[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

[Thenewwwguy]

this is why the remaining new frontier civs should be Albania, Byzantium, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia and Austria.

The Balkans just aren’t filled up enough

 

[Kimiimaro]

this is why the remaining new frontier civs should be Albania, Byzantium, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia and Austria.

The Balkans just aren’t filled up enough

Why Yugoslavia? Just include Serbia and then have room for Croatia, Montenegro and Bosnia in another pack. With Wallachia, of course, and alt-leader to Ottomans

 

[Josephias]

Why Yugoslavia? Just include Serbia and then have room for Croatia, Montenegro and Bosnia in another pack. With Wallachia, of course, and alt-leader to Ottomans

Moldova and, specially, Transnistria would be great too! In a pack with the Kievan Rus.

 

[Hans Castorp]

Moldova and, specially, Transnistria would be great too! In a pack with the Kievan Rus.

This Balkan love is all very well, but what I want to know is when will Liechtenstein, Luxemburg, San Marino and Andorra get their day in the sun?

 

[AvianBritish]

Why Yugoslavia? Just include Serbia and then have room for Croatia, Montenegro and Bosnia in another pack. With Wallachia, of course, and alt-leader to Ottomans

Give Matthias a "Persona pack" too so they can give him a science bonus too like the devs said they wanted to give him instead of war. Lol

This Balkan love is all very well, but what I want to know is when will Liechtenstein, Luxemburg, San Marino and Andorra get their day in the sun?

I would love to have San Marino as a city state that gives some sort of bonus to mountains!

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Give Matthias a "Persona pack" too so they can give him a science bonus too like the devs said they wanted to give him instead of war. Lol

I honestly wouldn't mind this especially with his geothermal fissure bias.
Though the library bonuses would tread on Kristina already, and possibly for Assyria or Babylon.

With all this talk of the Balkans, Vlad Tepes would be a big personality.

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

In a game with four Greek rulers and potentially the Byzantines on the way, I don't think the Balkans are remotely underrepresented. The Balkans may be the single most over represented slice of the map.

More like greeks are overrepresented rather than Balkans in general.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

More like greeks are overrepresented rather than Balkans in general.

And yet people want a Greek/Macedonian leader for the Byzantines instead of Justinian, though Theodora was Greek Cypriot.
I don't mind either one.

 

[PhoenicianGold]

I honestly wouldn't mind this especially with his geothermal fissure bias.
Though the library bonuses would tread on Kristina already, and possibly for Assyria or Babylon.

With all this talk of the Balkans, Vlad Tepes would be a big personality.

If Korea is a science civ, then Bulgaria would be a good option for a unique library.

Vlad was a big personality with no real kingdom or empire to speak of. I think he would be a really fun mod project but Romania just doesn't have a strong history as a unified state compared to surrounding options.

More like greeks are overrepresented rather than Balkans in general.

Yeah I'm still quite surprised at how no one seems to care that the Balkans comprise mostly Slavic peoples and Bulgaria quite comfortably encompassed all of them at one point and represents several milestones in South Slavic identity. Like Colombia representing Venezuela, Panama, and Ecuador (or Hungary repping Bohemia, Austria, and Croatia), it really is the perfect Balkan civ.

EDIT: Also, now that Bolivar is in the game (thanks to the precedent set by Alexander and Matthias), I think I may have come around to Zenobia. If civs have been generally tied to modern nationalism and Sumeria is kind of filling in for Iraq and Kuwait, then I would prefer something representing Syria or Armenia before we got Babylon or Assyria. And Zenobia's surge, sputter, and national legacy in Syria are of a very similar nature to Bolivar or Corvinus (or Alexander for that matter). I am now pro-Palmyra guys.

 

[Zaarin]

And yet people want a Greek/Macedonian leader for the Byzantines instead of Justinian, though Theodora was Greek Cypriot.
I don't mind either one.

There were a number of Byzantine emperors who were Armenian. Herakleios or Romanos I Lekapenos wouldn't be horrible choices.

 

[Navelgazer]

I know they did it in Civ5 already but I still believe Assyria to be the best for for a Library replacement among the likely still-missing civs. (Babylon's libraries were really a product of the Assyrian age of Babylon, and the ones that existed before that were imitating the ones in proto-Assyrian Chaldea.) I don't know how it would best work mechanically that would be different from Civ5's Royal Library, but there are a lot of different avenues one could take with it.

