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What about neither too early and therefore too Roman, nor postSiegeof Constantinople *? Here's a couple of ideas for a Byzantium Civ, one for Vanilla the other for GS:
Vanilla:
- John II Komnenos and Anna Komnene lead Byzantium. Regardless of which leader you choose at the selection screen, you may change leader every time you enter a new Era.
GS:
- John II Komnenos and Anna Komnene lead Byzantium. Regardless of which leader you choose at the selection screen, you may change leader every time you enter a new Era. Entering a Dark Age always forces the leader to switch.
OR
- Alexios I Komnenos leads Byzantium. Anna Komnene is added to the game as a Great Writer. Whichever Civ earns Anna Komnene gets The Alexiad Great Work plus Anna Komnene as unique governor.
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Edit: * I meant the sack of 1204, not the siege of 1453.
Well I'm generally against the dual leader gimmick anyway that people have proposed with the Trungs or Justinian/Theodora. Seems to have diminishing returns as they don't represent different periods/polities, and otherwise dilutes the idea that leaders are supposed to personify their culture and provide a consistent AI "personality" to play against. Not to mention, I don't see why Vietnam or Byzantium are special enough to merit such a gimmick when half of the existing civs were, at some point, governed by multiple influential people.
Also, governors and dark ages were added in R&F, though the distinction between R&F and GS here is somewhat meaningless.
I think I like the last idea the best, Alexios and Anna as a GW.
I immediately imagine a mechanic twist like that for the Trung sisters for Vietnam. You get forced to switch with the other twin once the one you originally had leads your civ to a dark age.
This is precisely the problem I have with the Trung sisters being a gimmicky dual leader. They have a lot of resonance because people have this stupid preconception in their head that Asian sisters are to some extent "Siamese twins," even if not attached at the hip. A sexy two-for-one if you're looking to have a good time.
This is problematic on two fronts, one because it is impliedly racist because Vietnam is not Siam. And two, because there are many people who are quick to presume or misunderstand that the Trung sisters do not, in fact, fit that orientalist fantasy. They were not twins.
I see the Trung sisters gimmick as trying to force them into kind of a racist box. However, I think if any civ would show off a unique governor well, I think Trung Nhi is more deserving of a prominent secondary role than most of the other proposed dual leader couplings.
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