiting for deal to arrive

Cities of the EMPIRE

Spoiler :

Annapolis ... 1519 Founded
[T,Ct, - 1pop+3 (0xHappy, 1xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 12/100+2, +3gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+2, Shields = 2/1 ... Marketplace in 24 ... prebuild for Tobacco Plantation
... furs, chop
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Williamsburg ... 1520 Founded, Halfway Transit Fortess
[, - 1pop+4 (0xHappy, 1xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 0/10+0, +2gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+0, Shields = 2/1 ... Harbour in 9 ... Courthouse next
... road, chop, irrigate, mine hills
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London ... 1490 Original Capital
[P,B,G,T,M,L,Ct,W,A,K,U,H,Nav,Bk,Co, - 11pop+1 (2xHappy, 8xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 589/1000+15, +52gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+0, Shields = 13/0 ... Knight in 3 ... Knight, Privateer next
...
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York ... 1490 Original
[G,T,M,L,Ct,W,A,H,B,Co,Bk, - 7pop+2 (2xHappy, 5xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 224/1000+6, +40gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+1, Shields = 9/0 ... Pike in 2 ... Cathedral, University next
... start chop with 1 slave and worker for Cathedral in 6
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Bristol ... 1490 Original
[G,T,M,L,C,W,H,B,Co,K, - 7pop+1 (2xHappy, 5xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 179/1000+9, +31gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+0, Shields = 8/0 ... Pike in 2 ... Colonist, Bank, Pike, University next
...
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Plymouth ... 1490 Original
[G,T,M,L,Ct,W,H,B,A, - 6pop+1 (2xHappy, 3xContent, 1xUnhappy)
Culture 148/1000+4, +22gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+0, Shields = 9/0 ... Colosseum RUSHED -168gp ... Pike, Pike, Bank, Cathedral, University next
...
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Dublin ... 1490 Original
[G,T,H,L,A, - 5pop+2 (2xHappy, 2xContent, 1xUnhappy)
Culture 60/100+4, +11gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+2, Shields = 7/1 ... Pike in 1 ... Colosseum next.
...
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Jamestown ... 1501 Founded
[Ct,H,T, - 3pop+1 (2xHappy, 1xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 4/10+2, +6gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+2, Shields = 3/0 ... Worker in 1 ... Granary next
...
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Yorktown ... 1505 Founded
[T,H,Ct,B,Tob,Co, - 6pop+1 (2xHappy, 3xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 42/100+4, +17gp (1xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+6, Shields = 10/3 ... Aquaduct in 5 ... Cathedral next
... mine hills
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Norfolk ... 1510 Founded Port Royal, 1514 Renamed
[Ct,T, - 2pop+0 (2xHappy, 0xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 8/10+2, +3gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+1, Shields = 4/2 ... Library in 8 ... Marketplace next
... road, irrigate grasslands after mine complete
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Port Royal ... 1514 Founded/Renamed
[Ct,Tob,T, - 2pop+0 (0xHappy, 2xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 2/10+2, +6gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+4, Shields = 5/3 ... Harbour in 6 ... Marketplace next
... get roads
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St. Mary's City ... 1517 Founded
[T,Ct,Pelt, - 2pop+5 (2xHappy, 0xContent, 0xUnhappy)
Culture 12/100+2, +4gp (0xTaxer), +0r&d (0xSage),
Corruption+2, Shields = 3/1 ... Worker in 2 ... Marketplace next
... cut forest over grass, irrigate, mine iron,
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Spoiler City Improvements :

P - Palace
B - Barracks
G - Granary
M - Marketplace
L - Library
Ct - Courthouse
W - Walls
H - Harbour
A - Aqueduct
K - Cathedral
U - University
Nav - Navigation School
Co - Colosseum
Bk - Bank
Pelt - Trapper Camp ... Treasure x 12 turns
Tob - Tobacco Plantation ... Treasure x 8 turns
CP - Colonial Palace
Gem - Gem Mine ... Treasure x 5 turns
Au - Gold Mine ... Treasure x 3 turns
Ag - Silver Mine ... Treasure x 5 turns

