Civilization is only for casuals and new gamers?!

It's fun to set your cities on hard-governor, rolling dice every four turns for a different administration to prioritize food/commerce/production, only to be military/foreign affairs consul and commander-in-chief, and write a fiction to post on here with screenshots of your game etc.

It's also fun to win on the hardest settings, min-maxing every detail and having a complete cognizant mastery of all aspects whilst victory is not assured.

And the most fun is multiplayer where you are so evenly matched but committed to the narrative game it feels like both.
 
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