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Luckymoose
The World is Mine
TO: Italian States
FROM: Brazil
There will be no solution to the Italian conflict until Sardinia has paid the price for their attacks on the Brazilian fleet without a declaration of war. All parties at peace with the Allies must adhere to treaties that force their neutrality in the conflict, thus if they continue to break the very peace they desired to sign another war will surely break out.
TO: Spain
FROM: Brazil
Sardinia had attacked the Allies during the war and thus the United Kingdom and Brazil are in a state of war against that nation. Spanish political comments on Italy are breaking the Treaty of Madrid.
Cease and desist.
FROM: Brazil
There will be no solution to the Italian conflict until Sardinia has paid the price for their attacks on the Brazilian fleet without a declaration of war. All parties at peace with the Allies must adhere to treaties that force their neutrality in the conflict, thus if they continue to break the very peace they desired to sign another war will surely break out.
TO: Spain
FROM: Brazil
Sardinia had attacked the Allies during the war and thus the United Kingdom and Brazil are in a state of war against that nation. Spanish political comments on Italy are breaking the Treaty of Madrid.
Cease and desist.
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
To: Spain
From: The United Kingdom
Stay out of those affairs which do not concern you. This is between us and the aggressors in Sardinia.
To: Sardinia
From: The United Kingdom
The reason we are at war lies in your unlawful attack upon the Brazilian ships, of which we are still expecting penitence in some way, shape, or form.
From: The United Kingdom
Stay out of those affairs which do not concern you. This is between us and the aggressors in Sardinia.
To: Sardinia
From: The United Kingdom
The reason we are at war lies in your unlawful attack upon the Brazilian ships, of which we are still expecting penitence in some way, shape, or form.
To Brazil
From the Confederation
We are not distributing any form of material, diplomatic, or political aid to any Italian faction in advising a ceasefire, which brings no benefit to any party except the general benefit of peace, and which, as far as I can see, is in any case generally what all the parties in the conflict desire, even if some of them see obstacles to the realisation of this aim. Furthermore, we certainly neither intend nor mean any offence to Brazil on account of this.
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
Indeed; however, calling for a ceasefire and expecting to oversee it, and indeed expecting to be appointed to a position of jurisdiction in the said matter, is a violation of neutrality. Your simple calls for peace, however, are not.
We are fine with allowing Austria and Brandenburg to oversee the matter, but Franco-Burgundy, the Netherlands, Denmark, Scandinavia, and Spain are all banned from doing so.
We are fine with allowing Austria and Brandenburg to oversee the matter, but Franco-Burgundy, the Netherlands, Denmark, Scandinavia, and Spain are all banned from doing so.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
TO: France
FROM: Brazil
The treaty you have quoted demands a cease of diplomatic participation in the Italian conflict. If you continue to defy your own peace terms the FREE PEOPLE of the world will not forget.
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Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
To: Franco-Burgundy
From: The United Kingdom
That's plainly not true. You intended to use the League as your personal whacking stick, to defy the Treaty of Tuileries with all appearance of legality. Now that Flanders is chairman, we can see that your little plot has been undermined somewhat; but nevertheless we refuse to recognize the League as the gestalt, peaceful international cooperative that you would have us believe. Nations are nations, and League observers are naught but observers of the country that bore them.
From: The United Kingdom
That's plainly not true. You intended to use the League as your personal whacking stick, to defy the Treaty of Tuileries with all appearance of legality. Now that Flanders is chairman, we can see that your little plot has been undermined somewhat; but nevertheless we refuse to recognize the League as the gestalt, peaceful international cooperative that you would have us believe. Nations are nations, and League observers are naught but observers of the country that bore them.
To Brazil
From the Confederation
As Britain acknowledged just now, we have not defied our own peace terms merely by advising a ceasefire.
To Britain
From the Confederation
You are quite mistaken, and we will not send observers in any case if any party objects to them being there, and we have at no point volunteered to send any observers.
From the Confederation
As Britain acknowledged just now, we have not defied our own peace terms merely by advising a ceasefire.
