Capto Iugulum

[Gem Hound]

The Republican movement are crypto-proletarists, dedicated to the overthrow of the honourable institutions of Europe by clandestine means and subterfuge.

All proletarists are rebels and all rebels are proletarists.

On another note, the rightful Empire of Spain greatly appreciates the support given to it by the well-thinking nations of Italy and Peru.

Furthermore, it would also like to note that Resolution 001, which regards the guarantee of Sardinia and Corsica, also only guarantees it's independence from a) invasion by an Italian state and b) is void if the League votes to sanction an Italian invasion.

Thus, Sardinia should be warned - if it takes any action against the rightful Imperial government of Spain, it will be destroyed and there exist no legal defences to stop it.

OOC: @Bluebacon: I think it's Italian. It was just so cool I had to throw it in there.

Spoiler Resolution 001 :

The League has passed Resolution 001, the Resolution for the Independence of Sardinia and Corsica, wherein:

the entirety of the League officially guarantees the independence of Sardinia and Corsica from the wider Italian Republic, until such time as Sardinia and Corsica's own population wish to join.

1) The League of Continental Nations agrees to guarantee Sardinia and Corsica's independence from the Republic of Italy and the Kingdom of Naples, and any united Italian state thereof.
2) No nation on the Italian peninsula is to take military action with the intention of unification or territorial gain against Sardinia and Corsica without a majority approval from the League.
3) Sardinia's colony in Tunisia is to remain Sardinian unless the Sardinian government chooses to give it away for whatever reason.
4) Sardinia and Corsica may join the Italian republic if and only if the majority of the nation's population votes to do so in a free and open plebiscite attended by Spanish, Italian and Sardinian or Corsican observers.

Imperial Spain is actually right concerning the wording of the first resolution.

 

[ZeletDude]

The Republican movement are crypto-proletarists, dedicated to the overthrow of the honourable institutions of Europe by clandestine means and subterfuge.

All proletarists are rebels and all rebels are proletarists.

On another note, the rightful Empire of Spain greatly appreciates the support given to it by the well-thinking nations of Italy and Peru.

Furthermore, it would also like to note that Resolution 001, which regards the guarantee of Sardinia and Corsica, also only guarantees it's independence from a) invasion by an Italian state and b) is void if the League votes to sanction an Italian invasion.

Thus, Sardinia should be warned - if it takes any action against the rightful Imperial government of Spain, it will be destroyed and there exist no legal defences to stop it.

OOC: @Bluebacon: I think it's Italian. It was just so cool I had to throw it in there.

You comparing Republicanism to Proletarism is insulting to The Netherlands, we have been a Republican nation since before Proletarism was even a glimmer in anyone's eye.
Comparing the two is not possible, the Republicans in Spain are fighting for Liberty and Democracy, it is worrisome how overnight, one of the most Liberal nations in Europe turns into an authoritarian state controlled by the military.
As we expressed in the League of Continental Nations we ask that Spain's government return to its Pre-Civil war Democracy, and that the Military government be removed, and a civilian government be allowed to take its place.

 

[Nailix]

We can compare it to a Proletarian regime when the so called Revolutionary Vanguard supports them as Proletarians. It is not an attempt to slap the Netherlands in the face or spit on democracy, but when a very large and influential Proletarian nation backs them, their cause and calls their actions similar to that or Proletarian actions is when we make the comparison.

 

[Grandkhan]

On the conclusion of the war against the Crypto-proletarists, we will hold elections once more.

However, participants will be adjusted and checked for their loyalty to Spain and its Emperor, and the Unión Liberal Española will not be allowed to participate due to their blatant disloyalty.

We are not willing to let traitors and Crypto-proletarists rule in Spain simply so that the Netherland's dedication to ideological purity will be validated.

Ed: We in no way insinuated that the Netherlands was a Proletarist state. The democracy of the Netherlands predates Proletarism and was instituted by legal means. However, this Republican movement is a front for proletarists and their ilk to gain legitimacy from the nations of Europe. When the war is over, they will cast off their disguises and institute the end of order and decency in Spain as we know it.

Do not be fooled by their lies, nations of Europe! Fight back against the crypto-proletarist menace!