Military and other Goodly Folk

Spoiler :

Military - Roll Call
*Mace = Medieval Infantry

Settler ... 0
Colonists ... 5 6
Workers ... 16
Explorers ... 2

Slave Trade and POWs

Spoiler :

Aztec ... 1
Inca
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Dutch
Spanish
French
Portugese
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1516 ... Traded Native Worker from the Aztec

Longbow ... 1
Mace ... 1
Pikeman ... 19 21
Trebuchet ... 2

Chivalry and Horse Tales

Spoiler :

Knight ... 1
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1523 ... Sir Ritter (4/4)

Treasure from the New World

Spoiler :

Effect 200 gold and 1000 Victory Pnts when returned to capital.
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Produced in New World ... 0
Returned to England ... 0
Lost to Hostile Action ... 0
Lost to War ... 0
Captured from Enemy ... 0
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History
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Naval Matters

Spoiler :

Carrack ... 5
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HMCarrack - Piety () -> Yorktown -> Midsea Transfer Point
- Built pre-1490, Upgraded 1518
... unloaded Colonist
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HMCarrack - Hope (Worker,Colonist,Sir Ritter) -> Jamestown
- Built pre-1490, Upgraded 1521
... then Williamsburg
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HMCarrack - Faith () -> Yorktown
- Built pre-1490, Upgraded 1522
...
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HMCarrack - Charity () -> MidOcean transfer Hope then HOME
- Built pre-1490, Upgraded 1521
... Hope MidOcean transfer
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HMCarrack - Avarice (Explorer,Pike) -> Jamestown
- Built 1516,
...
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History of Combat

Spoiler :

> Naval Action

Spoiler :

1490 - God Bless All Who Sail - HMCv. Hope and HMCv. Faith sail west to the edge of the World.
1493 - Land Lo - Exploration Fleet discovers land !!!
1494 - Claiming New England - English feet step onto the New World
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> Land Warfare

Spoiler :

Worst than the Black Death, We suffer an outbreak of World Peace
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> Barbarian Actions/Encounters/Cleansing

Spoiler :

Scalps ... 12
Camps Cleared ... 6
Englishmen MIA ... 1
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1491 - Irish Situation, Hills of Dublin - Longbow vs. Irish Longbow = RIP.
1492 - Irish Hill Camp - Longbow vs. Irish Archer = RIP.
1496 - Irish Quelled - Longbow vs. Irish Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp.
1498 - New World Encounter - Mace vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP.
1500 - Millenium Clearing - Mace vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp.
1502 - Cherokee Camp - Mace vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP.
1503 - Cherokee Bonfire - Mace vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp.
1504 - Lost Explorer - Explorer = RIP, suspect hostile Natives with a taste for English meat !!!
1506 - New Tribe - Mace vs. Seminol Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp.
1508 - Field Promotion - Mace = Veteran vs. Seminole Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp
1511 - Better Bow Skills - Longbow vs. Illinios Archer = RIP
1513 - Camp Cleared - Longbow vs. Illinios Archer = RIP, Camp +25gp
1515 - Clearing Norfolk Heights - Pike vs. Cherokee Archer = RIP
15xx -
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Dipomacy

vs. Spain - classical_hero (classical@X)

Spoiler :

PEACE ... But don't Trust !!!
Researching ... ?? in ?
English Military - WEAK
War with Aztecs
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Past Deals
... nix
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Trade options
... nix Technology
... Furs x 0
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Copernicus' Observatory in Madrid (1509 AD)
Sistine Chapel in Madrid (1520 AD)
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Spain 1525 ... Do you have anything to trade for Fortification?
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Me 1525 ... Sadly I have nothing for you are indeed the master of scientific knowledge in our world. How goes your war with the feathered ones?
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vs. Portugal - qummik (urmas@qummik)

Spoiler :

