Capital Punishment, is it OK or not?

[.Shane.]

Enact it for CEOs who commit white collar crime.

 

[Zack]

What of the family and friends of the person who is executed?

Execute them.

 

[GhostWriter16]

What of the family and friends of the person who is executed?

They don't own the man we executed. Nor does he own them. He pays with his own life.

 

[Takhisis]

That is, assuming we haven't put into place your ridiculous scheme for selling morose debtors into slavery.

 

[markantony]

They don't own the man we executed. Nor does he own them. He pays with his own life.

So the executed persons children, siblings and parents have to suffer for his actions?

 

[dIZZyBlIZZy]

So the executed persons children, siblings and parents have to suffer for his actions?

At the risk of making a bad inference, you make it sound like those children do not suffer from him being in prison to begin with. GP is allowed 2 visits per month, Seg gets 1 (while annex is allowed visitation every week, it's a different argument because they are all within 3 years of release eligible). When you only get 4-8 hours a month with your child, that child suffers for your actions. I know that that is a far cry from never again, your words seem to state a problem less with criminal punishment and more with crime prevention.

 

[Midgard Eagle]

Could people please stop the ridiculous implication that if we can't have death sentence, we shouldn't have prison either? Seriously, it's getting very tiring.

 

[imperialman]

Could people please stop the ridiculous implication that if we can't have death sentence, we shouldn't have prison either? Seriously, it's getting very tiring.

agreed!

 

[Midgard Eagle]

"I think thieves should have their hands cut off!"
"That is an outrageous and barbaric form of punishment!"
"Well, prison and fines are punishments, too, guess we should just let them go free, then, right?"

 

[JollyRoger]

"I think the death penalty is a good way to deter crime"
"Then you don't mind if I lethally inject you?"
"But I haven't committed a crime"
"And this is the most fool proof way of assuring that you don't"

 

[Flying Pig]

"I think the death penalty is a good way to deter crime"
"Then you don't mind if I lethally inject you?"
"But I haven't committed a crime"
"And this is the most fool proof way of assuring that you don't"

Spoken like a true lawyer. In fact, I'm calling you out on that one - you must be fishing for a reaction.

 

[JollyRoger]

Spoken like a true lawyer. In fact, I'm calling you out on that one - you must be fishing for a reaction.

It would be tragic if someone we didn't lethally inject went on a crime spree. We know beyond a reasonable doubt that crime sprees will occur if we do not take aggressive preventive measures.

 

[GhostWriter16]

Could people please stop the ridiculous implication that if we can't have death sentence, we shouldn't have prison either? Seriously, it's getting very tiring.

For the nth time, the issue isn't that we shouldn't have prison if we don't have the DP, its that that particular argument (That the family suffers for his actions) doesn't hold water, as they "Suffer for his actions" if he gets locked up too.

If other people indirectly get punished for what you do, well, that's life.

 

[JollyRoger]

For the nth time, the issue isn't that we shouldn't have prison if we don't have the DP, its that that particular argument (That the family suffers for his actions) doesn't hold water, as they "Suffer for his actions" if he gets locked up too.

They suffer more if he gets killed rather than if he is merely locked up.

 

[Midgard Eagle]

For the nth time, the issue isn't that we shouldn't have prison if we don't have the DP, its that that particular argument (That the family suffers for his actions) doesn't hold water, as they "Suffer for his actions" if he gets locked up too.

The same way the perp also suffers if he's locked up. Stop this ridiculous argument already.

Me and JR: "You punched that guy and nearly broke his nose! Was that really neccessary?!"
Dom3000: "It would've hurt if I had slapped, too, so what's the big deal?"

If other people indirectly get punished for what you do, well, that's life.

Still firmly upholding your status as one of the most compassionate people I have ever met. Between your ravings and your Confederate flag, you really make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

 

[markantony]

(That the family suffers for his actions) doesn't hold water, as they "Suffer for his actions" if he gets locked up too.

They may also suffer is he does not get caught at all, what is your point?

 

[markantony]

At the risk of making a bad inference, you make it sound like those children do not suffer from him being in prison to begin with. GP is allowed 2 visits per month, Seg gets 1 (while annex is allowed visitation every week, it's a different argument because they are all within 3 years of release eligible). When you only get 4-8 hours a month with your child, that child suffers for your actions. I know that that is a far cry from never again, your words seem to state a problem less with criminal punishment and more with crime prevention.

Well no. But I would suggest that the suffering caused by the death of a parent or child is less than the pain caused by not seeing them a great deal.

For example, I only really see my brother a couple of times a month. One of us being in prison would not make that much difference to the other. One of us being dead would make a great deal difference to the other.