To Britain
From the Confederation
You are quite mistaken, and we will not send observers in any case if any party objects to them being there, and we have at no point volunteered to send any observers.
erez87
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The fact Flanders was chosen is proof your idea that the league was some tool of the confederation is no more than a conspiracy theory, and a bad one at that.
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
To: Italian Republic
From: The United Kingdom
Franco-Burgundy's continued forays into matters forbidden from its consideration by the Treaty of Tuileries support our theory.
From: The United Kingdom
Franco-Burgundy's continued forays into matters forbidden from its consideration by the Treaty of Tuileries support our theory.
erez87
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The Franco Burgundians have sent no aid of any sort to any of the Italian states. While I admit they are testing the limits of the treaty, they are not doing anything to break it. So it's still a bad conspiracy theory.
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
We never suggested they have. By your own admission, they are testing its limits, which as far as we are concerned is tantamount to breaking it eventually.
erez87
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Until broken, it is not broken. Looking for the limits of the treaty is a fair way of getting what they can while still not breaking it.
Please. I know you are far from a decent ruler, but conspiracy theories are just silly for a ruler of a nation.
To Britain
From the Confederation
Either we have broken the treaty or we have not broken the treaty. As we understand it, we have not broken the treaty, and whether any of our actions is "tantamount" to breaking the treaty is irrelevant unless they actually constitute breaches thereof.
From the Confederation
Either we have broken the treaty or we have not broken the treaty. As we understand it, we have not broken the treaty, and whether any of our actions is "tantamount" to breaking the treaty is irrelevant unless they actually constitute breaches thereof.
Grandkhan
Telvanni Master Wizard
To: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Brazil
From: Spain
The stability and insurance of peace in the Mediterranean are of every nations concern.
That said, Spain only pledged neutrality in the current Italian conflict. Your threats against Sardinia were not current at the time of signing. If there was a war previously, as you so claim, then there was no conflict in 1907. On the contrary, they have only emerged after the Peace of Madrid. Thus we have every right to comment on it.
Even so, do not be foolish. Sardinia represents no threat to you. You have made no attempts to get reparations for your lost ships. Make peace with Sardinia. Exact reparations if you must. Negotiate.
But for the sake of Peace in Europe, do not be so obstinate as to inflame the current Italian conflict even further for your own wounded pride. We are trying to appeal to your better judgement and nature here, to avoid making the same mistakes as we did that caused the Great War. Take the spirit of the Peace of Madrid and the Treaty of Tuilleries at heart, and end your foolish campaign against Sardinia.
From: Spain
The stability and insurance of peace in the Mediterranean are of every nations concern.
That said, Spain only pledged neutrality in the current Italian conflict. Your threats against Sardinia were not current at the time of signing. If there was a war previously, as you so claim, then there was no conflict in 1907. On the contrary, they have only emerged after the Peace of Madrid. Thus we have every right to comment on it.
Even so, do not be foolish. Sardinia represents no threat to you. You have made no attempts to get reparations for your lost ships. Make peace with Sardinia. Exact reparations if you must. Negotiate.
But for the sake of Peace in Europe, do not be so obstinate as to inflame the current Italian conflict even further for your own wounded pride. We are trying to appeal to your better judgement and nature here, to avoid making the same mistakes as we did that caused the Great War. Take the spirit of the Peace of Madrid and the Treaty of Tuilleries at heart, and end your foolish campaign against Sardinia.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
TO: Spain
FROM: Brazil
Sardinia aided the Spanish fleet in attacking and sinking the Brazilian fleet in the sea during the war, as such a state of war has and continues to exist between Brazil and Sardinia. There is no new conflict. If Spain continues to break neutrality the world will not look lightly upon this.
FROM: Brazil
Sardinia aided the Spanish fleet in attacking and sinking the Brazilian fleet in the sea during the war, as such a state of war has and continues to exist between Brazil and Sardinia. There is no new conflict. If Spain continues to break neutrality the world will not look lightly upon this.
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