PEACE ... But Suspect - He doesn't reply to Diplomacy
Researching ... ?? in ?
English Military - WEAK
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Past Deals
1500 ... Printing Press + Inca + Gold received for Banking + Aztec
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Trade Options
... nix Technology
... Saltpeter x 1 2
... Furs x 0
... Dyes x 0
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Dias' Voyage in Lisbon in Lisbon (1490 AD)
Magellan's Voyage in Lisbon (1511 AD)
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Me ...
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Portugal ...
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vs. France - Luthor_Saxburg (tui.galvao@X)

Spoiler :

PEACE ... Secret Alliance - Engaged
Researching ... Piracy in 5
English Military - WEAK
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Past Deals
1507 ... Banking sent for Magnetism + Gold
1519 ... Naval Ordinance received for Metalurgy + Territory Map (pre 1519)
1520 ... received French Territory Map
1521 ... gifted Colonisation, received French World Map
1522 ... gifted English World Map
1523 ... gifted Mining
1524 ... received French World Map
1526 ... recieved French World Map
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Current Trade
1510 ... French Wines received for 3 gpt for 20 Turns
1526 ... English Tobacco gifted for 20 Turns
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Trade Options
... nix Technology
... Horses x 0
... Tobacco x 1
... Furs x 0
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Leonardo's Workshop in Paris (1506 AD)
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The Royal Marriage ...
I, Ferric Auris III Queen of England, who is actually a man, but one with a weakness for women's fashion am betrothed.
wonder who will wear the wedding dress me or the 'young, extremely beautiful and wild' French bride, daughter of Roy de France, the King of France.

Kingdoms Alligned
This includes doubling our tech research, trading knowledge cheaply, sharing plans and maps, sharing intelegence of the other teams ... and dividing the new world which will hamper the expansion of the others ... Any extra luxury or strategic resource should be automatically gifted to the other party ... we are engaged after all LOL ... We should swap World Maps too at some stage ...

Regarding our rivals ... I think that we should cease all future technology trade ... and discuss if an opportunity does arise ... I would agree to a veto clause which states that we can trade with any rival ONLY if we both agree.

French Pirates will be named with a W.
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Me 1522 ... <snip>
PS. I have sent you Mining as most except Dutch have it ... perhaps you could persuade them to research Fortifications in return for giving it early ... they just completed (or traded) Naval Ordinance condition they have to give you 1 gold per turn until they complete the trade (that way they will research faster)
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Me 1523 ... Greetings Le 'Macho' Roy

Hey I look forward to receiving the portrait of your fair and wild daughter (in a spoiler I trust ) ... anyway to business.

<snip>

Secondly have you sent the diplomacy off to the Dutch enticing them to research Fortification in return for Mining.

Pleasant expansion

Son In Law to be ... Ferric Auris III
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France 1524 ... Dear Sir (slightly upset tone),

The picture I will send it will be a portrait for your eyes only!!! I trust you will not show it to anyone, in or outside the court!

<snip>

As agreed, my planned expansion is as follows:
- NE of Jamestown. You can have all the Area West of Jamestown. I have troops in that area to make sure no barbarians threaten your colonists.
- NW of New Orleans towards the Pacific.

As the North American terrain is starting to be scarce, I'm thinking of expanding to Africa, so that the Portuguese doesn't claim it all for himself. This will mean protecting 3 areas very far apart but there isn't much other options.

Thanks for the Colonization. I'm already building a Tobacco Plantation!!! YES!

I did not send any proposal to the Dutch. May I enquire why don't you propose the deal you mentioned to him?

Cheers,
Le Macho Roy
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Me 1524 ... Le Macho Roy

<snip>

I thought you were going to talk to the Dutch ... because you mentioned having a good relationship in the past and he has been a bit standoffish lately ... also I have recently (last turn) marched through the territory of a new settlement.

I look forward seeing this Master Angel's work

Sincerely

Ferric Auris III of Britain

Added Later ... If you have a spare settler/colonist in the area ... why don't you grab the area directly north of New Orleans ... much food and a horse ... I have nothing near and would hate for Dutch to get it. In fact the nearest thing is about 8 turns away back in London

And ... I can see a choice island SE of Wiltwyck (Dutch) ... it is a single hill but would be easily defendible ... 2 fish and also a spice resource sourround it. It would be a great Pirate base for harassing Portugese, Spanish as well.
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France 1525 ... Some fast notes:
1. I have tobacco. Not connected yet but will be.
2. 5 turns to Piracy.
3. I have 1 colonizer going to Africa.
4. Aztecs only have one city. Are there VP's for finishing off a nation?

