Capto Iugulum: Empires and Nations
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OOC: In my opinion, we need to settle China and Italy before we move on, as well as France inasmuch as it isn't already settled. China is particularly important though. I also think that we should not move on as soon as we have settled those two areas, because I think there should be room for the possibility of whatever nations are unified in a few years time actually fighting each other or something; say, if Russia unites, for instance, what's to say that, left to their own devices, they wouldn't spend the 1860s fighting and defeating the Poles, for example? I can think of several similar situations and I think it is important that there should be at least a few years after the end of the current wars before we move on. I think that we certainly shouldn't move before 1860, anyhow.
Grandkhan
Telvanni Master Wizard
I kinda would like this to go for a while longer, I'd like to see us go through French, Russian and German nationalism. It'd be interesting, and would probably define the conflicts of the 20th Century as well (think the Franco-Prussian war and the seizure of Alsace Lorraine contributing to WW1).
Well, I'm going to reiterate something. 90% of an NES's success ultimately comes down to whether or not the moderator actually has interest in the NES's progression. While I still possess enough interest to keep this going in the mean time, the amount of interest is quite definitely waning. Now to address some concerns. There WILL be a mechanic in orders to allow for Boring Time wars of aggression. Depending on how I feel, I may even allow for the actual tactical undertaking of wars in that span, assuming that the players involved both have the time to do so.
I have no doubt that players can continue to make things interesting for themselves in this particular phase of history, and that things will move unexpectedly. That does not change my longing for the days of tanks, planes, and total war. For the sake of continuing Capto Iugulum overall, as a NES, it'll be best if my plan of evaluations goes into effect with 1855, maybe sooner if a good stopping point emerges unexpectedly. If you're unconvinced that my committment to the 19th century is waning, take this into mind: Every time I start thinking about this NES, my thoughts are almost always, "This will be so much cooler in the 20th century."
To: Empire of Spain
From: Pope Leo XIII
We thank you for finally undertaking your responsibilities as a Catholic ruler and aiding in the restoration of our rightful secular realm. We hope that your involvement will end the specters of the destabilizing influences of liberalism and nationalism.
To: Empire of Spain
From: Austria
We are greatful for your support, and hope for an active intervention, we will be willing to discuss the terms of your involvement in closed negotiations.
To: Empire of Spain
From: Denmark
We have no intention of hindering our ongoing industrial growth to adopt another nation's gauge of railways.
I have no doubt that players can continue to make things interesting for themselves in this particular phase of history, and that things will move unexpectedly. That does not change my longing for the days of tanks, planes, and total war. For the sake of continuing Capto Iugulum overall, as a NES, it'll be best if my plan of evaluations goes into effect with 1855, maybe sooner if a good stopping point emerges unexpectedly. If you're unconvinced that my committment to the 19th century is waning, take this into mind: Every time I start thinking about this NES, my thoughts are almost always, "This will be so much cooler in the 20th century."
To: Empire of Spain
From: Pope Leo XIII
We thank you for finally undertaking your responsibilities as a Catholic ruler and aiding in the restoration of our rightful secular realm. We hope that your involvement will end the specters of the destabilizing influences of liberalism and nationalism.
To: Empire of Spain
From: Austria
We are greatful for your support, and hope for an active intervention, we will be willing to discuss the terms of your involvement in closed negotiations.
To: Empire of Spain
From: Denmark
We have no intention of hindering our ongoing industrial growth to adopt another nation's gauge of railways.
Milarqui
Deity
I hope that the players will ask for a jump to the 20th century as soon as possible. I want to have Tanks!
To: Pope Leo XIII
From: Empire of Spain
We hope that you will soon recover your rightful place as the ruler of the Papal States.
To: Austria
From: Empire of Spain
We expect your message with awaited breath.
To: Denmark
From: Empire of Spain
It is a pity. Considering that many European nations are already using the Flemish Gauge, we hoped you would do the same. Hopefully, it will not be an action you may regret in the future.
This is definitely a good idea.
Certainly, and I agree that as soon as suitable conditions are met, the NES should go forward; but not before.
Agent 89
King
- Joined
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OOC: As far as I'm concerned, the end of the conflicts in Italy and Korea would be as good a point as any to move on to the 20th century.
To: The World
From: Italy
We have heard of the concerns of some regarding Italian nationalism, and to assure the world of our peaceful intentions, we guarantee the independence of Corsica and Sardinia, at least as far as Italy is concerned.
To: Spain
From: Italy
We sincerely hope that the words of the Pope will not cause you to make any hasty decisions. Spain and the world knows of our desire for peace and respect for His Holiness the Pope. However, such meddling in political affairs, as shown by the actions of the Pope over the last year, were never meant to be the Church's purpose. We understand if Spain should feel some duty to financially aid Italy's enemies, but we hope that the Emperor of Spain will be reasonable enough to avoid involving his people in a bloody war so soon after emerging from one.
To: The World
From: Italy
We have heard of the concerns of some regarding Italian nationalism, and to assure the world of our peaceful intentions, we guarantee the independence of Corsica and Sardinia, at least as far as Italy is concerned.
