Citizen Group: Communist Party

[koondrad]

Woah, where did the avatars come from?

Right well, as we get some more members we'll have to organise the party a bit.

So any suggestions for the sort of model we should follow?

 

[Nomad Bryce]

Yes, I think we should follow the model of the NRO, where all members are equal and the changing of the manifesto is based on voting.

 

[ChrisMDP]

I suggest a name change - perhaps the Marxists? That might more accuratly reflect your views?

Not interested in joining, I have my hands full with the MOO, although I appreciate your support of workers. More pastures is good

 

[koondrad]

Yes, I think we should follow the model of the NRO, where all members are equal and the changing of the manifesto is based on voting.

Is this what you mean?

The NRO is to be a purely democratic citizen group and no leader or group of leaders will make changes to the principles.

6. The principles of the NRO may not be edited until there are at least 5 members of the organization.

7. To edit the principles, a member must post all requested changes and get 1/2 (rounded up) of the members to support the call for editing. If the required number of members support the call, a vote will be placed on wether or not to bring the changes into effect, and if 2/3 of the NRO body vote for the changes they will be put into place and these principles will be changed as suggested.

That seems fair to me. Also, there was a rule about members being removed if they were inactive for two weeks to stop the votes being inconclusive which I think we should implement if we plan to have a lot of votes.

 

[Armed_Maniac]

I suggest a name change - perhaps the Marxists? That might more accuratly reflect your views?

Not interested in joining, I have my hands full with the MOO, although I appreciate your support of workers. More pastures is good

Hell no! The use of the word 'communist' is almost acceptable when you consider all the deformations and misusages it suffered, marxism should not be tainted by this. This has nothing to do with the words of Karl Marx. Keep the name it currently has or pick a new un-related one... nor Marxist...

 

[koondrad]

Hell no! The use of the word 'communist' is almost acceptable when you consider all the deformations and misusages it suffered, marxism should not be tainted by this. This has nothing to do with the words of Karl Marx. Keep the name it currently has or pick a new un-related one... nor Marxist...

Don't worry, as far as I know the name's not going to get changed.

 

[Armed_Maniac]

it would have surprised me, but i felt the need to say it anyways.

 

[Nomad Bryce]

No need to be so harsh armed maniac. You make it sound like our party has tainted views, we have our own views, and nothing makes them a taint. I recognize that this is different then marxism and I have no plans on changing the name but you make us sound dirty.

 

[Nomad Bryce]

Koondrad thats exactly what I mean. Perhaps, with everyones agreeing, I should edit that into the manifesto.

 

[Armed_Maniac]

indeed, but ideologies can be as touchy as religions...

 

[Nomad Bryce]

Comrades! The largest of the imperial parties, the IIP, outnumbers us in membership by at least 4 imperialists for every comrade! We should discuss the causes of our lack of membership and figure out a way to convince more people in our direction. I was already thinking that one problem with convincing people early on is that they may mistake us for not be land grabbers in the beggining? Obviously any good civ must expand quickly in the beggining. I figure once we have set borders touching our neighbors and our mainland Nation is secure, we will gain more followers, but early membership is still lower then it could possibly be. We must begin discussing how to gain support.

Comrade Bryce

 

[Tboy]

As a fellow socialist, I feel it is my duty to sign up.

Comrade Tboy.

 

[koondrad]

Comrade Tboy, glad to have you.
Comrade Bryce, may I suggest that we all link to this thread in our sigs and then post in the greater forums.

 

[Tboy]

Question: Does military buildings extend to defensive buildings, e.g. walls and such? I believe these should be exempt from the military buildings, as without them other, more imperialistic-minded civilizations may attack and rule us.

Comrade Tboy.

 

[Tboy]

Another point: due the Cold war, some people might associate 'communist' with 'dictatorship, expansion, oppression'. We should help dispel this myth and in turn gain more members.

Comrade Tboy

 

[Tboy]

Just edited my sig to get more members.

Comrade Tboy.

 

[Nomad Bryce]

Question: Does military buildings extend to defensive buildings, e.g. walls and such? I believe these should be exempt from the military buildings, as without them other, more imperialistic-minded civilizations may attack and rule us.

Comrade Tboy.

Walls are not a harmful building, but economic and cultural buildings should really be put first UNLESS a sitaution is dangerous or a position is key. There are circumstances where building a wall would be useful, but economy=technology and technology=better defense. Therefore I advacate using a strong economy to achieve tech supremecy which would let us use non-veteran units that are superior to even the most veteren of the hostile civ's units.

 

[koondrad]

Perhaps if we call it the Democratic Communist Party, or something to that effect, it will make it more obvious that there are no dictatorships here.

 

[Alphawolf]

Walls are not a harmful building, but economic and cultural buildings should really be put first UNLESS a sitaution is dangerous or a position is key. There are circumstances where building a wall would be useful, but economy=technology and technology=better defense. Therefore I advacate using a strong economy to achieve tech supremecy which would let us use non-veteran units that are superior to even the most veteren of the hostile civ's units.

In this I must disagree with you. I believe you are underestimating the power of multiple promotions in this game. A unit with City Raider has a 20% bonus when attacking cities, a fully upgraded one with City Rader III has a 75% bonus. That's not including any other bonuses it might have thus just having a more advanced unit is not a guarantee that you'll win a battle. However if you have a barracks and build a defensive unit you can give it the City Garrison I promotion which confers a 20% city defense bonus on it. Barracks are necessary in the early years since the cities are venerable to barbarians and you never know when they'll show up.

-the Wolf

 

[schardiego]

May the comrades let me join thier Glorious Revolution??...but one question... is this group used for something??...online gaming??
Thanks,
Comrade D