Capto Iugulum

[Azale]

Party of Revenge sounds like a terrible Chinese kung fu movie.

 

[ChiefDesigner]

Party of Revenge sounds like a terrible Chinese kung fu movie.

Backstroke of the West:

http://winterson.com/2009/01/episode-iii-backstroke-of-west-redux.html

 

[ZeletDude]

To: World, The Scandinavian Proletarists, The Kongo
From: The United Republic of The Netherlands

Nearly a decade ago the Proletarists seized power in Scandinavia, and our Socialist government recognized them as legitimate. We feel that this decision was hastily made. The Workers' Commonwealth is a clear threat to European, and World Peace. There recent actions in trying to spread their so called 'revolution' has forced to reconsider the previous recognition we have bestowed upon them. Therefore, we must cut all diplomatic recognition, and trade rights we hold with The Proletarists in Stockholm, thus, we are transferring official diplomatic recognition to The Imperial Government in Haraldsholm.

 

[christos200]

From Pontus
To the World:

We officialy cease relations with both The Scandinavian Proletarists and The Imperial Government in Haraldsholm.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Well that's not very helpful to anyone.

I suppose I should draft a statement regarding my views on the matter.

 

[christos200]

Well that's not very helpful to anyone.

Until they decide who is the legal Government, Pontus cannot, in good will, to recognize one Government of the two.

 

[Blue Bacon 3]

1.) You are correct that "wang" means "king". However, using the term "wang" for a monarch has very precise political connotations in the Chinese mindset, which you should be aware of.

The traditional term for the head of the Chinese state (of which there is one, and exactly one, legitimate Chinese state) is 皇帝, "huangdi", traditionally translated as "emperor".

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I really enjoy this type of effortposts!
Oh, and thanks for the Backstroke of the West linky.

 

[GamezRule]

Until they decide who is the legal Government, Pontus cannot, in good will, to recognize one Government of the two.

Yes but nobody cares...

 

[Lord of Elves]

From: Workers' Commonwealth
To: Netherlands
CC: Anyone Else It Concerns
This betrayal will not be forgotten. We can only presume that your government has taken it upon itself to whore out its international loyalties for trinket payments of geopolitical sponsorship and kowtowing. We see now you are liars and traitors, whose loyalty is worth nothing more than the money which can be used to buy it.

Until they decide who is the legal Government, Pontus cannot, in good will, to recognize one Government of the two.

The Indubitably Hellenic and Supremely Officious Republic of Pontus' intrusion on this matter is neither needed nor appreciated. Doubtlessly, a republican state such as the aforementioned nation ought to understand that democratic achievement that is and was the Revolution of the Proletariat, and the status of the "Haraldsholm" Kongo Society military junta dictatorship as an illegitimate and rebellious entity existing in spite of Scandinavian democracy. It is clear as the day is long who has just and legal sovereignty over the Fatherland, and consequently, ought to have sovereignty over the colonies. Putting this matter aside however, we find it difficult to motivate ourselves to care about the opinions of the Republic of Pontus, and look forward to hearing from the Imperial Duchy of Trebizond as soon as that state is quickly and efficiently overthrown by the Tsarist tyrants to its north.

Good day to you sir, we hope that the door doesn't hit you on the way out, assuming we bothered to install a door in any embassy we might ever seek to have in your state.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

To: Workers' Commonwealth of Scandinavia
From: Kingdom of Vinland

Of course, strong arguments could be made that your own views of what entails 'democracy' have become dramatically skewed in recent years, First Proletarian. The state of democracy in both the Empire and the Commonwealth has been rather disheartening, as of late.

 

[Blue Bacon 3]

To: the Worker's Commonwealth of Scandinavia
From: Peru

So you deny instigating violence in Africa, Japan and beyond despite the ever mounting pile of evidence?

 

[christos200]

From Pontus
To the world:

After threats by the Proletariat Scums, Pontus recognizes the Imperial Government in Haraldsholm as the legal Government.

 

[Lord of Elves]

To: the Worker's Commonwealth of Scandinavia
From: Peru

So you deny instigating violence in Africa, Japan and beyond despite the ever mounting pile of evidence?

"Ever-mounting pile of evidence"? What evidence? How many times must we state that we have no quarrel with the principles of colonialism in Africa? The Workers' Commonwealth has neither the time nor the inclination to address these fallacious charges again and again. We are more than willing to produce documents regarding our sale of arms and munitions to the Kongo Society Regime with the intention that they be used to maintain order in the colonies. These are the rifles which were discovered in the hands of Egyptian rebels, placed there presumably by the Kongo Society regime, for we never had any dealings with the Egyptian people.

