Charles F Adams DD 06-06-2005

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Winter,

you always have all of those kewl-ass drawings of the ships

Cheers, wasn't easy to find- though most times these can only be found in books. I'd wish for more like these to be online for me to play with and make a grand library site for ships...

 

[El Justo]

Cheers, wasn't easy to find- though most times these can only be found in books. I'd wish for more like these to be online for me to play with and make a grand library site for ships...

sorry to quasi-spam in your thread vingrjoe...however, i know i find these drawings sometimes on fas.org; at least for aircraft that is but i've seen some of sea units, too.

@vingrjoe
of course, i look forward to your next round of beauties!

 

[MarineCorps]

ownage...sorry wyrm...someone took the time to look up the definition LOL I had to credit Marine

KICK AS$ UNIT VINGRJOE

Yeah I have no life.

 

[warmwaffles]

Yeah I have no life.

Ya I dont havea life anymore...just lost it due to football and well civilization

 

[Goldflash]

@ Winter: Actually, very few Americans seem to knopw of Stillwell and His Role in the Burma Campaign.

And for that matter, the Burma Campaign in General. Its one of thoes fogotten Wars and I am WAY opposed to any war/battle being forgotten.

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Well, the "keep the Birma (Burma) Road open" theme is well known, over here, yet I have to confess, the name of Stillwell is not very prominent, since Burma was swapped from command to command during the pre-war period and the months of the war. I had to look it up and only a side remark was made about the commanders. Some dictionaries don't even mention him at all, most and the foremost superior commanders having been British... I believe there was an (American) movie about this, right? In any way General Merrill's "Marauders" are generaly far better known.

 

[Goldflash]

Stillwell commanded the only American Unit in the Burma Theater... 2nd Infantry Division, I think

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Nah, Merrill was there with the 5307th Composite, and would only later come under Stilwell's Northern Combat Area Command, though operating on its own as detached elite long range penetration group operating deep behing Japanese lines. Merrill led his men on their first campaign on 24th February 1944 when his merely 700 men strong unit attacked the 18th Japanese Division in Burma. It was this action that enabled General Joseph Stilwell to gain control of the Hakawing Valley. "Merrill's Marauders" as they became known, became the first American
infantrymen to fight on the Asiatic mainland. Within less than a year, and after only 5 mayor engagements Merrill was promoted from Mayor to General.

Gen. Frank D. Merrill | Gen Joeseph Stilwell (10th Army)
Burma 1944

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@Vingrjoe: Would you consider making a post-war German Destroyer of the 60s? The Hamburg Class?

Just look at this peculiar design: 3 bow torpedo tubes (had two more aft)

 

[vingrjoe]

Very interesting Winter. Is there a more clear line drawing of that destroyer, or could you post the link if it is on the web ?

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Hmm, I fear that this is as good as it gets... I got them here (scroll down)

On this page there are several other drawings, with the pre-construction design study model, the first drawing (pre-construction design) and the last two ones being "best" quality.

While here there are more real life photographs of the ships.

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

oh wait- here- there indeed is something !!! Will this do?

Destroyer HH Class I also found somethin interesting: The only German Post-war Cruiser (unmistakeably in the same design style as the smaller Destroyers) CL "Deutschland". Here pictured at Tokyo (quite large considering Germany had a tonnage limit imposed after WWII)...

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I got these from the bottom (scroll down Page 1 and also see top of Page 2) of this cool site (unfortunately in German ) Though scroll through the pages, plenty of picture materials on each side:

German Destroyers:
Page 1
Page 2
German Frigates:
Page 3
Page 4
Ships (Cruisers, Tenders, Cargo):
Page 5
Page 6 (Cruiser!)

 

[vingrjoe]

Thanks for the links, Winter. I'll have to bookmark that homepage.

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Welcome

Just realised the same overall hull design was used to make the same period Köln Class of Frigates (Page 3 somewhere in the middle with the Emden F221- not to be confuesed with F210 Emden(II), its successor of the Bremen Class of Frigates). The Cruiser, the destroyers and the frigates look amazingly alike, the latter two seeming like they were washed too hot and shrunk as a result

Frigate in the same design, click to see - changed to URL do to bandwith issues

I like this design- it mirrors the large ammount of systems that had to fit onto the very small tonnage of these vessels, making these average sized crafts more than capable opponents when compared to other navies' counterparts, similar in size. some technical plans at bottom

 

[El Justo]

mmm!

Deutsche schiffe!

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

that site seems to be down from time to time- might be a bandwith problem... I'll remove the picks soon...

 

[vingrjoe]

Here is an enlarged version that Aluminum made at Winter's request.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Alu__vingrjoe_CFAdamsDD_+10%1.zip

 

[Hornblower]

Brilliant! I served on all three Aussie Perth class DDG's before their decommissioning. The graphic does those fantastic steamships justice. I look forward to using this bad boy soon!

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Brilliant! I served on all three Aussie Perth class DDG's before their decommissioning. The graphic does those fantastic steamships justice. I look forward to using this bad boy soon!

Hello, and Welcome at CFC nice to have someone amongst us that saw these in actual use. It is interesting how many former army people play civ3.

 

[ABC'd]

OMG! Realize I am late to the party but I and my son were trolling for units and I saw this. I served on the USS Waddell DDG-24 from 77-81. This is fantastic! My very own Civ Waddell! Sweeeeet! Very cool Vinegar Joe!

 

[General 666]

Here is an enlarged version that Aluminum made at Winter's request.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Alu__vingrjoe_CFAdamsDD_+10%1.zip

The link doesn`t work anymore. Is the DL still available ? On your HD ,I mean ?!