We should think about medium-term plans. Attack some nation or just piracy and counter-pirating for now?
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Me 1525 ... I will hook up another Furs soon and send to you.
Any response from Dutch about them researching Fortification?
I plan to settle the far north and create a wall of defending cities which will stop others getting up there.

Aztecs will be taken by Spain soon ... if you can take the city it would be good.
Not sure about extra VP to kill off a civilization ... perhaps post the question, better from you as you are nearby.
Medium strategy, I like the idea of expansion and consolidation ... in the interim, use your pirates to sink ships (Spain and Portugal are threats) and I'll rid the sea of other pirates ... start no pirate action until there are others who have that technology or you will be suspected.

ADDED ... Mention again a good Pirate Base for France is a choice island SE of Wiltwyck (Dutch)
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French 1525 ... For the moment no because I dont have any nearby coloner available. On the next furnace of colonizers I'll try to get it.
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Me 1525 ... no probs ... it is on the way to Africa btw ... Let me know if you want any screenies posted in the spoiler ... you can also ask me questions about my game play (best way for me to learn).

Also let me know if you see any others wandering around the north ... I had a bunch of Sioux near a city which have 'disappeared'

Great game ... I'm getting into it ... Cheers.
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Me 1525 ... sent copy of Spanish Correspondence.
Received and sent correspondence with Spain ... trying to get intel from them ... I fear they are too strong so have no intention in having dealings with him ... do you agree or think otherwise.
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French 1526 ... 1. I have tobacco. I've to reject again your tobacco offer but I think I screwed up.
2. Spain also asked me the same question. If he accepts to sell fortification for something else than another tech could be interesting. Go for it.
3. I have 1 explorer in S. America to try and reduce the uncharted parts of the world.
4. Gained 210 VP's for the war with the Aztecs.

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Me 1526 ... If you look in spoilers under the rivals, I have noted what can be traded with each ... at the moment we having no tech that Spain doesn't ... but as soon as we do enter next age I'm sure that combined, we will rectify this situation.
Spain is our greatest threat ... Classical is a good player ... Congrats with Aztecs destruction ... that will hinder the Spanish LOL
I have offered the Dutch the Mining now for Fortification deal (see Spoiler)
You have accepted Tobacco, but I suspect that it will be nulled next turn since you have your own source.
Portugal has no Saltpeter, should I offer a trade to him ???
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French 1526 ... Hi.
We'll need to decide if we go for Counter-Reform or the Protestant way.
Saltpepper to Portugal? I would leave them without ... easier to attack if it cames to that.
Spain has an Army!

... I think he's planning to attack someone... I think it's either Portugal or me!
Unfortunately the tobacco won't be anulled once I get the trade going.
Also, what to research once we go the next stage? I was thinking of going to the tech that gives
Hospitals.

Cheers
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Me 1526 ... Wow an Army ... Damn he is a very dangerous player ... and 3 Knights ... I only have 1 so far.

Regarding Catholic vs. Protestant ... I don't know yet .. havn't checked out the benefits of each ... although from a purely personal perspective (out of game) if I had to choose ... it would be the latter.

Regarding techs ... I will research something else ... something with a wonder (I do not have one built yet) .. however will city increase be a good benefit if we are at war??

I agree with not assisting Portugal ... yet
Reasons
1. without Saltpeter, Spain may see him as an easier target than you.
2. If he goes for you, we could offer Saltpeter in return for attacking Spain.
3. If he goes for Portugal, we could offer Saltpeter so he is not too easy a target.