We shall say for the last time, we hope, that we have not sought and shall never seek any means by which to usurp the illegal Kongo Society junta (as distasteful as it may be) that could even potentially result in native uprisings. We hope that these claims can be dismissed, and will certainly not entertain them any further.

@christos200, there is such a thing as being facetious, as I think my post indicated, I don't have the time or inclination to actually threaten Pontus.

 

[GamezRule]

Turkey officially recognizes that nobody cares about Pontus' or it's own opinion on the matter and thus will not be commenting on said matter. We also wish to inform the government of Kurdistan that they can still end this war by recognizing current borders.

 

[christos200]

Turkey officially recognizes that nobody cares about Pontus' or it's own opinion on the matter and thus will not be commenting on said matter. We also wish to inform the government of Kurdistan that they can still end this war by recognizing current borders.

We support Turkey on this issue. Kurdistan should end the war. However, we warn Turkey to defend their new lands but to not attack the rest of Kurdistan.

Pontus believes that Kurdistan should accept the Turkish victory, but also Turkey must accept the independence of Kurdistan.

 

[m.t.cicero]

1.) You are correct that "wang" means "king". However, using the term "wang" for a monarch has very precise political connotations in the Chinese mindset, which you should be aware of.

The traditional term for the head of the Chinese state (of which there is one, and exactly one, legitimate Chinese state) is 皇帝, "huangdi", traditionally translated as "emperor".

There are three possible uses that the usage of "wang" here implies--first, that Guangxi is not a legitimate state; that Guangxi does not consider itself Chinese; or that Guangxi is a subordinate kingdom. All Chinese successor states seek to reunify the country and re-establish the Chinese nation; that is their raison d'etre, and no self-respecting monarchical successor state is going to willingly give up that kind of legitimacy.

On top of that, giving the title "wang" to a Qing descendant is a huge loss of face for that family.

Well Guangxi isn't exactly a successor state; the King was placed there by the British, so in fact it is a subordinate kingdom (Dominion) of Britain. Perhaps if the situation were to change he would adopt the title "huangdi." Would "wang" still be unacceptable in this situation?

2.) If your parties are English, why don't they have English names first? Why is "Party of Revenge" even a thing?

Which party's name translates to revenge? Google Translate isn't showing anything as translating to 'revenge'.

 

[Lokki242]

Persia officially states that Kurdish refugees will be granted safe haven in our lands. But they have to arrive there first.

 

[ChiefDesigner]

Well Guangxi isn't exactly a successor state; the King was placed there by the British, so in fact it is a subordinate kingdom (Dominion) of Britain. Perhaps if the situation were to change he would adopt the title "huangdi." Would "wang" still be unacceptable in this situation?

Depends on where the political center of gravity for Guangxi is. If the Guangxi regime is propped up by British bayonets, and would not exist without British backing (either a semicolonial state like Cuba or Argentina, or a British satellite, like cold war-era South Vietnam, South Korea or Taiwan), then the correct title is "King"; showing that he poses no threat to London and has no desire to be uppity.

On the other hand, if Guangxi is intended to be a popular regime, with its legitimacy deriving from the consent of its Chinese majority, then the Qing needs to be Emperor and Guangxi needs to position itself as the rightful government-in-exile. (Then it needs to liberate one of Beijing, Nanjing, Xian or Luoyang, proclaim a new dynasty, then stomp all over its neighbors and Japan, because that is what the internal politics dictate.

Which party's name translates to revenge? Google Translate isn't showing anything as translating to 'revenge'.

Mistake on my part--misread "Conservative Party". It's a fine awkward neologism.

Liberals care about order as much as any other political group, they just go about it differently.

*double facepalm*

 

[Quisani]

Formal Stuff

Formal Name of your Nation: Empire of Japan
Formal Name for the Army: Imperial Japanese Army
Formal Name for the Navy: Imperial Japanese Navy
Formal Name for the Air Force: Imperial Japanese Aerial Force (As of Spring 1921)
Status of Labor Unions: Illegal

Monarchy Information

Monarch's Title: Emperor of Japan
Current Monarch: Emperor Taisho
Monarchy's Dynasty Name: Imperial House of Japan
Extent of Monarch's Power: Absolute Monarch

 

[SamSniped]

Turkey officially recognizes that nobody cares about Pontus' or it's own opinion on the matter and thus will not be commenting on said matter. We also wish to inform the government of Kurdistan that they can still end this war by recognizing current borders.

And I would like to inform you that I wish for us to not be stuck at this impasse. I am willing to discuss peace, but not essentially a surrender.

OOC: I have absolutely no idea about Kurdish history in the game. Time to do a lot of reading, it seems.