 

[TheLastJacobite]

To World
From Russia
Re: Spain

The Empire of Russia hereby announces our full support for the Empire of Spain in their ongoing civil conflict. We would consider any foreign intervention in support of the so called "Republican" anarchists to be an attack on Russia itself and would respond accordingly. We plan on fully aiding Spain in suppressing these dangerous individuals from spreading further strife and chaos in Iberia.

 

[Luckymoose]

TO: World
FROM: Brazil

We may have a thing or two to say about this whole democracy != proletarism thing.

 

[Crezth]

To: Russia
From: The United Kingdom

Your policy in Spain is one of unprecedented hubris and, quite frankly, idiocy. Spain is embroiled in a conflict entirely on her own terms and to imply that its destiny is a quality unto Russia itself is a declaration of such interventionist domination that we can scarcely comprehend it.

We had no intention of getting involved in Spain hitherto, but we wanted to make it clear in no uncertain terms what an absolute nonsense your policy is.

 

[spryllino]

The Confederation would like to add that Russia can hardly expect diplomats and ministers from across the world to change their policies when Russia puts its oar in quite so late in the day.

King Joseph of Paris and Burgundy is surprised if the Emperor of Russia himself, even if there is no Parliament in his nation according to the noble principles of that great nation, cannot see the impropriety of attempting to disband a Parliament by the agency of a military coup. The true monarch rules by the force of personality, divine right, and wisdom; it is these qualities that maintain the Emperor of Russia. But the king who mounts a military coup against his own government for no apparent reason is no true king, and not a man fit to lead his people as the agent of our Lord.

 

[Blue Bacon 3]

It appears Monarchist Spain is paying the full amount of Spanish war reperations. It seems this is at least an indirect recognition of their legitimacy.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

No more orders of any type will be accepted beyond this point.

 

[Crezth]

It appears Monarchist Spain is paying the full amount of Spanish war reperations. It seems this is at least an indirect recognition of their legitimacy.

We would expect either or both successor states to pay the reparations or face sanctions. To wit, if the Republicans so dearly wish to be the proper regime of Spain, then we will expect them to pay their reparations. When the time comes, of course.

 

[SouthernKing]

OOC: Since the Great War is long over, perhaps both alliance groups should be made public? I, for one, would like to see what the continentals were planning.

 

[Luckymoose]

OOC: Since the Great War is long over, perhaps both alliance groups should be made public? I, for one, would like to see what the continentals were planning.

They planned to fail.

 

[spryllino]

OOC:

I don't mind opening up the Continental group if other Continentals are alright with it and if the Allied group opens up too (Crezth?).

Lucky: No, you just kept on smashing our fleet to bits in defiance of all logical probability (not, though, that I think that the opening up of the social groups would show up the planning and leadership of the Continental effort in a particularly marvellous light).

 

[Luckymoose]

We have no intention of opening our group. You will never see our marvelous plans.

 

[theDright]

I can confirm that they were indeed marvelous

 

[ZeletDude]

OOC:

I don't mind opening up the Continental group if other Continentals are alright with it and if the Allied group opens up too (Crezth?).

Lucky: No, you just kept on smashing our fleet to bits in defiance of all logical probability (not, though, that I think that the opening up of the social groups would show up the planning and leadership of the Continental effort in a particularly marvellous light).

I am fine with it, as long as they do too

 

[Lord of Elves]

OOC:

I don't mind opening up the Continental group if other Continentals are alright with it and if the Allied group opens up too (Crezth?).

Lucky: No, you just kept on smashing our fleet to bits in defiance of all logical probability (not, though, that I think that the opening up of the social groups would show up the planning and leadership of the Continental effort in a particularly marvellous light).

This is perfectly acceptable to me, though I'm not entirely committed to the idea of maintaining these groups (which are probably not going to be put into use again) as an archival look into the er, military history, of the Great War. Better and more efficient to make that information available, if that's our intention, somewhere that doesn't require someone to maintain a defunct social group.

 

[Grandkhan]

Yeah, I'd be down for opening up the group if the Allies do the same. I'm curious to see what they were planning had I not signed peace with them in 1908.

 

[ZeletDude]

I know they were planning on destroying the Dutch dikes which is not very civil