Cheers

vs. Dutch - von_Clausewitz (clausewitz1bc@X) ... Replaced Aluminium Knight

Spoiler :

PEACE ... Has been Good - But he is expanding into areas I want
Researching ... ?? in ?
English Military - AVERAGE
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Past Deals
1501 ... Banking sent for Gunpowder + Gold
1518 ... Metallurgy sent for Colonisation
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Trade Options
... Mining
... Tobacco x 1
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Me 1526 ... Hail to thee to my friend from the land of Tulips, Dykes and cute wooden shoes.

I would like to offer you a deal ... I offer you Mining now in return for you supplying me with the art of Fortification. You will have the benefis now but must swap to reasearching forts. I can even throw in Tobacco when I have an extra source connected, but for that you must research at the fastest rate you are able which will not place your economy in deficit.

What say you ???
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Dutch 1526 ... A small number of obstacles. The first being that my own alchemists have just finished mining. Another being that I have a source of Tobacco that I just need to connect.

It would take 9 turns at full speed to research fortifications.
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Me 1526 ... No Worries ... Thanks
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vs. Natives of the Americas - AI

Spoiler :

Inca
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English Military - STRONG
Bank ... 90 100 gold
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Silver x 0
Gold x 0
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English Options
Horse x 0
Iron x 2
Furs x 0
Dyes x 0
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Past Deals
1506 ... Aztec Contact sent for World Map +13 Gold Inca Bank
1516 ... World Maps exchanged +33 Gold Inca Bank
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Traded ...


Aztec
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Destroyed by France in 1526
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Past Deals
1516 ... World Maps exchanged +Aztec Worker +43 Gold Aztec Bank
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Traded ...


Maya
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Destroyed by Spain in 1505

Notes
* Cities cannot be founded on Forest, Jungle, Swamp, Mountains.
* Explorers disband to 2 Shields
* Treasure is 200 Gold and 1000 Victory Points when returned to Capital.

Settlement Sites
* West of Jamestown ... NorthWest of Norfolk

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@Classical ... yes we can attack anyone, the special rules apply to the change in religion from Catholic to Protestant.

On to the Dutch von Clausewitz

 

[qummik]

*** Special Rules ***
Special rules : this PBEM will have the following rules so by choosing to be part of it, you promise to abide by them.

- Europe : no war can be raged on the European territory. If you are at war with another power, you must keep your fight in the colonies, no land battle allowed in Europe (naval battles are of course authorized around Europe, including Gibraltar).
- Religion : If a country research protestantism while another chooses the counter-reformation then these countries should declare war on one another (whether you actually fight is another issue but no trade, no agreement anyway).
- Natives and Techs : forbid tech-trading with Natives, at least from a certain tech and up (before gunpowder for instance or even earlier)

Anything else?

 

[classical_hero]

Don't forget that we must either go for Protestantism or Counter Reformation. I mention this since I will amke it known that I will be researching Counter Reformation when I get to it. Also should we make both Counter Reformation and Protestantism as techs that we cannot trade to each other.

 

[Luthor_Saxburg]

- Natives and Techs : forbid tech-trading with Natives, at least from a certain tech and up (before gunpowder for instance or even earlier)

Later on we decided not to allow ANY trade with the AI civs

 

[qummik]

Don't forget that we must either go for Protestantism or Counter Reformation. I mention this since I will amke it known that I will be researching Counter Reformation when I get to it. Also should we make both Counter Reformation and Protestantism as techs that we cannot trade to each other.

So I can't stay Catholic to the end?

no war can be raged on the European territory.

Does this include the islands I had in the beginning of the game?

 

[Luthor_Saxburg]

So I can't stay Catholic to the end?

If you go for the counter-reform tech you must remain Catholic.

This 'Religious' rules means that we can't (ever) research Protestantism AND Counter Reformation? So we can not (later) change our minds? Once it's choosen it's choosen?

I guess nations should announce when they start researching one or the other.

 

[von_Clausewitz]

sent to classical

and i thought the whole thing about the religions only dealt with actually changing the 'government' type not researching the tech for them.

 

[fe3333au]

So players who are Catholic cannot befriend and assist a Protestant?

No trading of techs, resources, maps, etc. ???

Can they make peace?