[LP] Civilization VI: Leader Pass - Discussion Thread

[SecretWeapon]

And as for the Kleopatra - Greece discussion, gimme a break: if any post-Alexander Macedonian is going to get a shot at leading Greece, let it be the Diadochi (Successors) Antipater or Lysimachus, both of which actually ruled Greece. My choice would be Antipater, a student of Aristotle along with Alexander, executor of Aristotle's will, regent and later ruler of Greece. His agenda might be that he hates all female rulers - he spent most of his reign fighting with Alexander's mother, Olympia, who insisted on trying to run things despite him.

I think Minos would be better, he'd be a nice representative of minoan culture and he's probably amongst the most well known greek bronze era kings by accident.

 

[Lord Lakely]

I once dreamt there would be a Cretan Pirate Civ, led by Minos. Let the prophecy come true!

Although another Civ in that dream was Nauru, whose UU was a dolphin-riding Ukelele player that replaced the Rock band. So maybe don't copy everything my REM conjures up.

 

[Inawordyes]

I don't think this has been posted in here yet, saw it on Reddit and was a bit surprised that it wasn't. But we have a key art for the Great Negotiators pack specifically:

Not sure where it came from, but we've got a concept art now of how Saladin's persona design is gonna look

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I don't think this has been posted in here yet, saw it on Reddit and was a bit surprised that it wasn't. But we have a key art for the Great Negotiators pack specifically:

Not sure where it came from, but we've got a concept art now of how Saladin's persona design is gonna look

Not sure what to make of the giant pectoral disk (aka bling) but the helmet is on point.

They could rename this DLC "Great Hats"

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Not sure what to make of the giant pectoral disk (aka bling) but the helmet is on point.

They could rename this DLC "Great Hats"

But Suleiman the Magnificent isn't in this one.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Yes. I think they made it to where Cleo was more likely to have this agenda. Honestly, I might have been one of the few that didn't mind it.

Hannibal would probably just lead Phoenicia as an alt leader. You can't have a separate Carthage civilization and not being able to build a unique Cothon harbor.

Humankind gave Carthage a Cothon and Phoenicia a Haven, both unique harbors.. so....

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Humankind gave Carthage a Cothon and Phoenicia a Haven, both unique harbors.. so....

My point is a separate Carthage civilization wouldn't have a Cothon, which is the main thing they are known for building, because Phoenicia would already have it.

Phoenicia is basically the Carthage civilization from previous games anyway, so no need to make a separate Carthage one. Hannibal would work fine as an alt leader for Phoenicia.

 

[Linklite]

Yes. I think they made it to where Cleo was more likely to have this agenda. Honestly, I might have been one of the few that didn't mind it.

It was before I got the game, but I don't think I objected to it. I didn't see how it was implemented, what the phrases were etc, so maybe it was worse than the impression I got

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

It was before I got the game, but I don't think I objected to it. I didn't see how it was implemented, what the phrases were etc, so maybe it was worse than the impression I got

I do think there was also one for male leaders disliking female leaders. That was probably the main one that got backlash, so both were removed.

 

[Henri Christophe]

They could rename this DLC "Great Hats"

The history of human kind can be telled by it's hats

 

[Niallism]

I do think there was also one for male leaders disliking female leaders. That was probably the main one that got backlash, so both were removed.

There was 'Flirtatious', which liked the opposite sex and disliked the same sex, and 'Curmudgeon', which disliked the opposite sex and liked the same sex.

There wasn't anything specific to male/female, and there wasn't anything relating to Cleopatra.

My experience was that people were pointing out that the agendas were inflexible - they were essentially a random like/dislike that you couldn't do anything about. Whatever 'backlash' I experienced was about the gameplay problem that presented.

 

[DeutschDachs]

Honestly inflexible agendas don't seem like the worst mechanic. Sometimes folks just don't get along and there's nothing you can do about it. Makes for a good rivalry in my opinion.

Like although agendas didn't exist in Civ V, you knew Attila's MO was to wipe everyone off the face of the planet. And you had to play around that

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

There was 'Flirtatious', which liked the opposite sex and disliked the same sex, and 'Curmudgeon', which disliked the opposite sex and liked the same sex.

There wasn't anything specific to male/female, and there wasn't anything relating to Cleopatra.

My experience was that people were pointing out that the agendas were inflexible - they were essentially a random like/dislike that you couldn't do anything about. Whatever 'backlash' I experienced was about the gameplay problem that presented.

Thanks, I didn't remember the specifics.
I do remember them making "Flirtatious" more likely to show up as Cleopatra's hidden agenda when they released it, however.

 

[Linklite]

Honestly inflexible agendas don't seem like the worst mechanic. Sometimes folks just don't get along and there's nothing you can do about it. Makes for a good rivalry in my opinion.

Sure, although I think it works better when the personality is complex, so they end up having biases against (or for) you to varying degrees, rather than "you picked the wrong leader so I'm going to burn your cities and salt your fields".

Unfortunately, Civ 6 isn't complex enough for that.

 

[Metalz]

But Suleiman the Magnificent isn't in this one.

They should make a Leader Pass 2 section featuring exclusively Ottoman leaders and call it... "Great Onions"

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

When asked about First Looks, the Civ Twitter says "Very Soon *winky face*"

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

When asked about First Looks, the Civ Twitter says "Very Soon *winky face*"

Yep, that's Firaxis for ya.

 

[King William I]

When asked about First Looks, the Civ Twitter says "Very Soon *winky face*"

"Very soon?" What a complete departure from their normal cryptic responses. My guess is sometime within the next two hours.

 

[DWilson]

England?
They have Eleanor, Victoria, the LP adds two more, who am I missing?

John Curtin, Wilfred Laurier, Teddy Roosevelt (x2), and Abe Lincoln

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

They should make a Leader Pass 2 section featuring exclusively Ottoman leaders and call it... "Great Onions"

Along with "Chinese Dynasties", "Macedonian Legacy" and "United Kingdom" for even more Chinese, Greek/Macedonian, and English/Scottish leaders.