Citizen Group: Communist Party

[koondrad]

Tortsky

Who?

It's State Property or nothing in my view.

We're quite happy to use State Property.

All you seem to be offering is watered down bourgeois socialism, the kind that Tony Blair and New Labour have marketed to the upper middle classes of Britain so successfuly.

Emm... no. As has been discussed, the manifesto is being rewritten to read more accurately.

Good luck though, anyway, I suppose you are still a mild improvement on some other groupings.

Cheers.

 

[Alphawolf]

Tortsky

Do you mean Trotsky by any chance?

-the Wolf

 

[CaliSurfer]

I'm just curious, is our party going anywhere?

 

[koondrad]

Currently it's in a transitional stage and Comrade Bryce is very busy at the moment so for now we're in limbo.

 

[Phantom_Lord]

Hi!
I´m completely new to the demo-game but I have read through almost everything in this forum. As I usually play peaceful builder I share most of the viewpoints in your manifest and would like to join the party.

 

[Nomad Bryce]

Work load has been very high, I am a very active person in my normal life. With my work load reaching a climax as teachers push to finish an agenda before break, I will remain inactive on the site. This said, I plan to have all revisions, with Koondrad, done by New Years. So anyway, signing off, comrade Bryce.

 

[Alphawolf]

Welcome back and Good bye Nomad Bryce. Hope you come back soon.

Check you PMs

-the Wolf

 

[Phantom_Lord]

Thanks for letting me in comrade Nomad Bryce

 

[Tompskij]

Comrades, I would like to join!

Long live the revolution!

 

[Nomad Bryce]

Dear Comrades, I have been nominated as Minister of Culture. Although I would prefer to hold the position of Minister of Interior to ensure that our economy is built correctly, I have accepted the previous nomination and would hope that my fellow comrades would support my bid for the seat. This said, we also need an economy master in the Ministry of Science, so I plan to nominate Koondrad for the position. Anyway, please support me and dont forget to vote!

 

[koondrad]

Just so you know, I will be absent from the 27th to the 29th of this month. I'll accept a nomination though.

 

[loveandpolitics]

Am I the only one who has ever studied Marx? According to Marx the only way to true communism is to wait it out! Capitalism is an essential phase according to him, despite it's evils. In time capitalism will destroy itself, the state will wither away and we will all live in a communist utopia. Not a single "communist" country has ever had very much in common with poor Marx and Engels...probably because what I said above frustrated them so much!

Furthermore, the term communism is incorectly used to describe countries such as the USSR and in modern days China. These countries actually practice a system which we in the political science call "State Socialism".

 

[Alphawolf]

Am I the only one who has ever studied Marx? According to Marx the only way to true communism is to wait it out! Capitalism is an essential phase according to him, despite it's evils. In time capitalism will destroy itself, the state will wither away and we will all live in a communist utopia. Not a single "communist" country has ever had very much in common with poor Marx and Engels...probably because what I said above frustrated them so much!

Furthermore, the term communism is incorectly used to describe countries such as the USSR and in modern days China. These countries actually practice a system which we in the political science call "State Socialism".

I believe that Nomad Bryce is planning on changing the name of this party, he just hasn't decided on a name yet.

-the Wolf

 

[loveandpolitics]

Nothing wrong with calling the party Communist. You might also try Marxist or Socialist.

 

[Tompskij]

Am I the only one who has ever studied Marx? According to Marx the only way to true communism is to wait it out! Capitalism is an essential phase according to him, despite it's evils. In time capitalism will destroy itself, the state will wither away and we will all live in a communist utopia. Not a single "communist" country has ever had very much in common with poor Marx and Engels...probably because what I said above frustrated them so much!

Furthermore, the term communism is incorectly used to describe countries such as the USSR and in modern days China. These countries actually practice a system which we in the political science call "State Socialism".

I have studied Marx too.

 

[koondrad]

Am I the only one who has ever studied Marx? According to Marx the only way to true communism is to wait it out! Capitalism is an essential phase according to him, despite it's evils. In time capitalism will destroy itself, the state will wither away and we will all live in a communist utopia. Not a single "communist" country has ever had very much in common with poor Marx and Engels...probably because what I said above frustrated them so much!

Furthermore, the term communism is incorectly used to describe countries such as the USSR and in modern days China. These countries actually practice a system which we in the political science call "State Socialism".

That's great and all, but this party is for a game. This isn't RL. Civ4 doesn't have the ability to, nor does it intend to, replicate the economic and social situations of a country.

 

[Nomad Bryce]

The Communist Party will soon be evolving into the Workers' Party.

 

[Nomad Bryce]

I would like to ask members of the Communist Party to comment on this new setup. The First Half was written by Koondrad, the second part by myself:

Workers' Party

Party Principles:

1) We value commerce, industrialization and trade:

- Trade is very important.
- Workers are the most important unit in the game.
- Industrialization means building tile improvements and building many buildings in cities.
- No tile should go unimproved.
- We strive for good diplomatic relations and trade agreements.
- Open borders are good.

2) We disdain war:

- We will build military units and buildings.
- A strong military is essential for defence.
- We will only participate in wars if they are in the defence of allies.
- We will not start wars in order to expand.
- We always seek to achieve our ends by diplomatic means.
- War is a last resort.

3) Expansion is important, but colonization is not:

- We will seek to settle unoccupied land whenever it is appropriate.
- We will actively try and secure resources.
- We will avoid colonization (the act of settling on another continent) assuming that there is space for about 7 cities on our own continent.
- Colonization is acceptable when it avoids invasion if we need to expand.
- Colonization is acceptable when it is to a secure a resource.

Favored Civics:
Government: Representation, Universal Suffrage
Legal: Bureaucracy, Free Speech
Labor: Serfdom, Emancipation
Economy: Free Market, Environmentalism
Religion: Organized Religion, Pacifism, Free Religion

Civics not listed are frowned upon by party policy.

 

[Alphawolf]

The Communist Party will soon be evolving into the Workers' Party.

Check your PMs.

-the Wolf

 

[koondrad]

Check your PMs.

-the Wolf

Do you not think this is a suitable name?