City States of the World

[thomas.berubeg]

How about Malta? Ragusa? Gibraltar? (IIRC, it's not in now)

 

[Pouakai]

Ragusa is already ingame, Malta and Gibraltar could be good ones...

 

[Opera]

There's two Ragusa from what I gather. The in-game one is in Italy while the one now known as Dubrovnik isn't.

For now I'll stick to the list I gave earlier.

 

[black_imperator]

honestly , from an historic point of view, only the croatian one (Ragusa\Dubrovnilk (nice city by the way)) was really a city-state, in rivalry with Venice for two centuries or so

the sicilian was not much more than a small town

 

[Opera]

Well, to be honest I thought Ragusa in game was Dubrovnik. Never heard of the sicilian one.

 

[labrynianrebel]

Same here, I was shocked when I read the pedia article only to find it was talking about the sicily one

 

[Herex]

It has been mentioned a few times already, and you're probably fixing the bug for the next version, but I'm meeting some city states that decides to pump out Settlers.

Btw, is it a bug that city states sometimes don't give gold, when you meet them? I just met Capetown and Samarkand, and they didnt give me the 15 gold they usually give.

 

[Opera]

Were you attacking them a lot? I mean, any CS. At some point new CSs won't give you any more money if you're known as a cs destroyer

 

[Herex]

Oh, that's a good point. I've attacked 2 CS', and got the warning that some of the CS' are stating to band together etc.
Darn those City States.

How are the next version coming along btw? I'm looking forward to it.
Also... are city states really as varied as this thread suggests? Like... do they have deeper personalities and priorities than just being Cultured/Maritime/Militaristic and Neutral/Friendly/etc?

 

[Opera]

Yes, they do have flavors. I'm not sure how far Firaxis went with them though. Maybe not much. Their personality (which is randomly chosen) affects what quests they ask for, not their flavors... So it seems their personality and type are much more important.

(but it's probably due to flavors that some are producing settlers)

And I'm not working on it right now. Kind of busy with college and using my free time for something else. But I'll eventually make it

 

[Herex]

Aw that's a shame.

I'm probably gonna deactivate your mod, until it's updated. I'd rather have all my citystates producing sensible things.
But as soon as you got a new version going, I'll be all over it.

 

[Zenstrive]

add Jogjakarta (Cultural) please. It's a city state within a country

 

[Zenstrive]

Jakarta (Maritime) -- capital of Indonesia, part of the fourth c. kingdom of Tarumanagara

It's never been a city-state. Always part of an empire. First the various hindu or buddha or Islam kingdoms, and then dutch, and finally Indonesia.

 

[Pouakai]

Rio has never been a city state either.

 

[Moosh]

Opera, do you foresee any reason your mod wouldn't work with this mod here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=392543

I'm in the mood to mod my Vanilla Civ V and I like this mod, that mod I linked, and Valk's Economy mod, just wanna know if I should expect errors or not. Thanks!

-Moosh

 

[KidJustKid]

(FIRST POST EVAR!)

Just thinking about some indigenous civs that have shrunk or superceded. Justification in brackets.

Fez - Cultural (Historically dominant city of the area)
Lagos - Maritime (Centre of Yoruba people)
Mycenae - Cultural (Massive civ centre in Bronze Age)
Hattusa - Militaristic (")
Balí - Cultural / Maritime (Not needed if you're adding Jakarta or Manilla as well, but may work otherwise)
Hokkaido - Militaristic (Very different and separate from Japan itself and has co-existed rather than been a menber of it; as pretty much the only new option in the area I could think of,may work if running this on a true position.)
Colchis / Tbilisi - Cultural (Again more a client to successive powers than a smaller province, and has been culturally important for 4000+ years.)
Babylon - Similar to Hatussa / Mycenae.

You may've noticed most are concentrated around the Near East and the 'Fertile Crescent'. I'm trying to make a scenario and map of Civilization's Cradle from North Africa to Iran of thereabouts, and these are the citystates I was gonna litter all over the place. Big shout to Opera for great work.

 

[Lord Alderaan]

Angkor Wat (Cultured) - Actually Angkor Wat is just the (large) temple that was part of the huge Khmer capital called just Angkor.

 

[Lord Alderaan]

Moar (suggestions):

States that were subjugated to form different Chinese Dynasties:
Qi (Mil) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_(state)
Cao Wei (Mil) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cao_Wei

Culturally relevant Indian state:
Magadha (Cul) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadha

Successful Indonesian city states:
Malacca (Mar) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malacca_Sultanate
Palembang (Mar) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palembang

Island state eventually annexed by the US:
Hawaii (Mil) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Hawaii

 

[KidJustKid]

@Alderaan, looking through your suggestions and they pretty much all make sense. I think all the civs and city states were very modern and eurocentric focused.

 

[Lord Alderaan]

I'm reconsidering Cao Wei because it technically (after a coup) conquered the other Three Kingdoms era states and became the new (Jin) China.


I'd add Hong Kong to the suggestions because it is well known and has been a true city state for over a hundred years. Also Troy (technically in Asia) would be a nice addition