Civ VII Weekly Reveal Guessing Thread

[Mr Jon of Cheam]

Also you are missing Qing.

Basically we get no more than 2 of Britain, Germany, Russia. (possibly only one if something like Ottomans is in)

I'm quite looking forward to the fallout when we find out who is missing.

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

By the way, what historical successor for Greece are we going to get? I assume Normans and Abbasids, because of their conquests of formerly Byzantine lands?

I'd guess Abbasids as also justified through the strong Greek presence in Egypt and the influence of Greek philosophers and mathematicians in the Arab world. The latter connection is explicitly called out in the Greece blurb in the Game Guide, so I'd guess that's the devs setting up the transition.

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

This may come off as naively optimistic, but I feel like the devs might be aware that a week of just Amina and Songhai might be disappointing. so I'll predict Hawaii and Liliuokalani this week, and that Majapahit will be an extra along with Songhai and Amina next week. That leaves about 9 weeks for 10 Modern civs if you don't count holidays that might alter the schedule, which feels pretty alright. Himiko/Majapahit is possible, but I expect her to get her First Look with Meiji Japan.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

This may come off as naively optimistic, but I feel like the devs might be aware that a week of just Amina and Songhai might be disappointing. so I'll predict Hawaii and Liliuokalani this week, and that Majapahit will be an extra along with Songhai and Amina next week. That leaves about 9 weeks for 10 Modern civs if you don't count holidays that might alter the schedule, which feels pretty alright. Himiko/Majapahit is possible, but I expect her to get her First Look with Meiji Japan.

Next week is Thanksgiving in the US, so I doubt they will have guides and FL on that Thursday, only Tuesday. So, only one civ and FL, if that civ has one.

This week: One civ/FL
Next week: One civ, maybe FL
1st week of December: the last Exploration civ, probably no FL for it and the first Modern civ and FL.

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

Next week is Thanksgiving in the US, so I doubt they will have guides and FL on that Thursday, only Tuesday.

I'd be rather thankful for civ news, personally, but a good point nonetheless.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I'd be rather thankful for civ news, personally, but a good point nonetheless.

Devs will be thankful for a break from crunch.

 

[Haig]

Has it been mentioned how many leaders are available on launch?

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

Has it been mentioned how many leaders are available on launch?

They've said it's more than any previous game's launch if you count personas.

 

[Krajzen]

They've said it's more than any previous game's launch

Wow that's fantastic and crazy! That means -

if you count personas.

Oh.

Well in this case we aren't really able to deduce a lot

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Wow that's fantastic and crazy! That means -



Oh.

Well in this case we aren't really able to deduce a lot

There's also a question of whether they meant all previous games (Civ 4 had 26 leaders in base) or previous games that had art-intensive, voice-acted leaders (Civ 6 with 20).

 

[Evolena]

Well in this case we aren't really able to deduce a lot

Assuming 5 personas (2x 2 DLC + Napoleon), and giving that we already have 9 leaders (8 with game guide + Amina who doesn't have a "surname") without personas + 3 with (2 revealed + Napoleon) + 2 with unknown persona status (Franklin, Himiko) for a total of 14 unique leaders (12 base game, 2 DLC / bonus) or 19 with the minimum set of personas, that still allows some level of deduction.

 

[chaosprophet]

It is worth noting that IIRC Firaxis already has two DLCs planned, with three civs each, and we got some vague info about Catherine the Great and Frederick being in the game - for me it sounds exactly like two DLCs devoted to two full evolutionary lines for Germany and Russia. For example Goths->HRE or "Teutons"->Germany and Slavs->Byzantium/Muscovy/idk->Russia.

Just a small correction, each DLC collection has 4 civs, not three.

I'm quite looking forward to the fallout when we find out who is missing.

While there will likely be an fallout with those 3 options having strong fanbases, I think ultimately the missing one will be the best served for those who care more about historical paths as would make sense it is added on the earlier dlcs with a better path.

