Civilization is hitting the bottom!

[PieceOfMind]

You are missing some points:

1) Civilization can be played only by Steam, the other games, like EVE (someone uses this example) don't use Steam. And even if they are only the online players and are there are others playing offline, it is still indicative for a trend.

Yes, a trend that you will likely observe with every single video game. Except for the people who become hopelessly addicted to a game (which isn't a good thing) it's quite normal for people to eventually move on or at least play a game less frequently than when they had just bought it.

Really, this sort of trend is not some revelation.

2) It is constantly dropping, but it has a big difference with games like New Vegas, Civilization has a replayable value that some other games like New Vegas lack, so it's worrying that it has dropped so much in players. And i speak of a game dropping players so much only after two months from release...

Two months after release is not a very long time. I'm not playing civ5 lately but it's not because I've given up on it. I suspect a lot of people are doing the same. We're simply waiting for fixes/additions to be made to the game first. When a game is farily buggy at release (or when the first one or two patches introduce bugs ) like civ5, it's pretty rational as a player to just stop playing it until those annoying bugs are fixed.

So that's the point. You need to understand that Civiliation use Steam as a base to play, when other games not. It's a crucial evidence...

Evidence for what? That civ5 is a less popular game than other mass market games like Call of Duty or Football Manager?
I'm struggling to see what actual point you're trying to make here apart from the obvious trends that happen for every game.

 

[joasoze]

Interesting thread this. Just never bash Fotball Manager again It is possibly the most complex and advanced game ever created. It has been refined since the ealy 90ties (back then it was Championship Manager). When CM4 came a few years back, it sold over 2 million copies in UK alone and was the fastest selling computer game in the UK ever.

 

[Senethro]

Interesting thread this. Just never bash Fotball Manager again It is possibly the most complex and advanced game ever created. It has been refined since the ealy 90ties (back then it was Championship Manager). When CM4 came a few years back, it sold over 2 million copies in UK alone and was the fastest selling computer game in the UK ever.

Seriously. The lifetime sales of the Manager series can most certainly challenge those of Civilization, although having a new game most years will help!

 

[Louis XXIV]

I'm waiting for the patch before starting a new game. The next two weeks are hell anyway, so I'm not playing at all. Then, if the patch is still in the works, I'll play around with modding for a little bit.

 

[JLoZeppeli]

Football Manager is less popular than Civilization Pieceofmind, Football Manager is not an arcade game, but a fine management game, very complex (the streamlined one is Fifa Manager ).

If we speak of Football Games, we can say for sure that FIFA 11 or Pro Evo are very popular... But the same we cannot say for FM... It is becoming popular, thanks to the quality and the fanbase, mostly english to be honest...

Civilization is the most streamlined strategy game by the times of Civ II... And maybe one of the most popular... Try compare the sales of CIv IV with the sales of Football Manager 2005 and 2006...

On the other things about Steam, my statement was that if Steam is the only meter we can use to measure the players, because it's one of the few games that needs Steam to work, it's pretty disappoing the number of players.... Because Football Manager, as i said, does not use Steam to work, only the players that bought it on Steam need to use it... And so far it has more players (and we can assume that, like someone said about Civ V, other players are using it offline, or this silly statement counts only fo Civ??)....

 

[Artophwar]

Football Manager is less popular than Civilization Pieceofmind, Football Manager is not an arcade game, but a fine management game, very complex (the streamlined one is Fifa Manager ).

If we speak of Football Games, we can say for sure that FIFA 11 or Pro Evo are very popular... But the same we cannot say for FM... It is becoming popular, thanks to the quality and the fanbase, mostly english to be honest...

Civilization is the most streamlined strategy game by the times of Civ II... And maybe one of the most popular... Try compare the sales of CIv IV with the sales of Football Manager 2005 and 2006...

On the other things about Steam, my statement was that if Steam is the only meter we can use to measure the players, because it's one of the few games that needs Steam to work, it's pretty disappoing the number of players.... Because Football Manager, as i said, does not use Steam to work, only the players that bought it on Steam need to use it... And so far it has more players (and we can assume that, like someone said about Civ V, other players are using it offline, or this silly statement counts only fo Civ??)....

I dont understand how you can be disappointed by those numbers. Right now Civ 5 is back up to 4th most play game on steam. Only 10000 players behind just the counter strikes and COD black ops which they also require steam to play. I would be willing to bet money that the majority of people playing Football Manager are playing it on steam. Most people enjoy using steam for their games because of all the community features.

 

[PieceOfMind]

Ok, so your point is that you are disappointed with the number of people playing civ5.

Let me then offer up a statement of my own...
I'm surprised/impressed to see that even in civ5's buggy/unfinished state it manages to have such a large number of regular players.

 

[Sonereal]

Ok, so your point is that you are disappointed with the number of people playing civ5.

Let me then offer up a statement of my own...
I'm surprised/impressed to see that even in civ5's buggy/unfinished state it manages to have such a large number of regular players.

Again, I'm surprise CiV is even in the top 10.

 

[Tatran]

Fake statistics?

 

[RobAnybody]

Again, I'm surprise CiV is even in the top 10.

You expected Civ V to have fewer active users than Garry's Mod, the #10 game on that list?

"Garry's Mod is a physics sandbox. Unlike regular games there aren't any predefined aims or goals. We give you the tools and leave you to play. You spawn objects and weld them together to create your own contraptions - whether that's a car, a rocket, a catapult or something that doesn't have a name yet - that's up to you."

Well, you should be happy to know that Civ V has over 8,000 more users than Garry's Mod, so it's probably safe in the Top 10 for a while. At least until Garry makes another MOD, I suppose.

 

[Sonereal]

You expected Civ V to have fewer active users than Garry's Mod, the #10 game on that list?

"Garry's Mod is a physics sandbox. Unlike regular games there aren't any predefined aims or goals. We give you the tools and leave you to play. You spawn objects and weld them together to create your own contraptions - whether that's a car, a rocket, a catapult or something that doesn't have a name yet - that's up to you."

Well, you should be happy to know that Civ V has over 8,000 more users than Garry's Mod, so it's probably safe in the Top 10 for a while. At least until Garry makes another MOD, I suppose.

8000 more than Garry's Mod? Yes, I am surprised.

 

[PinkRose]

The real question is why do so many people play Football Manager?
It's not even about Football.

It's a Soccer game.

 

[Slowpoke]

Football is the european word for soccer

 

[Beef Hammer]

150,000 people still play a version of counter-strike everyday, including myself, now that's staying power.

 

[whb]

Football is the european word for soccer

I think you mean "soccer" is the American word for football!

 

[Louis XXIV]

Technically, it's Association Football. Soccer is short for Association (an abbreviation I doubt Americans would ever come up with, honestly, so I think it's something the British came up with and forgot about).

 

[charon2112]

Football is the european word for soccer

Actually Football is the word the entire world uses for soccer. It's only known as soccer in the US.

 

[RobAnybody]

The number of people that believe PinkRose's post was serious is depressing.

 

[jagdtigerciv]

Weird. I play in offline mode, mostly because my internet can be finicky and occasionally, friends may message me when i'm in my Civ zone. Also, I think it may be dropping (i'm not possibly trying to pretend this is the ONLY reason, but it may explain some drop) in that many players are waiting for the upcoming patch (which has been upcoming for sometime now) before starting a game. A single game in civ requires a decent amount of time investment, I know I haven't played civ for a few weeks now, not because I loathe it, but because i'm waiting for the patch before I put any time into a game.

 

[Louis XXIV]

Actually Football is the word the entire world uses for soccer. It's only known as soccer in the US.

Italians might disagree with you there.