SammyKhalifa
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yeah bcs Assyria was less addicted to ziggurats compared to babylon as well there’s more room for a UI.I reluctantly agree, though I'd also argue that if we can have both Greece and Rome, we can have both Babylon and Assyria, as their cultural relationship was very similar. (However, I agree that if we can only have one in Civ6, I would actually prefer Assyria to Babylon--as long as its a cultural/builder-focused Assyria rather than a hyper-militant Assyria; Gilgabro has that niche covered just fine.)
Considering Babylon has never had ziggurats as a UI I don't think that would be a problem. Good thing we already have a unique wall though.yeah bcs Assyria was less addicted to ziggurats compared to babylon as well there’s more room for a UI.
Something like the astronomy house in Humankind would be a lot more aesthetically pleasing than a wall that you will barely look at for the entirety of the gameConsidering Babylon has never had ziggurats as a UI I don't think that would be a problem. Good thing we already have a unique wall though.
At the same time I'm not sure how a unique ancient wall would work, especially since it would have to be replaced.
astronomy house seems pretty overlapping with observatorySomething like the astronomy house in Humankind would be a lot more aesthetically pleasing than a wall that you will barely look at for the entirety of the game
an ‘Ishtar Gate’ ancient wall building could maybe give more tourism or buff archaeologists later on, and function as regular ancient walls until thenConsidering Babylon has never had ziggurats as a UI I don't think that would be a problem. Good thing we already have a unique wall though.
At the same time I'm not sure how a unique ancient wall would work, especially since it would have to be replaced.
Why not a tablet house which can hold Great works of Writing and produce more science than a regular library?astronomy house seems pretty overlapping with observatory
I think if they went with giving them stronger walls, it would feel more indicative of a civ ability. Ancient walls can get the strength of Medieval walls, Medieval have Renaissance strength etc.an ‘Ishtar Gate’ ancient wall building could maybe give more tourism or buff archaeologists later on, and function as regular ancient walls until then
yeah that wall ability would be good, and a tablet library make more sense for assyria imo bcs Ashurbanipal’s libraryWhy not a tablet house which can hold Great works of Writing and produce more science than a regular library?
I think if they went with giving them stronger walls, it would feel more indicative of a civ ability. Ancient walls can get the strength of Medieval walls, Medieval have Renaissance strength etc.
I think a Tablet House could possibly work for either one of them. Considering we don't have a unique library building yet, either one seems the best candidate, since the Maya already took over the role of Ancient astronomer made the whole Observatory a district.yeah that wall ability would be good, and a tablet library make more sense for assyria imo bcs Ashurbanipal’s library
Why not a tablet house which can hold Great works of Writing and produce more science than a regular library?
I think if they went with giving them stronger walls, it would feel more indicative of a civ ability. Ancient walls can get the strength of Medieval walls, Medieval have Renaissance strength etc.
The new Civs won't have any features that coincide with the expansions, so nothing will directly have anything to do with Diplomatic victory. The closest thing in the vanilla version would be becoming the suzerain of city-states, but I can't see them doing that. Maybe conquering them.weren't the assyrians known for having diplomats all over the bronze age civilizations as well? I could see assyria as being included as part of diplomatic victory overhaul. i know this is way more unlikely than them being a militaristic or even scientific civ but I think, and this is just pure speculation, that they will be releasing the new civs that synergize with the preceding month's balance changes. So for example, I think Ethiopia will have a religious focus to go with this month's balance changes. Kind of makes sense to me from a marketing and gameplay balance viewpoint.
That's different from her unique ability's and infrastructure. I'm suggesting the walls act like Persia's roads being more advanced when built, maybe even having "ancient walls" starting once you found your city, and they won't necessarily be faster at building them.Queen Tamar respects your Georgian Spirit but does not appreciate you stealing one of her unique abilities
As I said in another thread, Sargon and his Akkadians were culturally Sumerian; they wouldn't make sense to have in the same game as Sumer--except perhaps as an alternate leader for Sumer--except that our Sumer is 100% Gilgamesh.What would be the chances that they throw in Sargon of the Akkadian Empire to satisfy both the Babylonian and Assyrian camps?
Besides most of the time when Assyria went to send diplomats it was meant to ask the people to submit to their rule peacefully, or prepare for war. Not necessarily the most peaceful diplomatic approach to victory.
Considering the Akkadian Empire split into the regions of Babylonia in the south and Assyria in the north, with primarily Akkadian speaking language, I thought it could work.As I said in another thread, Sargon and his Akkadians were culturally Sumerian; they wouldn't make sense to have in the same game as Sumer--except perhaps as an alternate leader for Sumer--except that our Sumer is 100% Gilgamesh.Also Sargon wouldn't really be a stand-in for both as he was chiefly a culture hero for the Assyrians.
I was going to say isn't that basically what a delegation is but then again Mongolia already has that ability so sending envoys to other civilizations could work.Assyrian CUA: Prepare to war - you can send Envoys to other civilizations as well as city-States. Each Envoy in another civilization give +3 Combat Strength against this civilization.
Assuryian UI: Tablet House - Replace the Library. Each Great Work of Writing in this city produce +1 Science and +1 Envoy Point.
There was another period of rule by Sumerian-speaking dynasties after Sargon. His empire was more of a spiritual predecessor to Assyria than a nascent form of Babylo-Assyria. The location of Agade is unknown, and it was not an important city in Babylon or Assyria.Considering the Akkadian Empire split into the regions of Babylonia in the south and Assyria in the north, with primarily Akkadian speaking language, I thought it could work.
i don’t think the former is possible under civ mechanics.Assyrian CUA: Prepare to war - you can send Envoys to other civilizations as well as city-States. Each Envoy in another civilization give +3 Combat Strength against this civilization.
Assuryian UI: Tablet House - Replace the Library. Each Great Work of Writing in this city produce +1 Science and +1 Envoy Point.
i don’t think the former is possible under civ mechanics.