Assuming 5 personas (2x 2 DLC + Napoleon), and giving that we already have 9 leaders (8 with game guide + Amina who doesn't have a "surname") without personas + 3 with (2 revealed + Napoleon) + 2 with unknown persona status (Franklin, Himiko) for a total of 14 unique leaders (12 base game, 2 DLC / bonus) or 19 with the minimum set of personas, that still allows some level of deduction.

I think 20 base game leaders (probably all unique?) seems a likely possibility, maybe all unique. which with the extras to be on release day would put it 27 on release day, beating civ 4.

 

[Timothy001]

I'm gonna guess Hawaiian Civ as this week's only reveal. As for FL, it will be Kamehameha I.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I'm gonna guess Hawaiian Civ as this week's only reveal. As for FL, it will be Kamehameha I.

Part of me expects Kamehameha, since he was the progenitor of the only major Hawaiian dynasty and he led the Polynesians in Civ 5, and therefore fits best in the Exploration Age.

But as Himiko shows, they don't necessarily have to match the time period of the associated civ. And we have plenty enough warmongers.

I think, perhaps, Lili'uokalani might be the choice. Not only was she the leader of her people, but a composer as well. We haven't seen a leader with a Great Works ability yet, and Great Works have been mentioned. She could have such an ability. (As could Friedrich, for the same reasons, I suppose)

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Assuming 5 personas (2x 2 DLC + Napoleon), and giving that we already have 9 leaders (8 with game guide + Amina who doesn't have a "surname") without personas + 3 with (2 revealed + Napoleon) + 2 with unknown persona status (Franklin, Himiko) for a total of 14 unique leaders (12 base game, 2 DLC / bonus) or 19 with the minimum set of personas, that still allows some level of deduction.

I'll admit that saying it will be the biggest launch of leaders, but counting extra personas as the leaders, wouldn't feel right. Twenty leaders (with five extra personas) to me would still be twenty leaders.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Im kind of okay with the personas. They are mechanically a different leader, but with the same face as another one. The main sticking point is that you don't want both in the same game, so they don't really expand the roster of potential adversaries by as much as a wholy different leader would.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Im kind of okay with the personas. They are mechanically a different leader, but with the same face as another one. The main sticking point is that you don't want both in the same game, so they don't really expand the roster of potential adversaries by as much as a wholy different leader would.

I agree with you, as in I enjoyed most of the personas in Civ 6. I just hope that when they announced there would be a lot of new leaders on launch that each extra persona wouldn't count as one of them.

 

[queenpea]

Part of me expects Kamehameha, since he was the progenitor of the only major Hawaiian dynasty and he led the Polynesians in Civ 5, and therefore fits best in the Exploration Age.

But as Himiko shows, they don't necessarily have to match the time period of the associated civ. And we have plenty enough warmongers.

I think, perhaps, Lili'uokalani might be the choice. Not only was she the leader of her people, but a composer as well. We haven't seen a leader with a Great Works ability yet, and Great Works have been mentioned. She could have such an ability. (As could Friedrich, for the same reasons, I suppose)

Lili'uokalani would be my choice as well. Fingers crossed.

 

[Jeppetto]

My guesses:
Tuesday Majapahit, Thursday Amina & Songhai, Tuesday Genghis Khan, Thursday Polynesian Leader & Hawaii.
1 unique district, 2 unique improvements.
2 unique infrantries, 1 unique ranged or 1 of each infantry, ranged, naval.
1 unique naval trader, 1 unique scholar or unique admiral-like great person, 1 unique missionary.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

1 unique naval trader, 1 unique scholar or unique admiral-like great person, 1 unique missionary.

We already know that Songhai will have a unique merchant.
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/songhai-exploration-age-civilization.691461/

I could see Majapahit getting a unique naval commander (I don't think one has been announced yet) and Hawaiii to get a unique settler which could traverse the oceans sooner than others.