Also, and this might just need to be a mod, but I think it would be delightful for Leaders to have some special dialog for when they meet certain other specific leaders, such as Ashurbanipal telling Gilgamesh, "Yes, I believe I've read about you..."

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I know they did it in Civ5 already but I still believe Assyria to be the best for for a Library replacement among the likely still-missing civs. (Babylon's libraries were really a product of the Assyrian age of Babylon, and the ones that existed before that were imitating the ones in proto-Assyrian Chaldea.) I don't know how it would best work mechanically that would be different from Civ5's Royal Library, but there are a lot of different avenues one could take with it.

If the library would be for Assyria the best way to implement it is it provides production toward units when not filled with a Great Work of Writing, while producing more science than a regular library. At least Ashurbanipal used war as a means to gaining works for his library.

 

[Navelgazer]

"Units trained in a city with a Royal Library grant Great Writer points when attacking districts."

 

[Jeppetto]

"Blond-haired Prince Charming Totally-Not-a-Scalawag John Smith leads the Powhatan in Walt Disney's Civilization VI..." I guess we already have Aurora leading the French/English and Maui leading the Maori, so why not?

Pacha also leads Inca

I don't mean it as any slight against Poland. I'd just be surprised to see both Poland and Bohemia, and I'd like to see Bohemia have its day in the sun. It's got a really interesting history and a handful of good leader choices. Maybe not as leader, but I'd love to see them incorporate Hus and Hussitism in some manner.

In some manner? Any manner? Got it. *adds burning as religious action*
Can't remember the precise wording of a joke from one czech show, but it went something like:
,,So how is your stay in heaven Ján Hus?"
,,There's this dumbass, constantly looking at me with grin, provocatively shaking matches."

Ethiopia's at least a little ways away on YnAEMP. I've honestly never met Cleopatra in a TSL game with Nubia in it; she never survives that long.

You're not missing aynthing, when she does survive and there's noone on the continent, she just takes the entire continent and turns it into mess of sphynx and seaside resorts. Lovely vacation. Wherever you look, there's either Sphynx or a Seaside Resort. Don't know what they eat or where do they have materials for production from, but hey, man. Sphynx and seaside resorts.

this is why the remaining new frontier civs should be Albania, Byzantium, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia and Austria.

The Balkans just aren’t filled up enough

Why these when you can upgrade the controversy from Macedon being included and spice it up with Kosovo and Montenegro being their own Civs. Yey.

Also, and this might just need to be a mod, but I think it would be delightful for Leaders to have some special dialog for when they meet certain other specific leaders, such as Ashurbanipal telling Gilgamesh, "Yes, I believe I've read about you..."

Eleanor meeting Eleanor would be trippy.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Pacha also leads Inca

I see Kronk.
Oh and Reyna is definitely Yzma.

Speaking of possible new civilizations I know this has been pointed at before but the flags of certain nations in the Diplomatic Victory Screen have not appeared in the game as playable, but some as city-states. With the release of Gran Colombia, it probably means Argentina won't happen which backs up the theory that the flags shown in the video probably won't make it in as playable in the future.

That means probably they have decided ahead of time that Mexico, Nigeria, Kenya, Thailand, Argentina, South Africa, Iceland, Kazakhstan, Czech Republic, Papua New Guinea, Morocco and Sri Lanka won't appear.
That opens up the room at least in the case of Morocco and Thailand that a Berber kingdom could appear like Numidia or Vietnam or Burma for SE Asia.

 

[Navelgazer]

Eleanor meeting Eleanor would be trippy.

"Why hello, Beautiful..."

 

[Zaarin]

Why these when you can upgrade the controversy from Macedon being included and spice it up with Kosovo and Montenegro being their own Civs. Yey.

No, we need more confusion. Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia or bust.

 

[The Kingmaker]

No, we need more confusion. Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia or bust.

They actually resolved that long naming dispute.

The FYROM is officially the Republic of North Macedonia now.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

I honestly wouldn't mind this especially with his geothermal fissure bias.
Though the library bonuses would tread on Kristina already, and possibly for Assyria or Babylon.

With all this talk of the Balkans, Vlad Tepes would be a big personality.

did matthias actually have some historical precedent for being scientific?

 

[Zaarin]

They actually resolved that long naming dispute.

The FYROM is officially the Republic of North Macedonia now.

Yeah, I heard about that, but if we're going to start stuffing the game with every tiny Slavic nation in the Balkans, we might as well maximize the controversy.