Songhai and Amina for me, since both are mostly revealed anyway.
Guessing Amina’s alternate persona interacts with an Exploration Age mechanic revealed in Thursday’s stream, else why wait for the first look for so long?
Given that the Leaders are age agnostic, I can’t imagine leader abilities will be too specific to an age. But I could see something generic like “Extra Great Work/Relic slot in Culture buildings”
I have the feeling that they might go with Lili'uokalani as leader, if Hawaii gets one. Kamehameha would most likely be another warmonger, while she could be more diplomatic/cultural.
This is my suspicion as well, though I still wouldn't be shocked to see Benito Juarez as a dark horse with Monty saved for DLC alongside the Aztecs (and K'inich Janaab' Pakal, please and thank you, without killing off the entire quetzal population to clothe him ).
I'd honestly be astonished. While the judgment is unfair, given her position, it's my understanding she's generally despised as a traitor to her people. Both the Maya and the Nahua (and, for that matter, Mexico itself) have better, less controversial candidates for female leaders.
That's an interesting theory, in particular the Ming part because, as there is unlikely to have another leader for the Chinese path as we got Confucius already, then chances are Ming is a civ announced with another civ in the same week, where the other civ is the one that has a associated leader.
That's an interesting theory, in particular the Ming part because, as there is unlikely to have another leader for the Chinese path as we got Confucius already, then chances are Ming is a civ announced with another civ in the same week, where the other civ is the one that has a associated leader.
It's possible, especially with leaders being divorced from their civs.
This is my suspicion as well, though I still wouldn't be shocked to see Benito Juarez as a dark horse with Monty saved for DLC alongside the Aztecs (and K'inich Janaab' Pakal, please and thank you, without killing off the entire quetzal population to clothe him ).
He was talking about México and Mesoamerica, not South America. Bolívar could be a good leader option to represent post-colonial Hispanic Northern South America (Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Perú, Bolivia and Panama), but a leader for Brazil and the Southern Cone of South America would be great as well, since Bolívar isn't representative of all of South America either. Also, I think there has to be some Native South America leader as well, probably from the Inca.
Che Guevara would be a very recent and controversial option for many people. There are lots of people in Latin America, specially in Cuba, who are still suffering the consequences of what he did and who still remember/suffer the consequences of the violence he instigated by supporting genocidal guerrillas and ilegal armed groups who have killed thousands of people. His actions have worsened the lives of many people he supposedly wanted to help, not the contrary. In the grand scope of things, he's just another selfish Latin American warlord who used a political ideology to justify his rise to power.
I think a better LatAm freedom fighter leader would be Tupac Amaru II, the guy who Tupac Shakur was named after. He attempted to overthrow the Spanish and reestablish the Inca empire.
As others have mentioned, super controversial choice, I'd be up for it, she is very much unjustly maligned.
I'm pretty sure now Aztecs, and a possible Monty are being saved for DLC, that would sell very well, unlike say Benito Jurez . I think Juarez or Zapata are the most likely candidates, maybe a young general Diaz (I also brough up Sor Juana Inez in another thread, but she is my darkhorse)
He was talking about México and Mesoamerica, not South America. Bolívar could be a good leader option to represent post-colonial Hispanic Northern South America (Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Perú, Bolivia and Panama), but a leader for Brazil and the Southern Cone of South America would be great as well, since Bolívar isn't representative of all of South America either. Also, I think there has to be some Native South America leader as well, probably from the Inca.
I think a better LatAm freedom fighter leader would be Tupac Amaru II, the guy who Tupac Shakur was named after. He attempted to overthrow the Spanish and reestablish the Inca empire.
There are plenty of indigenous leaders who could fit into this niche. I think a good non-indigenous option would be Toussaint Louverture. He was the leader of the Haitian Revolution, considered the most successful slave revolution.
There are plenty of indigenous leaders who could fit into this niche. I think a good non-indigenous option would be Toussaint Louverture. He was the leader of the Haitian Revolution, considered the most successful slave revolution.
I wouldnt mind seeing leaders like Túpac Amaru or Toussaint Louverture. Simon Bolivar is still my guess for Latin American leader if we only get one in the base game.
I was wondering if there is any chance we could see a modern civ or leader spoiled next week before the exploration ones are all done. Shawnee and Tecumseh were an era ahead (its pre order extras of course) and I don't recall if we got any exploration civs or leaders before Antiquity was done.
I bring this up because next week is the Mexican revolution memorial, it would be a good oportunity to reveal something related to Mexico , and I find the nonchalant way they "spoiled" Mexico in the last stream to maybe not be just a coincidence? (they could just hide that info easily, they've done it before)
of course this is all assuming it's a Mexican revolutionary leader and Firaxis is aware of the date.
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