To: Spain
From: Italy
We sincerely hope that the words of the Pope will not cause you to make any hasty decisions. Spain and the world knows of our desire for peace and respect for His Holiness the Pope. However, such meddling in political affairs, as shown by the actions of the Pope over the last year, were never meant to be the Church's purpose. We understand if Spain should feel some duty to financially aid Italy's enemies, but we hope that the Emperor of Spain will be reasonable enough to avoid involving his people in a bloody war so soon after emerging from one.
This is the 44 hour warning for orders. My apologies, but I will be quite busy this time, and I'd recommend any questions for PM instead of IM.
DarthNader
Destroyer of Worlds
From: The Kingdom of Hungary
To: Savoy-Milan, Austria, Paris-Burgundy, Spain, and the Roman Empire
CC: World
After lengthy talks and months of deliberation, Hungary must declare that it is dropping out of its war against Savoy-Milan and is terminating its alliances with Tuscany and Naples.
To: Savoy-Milan, Austria, Paris-Burgundy, Spain, and the Roman Empire
CC: World
After lengthy talks and months of deliberation, Hungary must declare that it is dropping out of its war against Savoy-Milan and is terminating its alliances with Tuscany and Naples.
This is the 24 hour warning to get those orders in. Once more, not available for questions or the like, so get them in!
No more order revisions will be accepted beyond this point.
Milarqui
Deity
To: Kingdom of Italy
From: Empire of Spain
For your unwillingness to free the Papal States and the Kingdom of Naples as we asked, the Empire of Spain declares war on the Kingdom of Italy.
OOC: I know that it is a bit underhanded, but I know that the only ones who are affected by this either knew what I would do already, or hadn't sent orders. Though, in the spirit of fairness, if EQ considers it necessary, he should punish me for it.
From: Empire of Spain
For your unwillingness to free the Papal States and the Kingdom of Naples as we asked, the Empire of Spain declares war on the Kingdom of Italy.
OOC: I know that it is a bit underhanded, but I know that the only ones who are affected by this either knew what I would do already, or hadn't sent orders. Though, in the spirit of fairness, if EQ considers it necessary, he should punish me for it.
Agent 89
King
- Joined
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I'm just glad you're willing to recognize the legitimacy of my nation.
OOC: Oh, come on now. Don't go acting like having Spain on your side means victory is assured. It's painfully obvious Italy is a tough nut to crack.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
OOC: In a few turns we won't have to worry about Spain anymore.
Wait, doesn't Spain have lasers?
As the king of Poland, I would like to assure my people that I have not ordered the brave men of the Asian Expeditionary Force to bow to the demands of the Dutch or any nonsense of the sort. The Dutch were willing to take some responsibility by agreeing to pay reparations to our nation for the destruction of part of our fleet - [30EP over 3 turns]. In addition, I asked them to transport the forces in Siam to Korea to honor our alliances with Scandinavia and Paris-Burgundy. While this may seem fairly paltry, Poland cannot afford to create new enemies at this time. It is also my hope that one day the Dutch will further repay us for our loss.
Some may still criticize me for accepting the aid of the Netherlands in the form of naval transport. These people seem to forget one crucial fact: Restoring the Pope to his rightful status is infinitely more important than what is comparatively a petty squabble over money. Sending any ships to Asia could have potentially doomed his Holiness to be usurped for an even longer period of time than he will be. Furthermore, it would have been a grievous insult to him and Christianity as a whole, by placing gold above God. Seeing this as an act of acceptance of Polish naval inferiority rather than a pious and dutiful action is insane at best. Speaking of the Polish sense of duty, sending no one to aid our two good allies in the Coalition would mean our word is naught but wind. By aiding them, we have proven yet again that our promises are as good as gold.
Lastly, the Prussian who blew up several ships is sentenced to death. Godlessness has no place in Poland. While all Prussians are certainly not godless, this one is, and he shall see the folly of his anarchist ways in the company of Satan, where he truly belongs. May God continue to bless Poland in His infinite kindness for allowing us to catch and punish this madman.
Some may still criticize me for accepting the aid of the Netherlands in the form of naval transport. These people seem to forget one crucial fact: Restoring the Pope to his rightful status is infinitely more important than what is comparatively a petty squabble over money. Sending any ships to Asia could have potentially doomed his Holiness to be usurped for an even longer period of time than he will be. Furthermore, it would have been a grievous insult to him and Christianity as a whole, by placing gold above God. Seeing this as an act of acceptance of Polish naval inferiority rather than a pious and dutiful action is insane at best. Speaking of the Polish sense of duty, sending no one to aid our two good allies in the Coalition would mean our word is naught but wind. By aiding them, we have proven yet again that our promises are as good as gold.
Lastly, the Prussian who blew up several ships is sentenced to death. Godlessness has no place in Poland. While all Prussians are certainly not godless, this one is, and he shall see the folly of his anarchist ways in the company of Satan, where he truly belongs. May God continue to bless Poland in His infinite kindness for allowing us to catch and punish this madman.
No more orders of any type will be accepted beyond this point.
