[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

[PhoenicianGold]

Day 1000 of asking for Chola in civ

Something something Bulgaria.

 

[Jeppetto]

Day 1000 of asking Native Americans Blob Civ.

 

[Henri Christophe]

Day 1000 of asking Native Americans Blob Civ.

That is the worst civ ever, please don't

 

[Abaxial]

Actually it would make sense to get rid of ALL the existing civs - no more France, Japan etc - and replace them with Elfland, Dwarfland, Gnomeland etc. Then no-one can complain that anything is historically inaccurate, and the vampires and zombies will fit right in. Also I think that the devs will enjoy themselves much more.

 

[DWilson]

Actually it would make sense to get rid of ALL the existing civs - no more France, Japan etc - and replace them with Elfland, Dwarfland, Gnomeland etc. Then no-one can complain that anything is historically inaccurate, and the vampires and zombies will fit right in. Also I think that the devs will enjoy themselves much more.

I know this is not serious, but devs, please keep in mind that a fantasy side game is a good idea (see endless legends popularity), but a strong historical game is the heart of the fans, and that's the reason several of the game modes have got an underwhelming response.

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

That is the worst civ ever, please don't

There are worse options, so not the worst Civ ever, but one of them.

Also, asking the devs for a Wallachia-Moldavia duo.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I'm sure it's been over 1000 days of me asking for Italy.

Actually it would make sense to get rid of ALL the existing civs - no more France, Japan etc - and replace them with Elfland, Dwarfland, Gnomeland etc. Then no-one can complain that anything is historically inaccurate, and the vampires and zombies will fit right in. Also I think that the devs will enjoy themselves much more.

We already have them: Elfland is Maori, or maybe Vietnam now if elves ride elephants?, Dwarfland is Gaul, Inca is the land of Giants.

 

[Evie]

Maori is the Sea Elves, Vietnam the wood elves, France the high Elves (all those fancy fairy tale chateau and wonders), and Georgia is the Gondor clone.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Maori is the Sea Elves, Vietnam the wood elves, France the high Elves (all those fancy fairy tale chateau and wonders), and Georgia is the Gondor clone.

Not to mention that Norway is the Sea Elves that decided to become pirates and Germany is the Isengard clone.

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

Not to mention that Norway is the Sea Elves that decided to become pirates and Germany is the Isengard clone.

Wouldn't they be either the Corsairs of Umbar or the Harradrim?

 

[PhoenicianGold]

Wouldn't they be either the Corsairs of Umbar or the Harradrim?

They could be the Corsairs, or if Scythia is Rohan then the Norse could be Sea-Rohan (at least based on the movies' art design).

India, Khmer, and Vietnam are Harad, because they have oliphants.

 

[Zaarin]

Arabia is book Harad. In the book the Haradrim were chiefly cavalry, and they had a decidedly Middle Eastern/North African flavor. That would make the Ottomans the Corsairs of Umbar, and Egypt would be the Easterlings/Men of Rhûn with their chariots.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Wouldn't they be either the Corsairs of Umbar or the Harradrim?

Well I've never heard of them, or if I did I don't remember. I took a Tolkein class in college and watched the movies which is the extent of my knowledge.
This conversation is getting too LOTR heavy, which means it time for me to dip.

I only mention Sea Elven pirates because of the Stave Church getting bonuses for woods, not knowing if there are even elven pirates in Middle Earth at all.

 

[Zaarin]

I took a Tolkein class in college

So jealous! I took a speculative fiction class in college, but my professor said upfront that we wouldn't be touching Tolkien because he was just too big a topic.

not knowing if there are even elven pirates in Middle Earth at all.

There are not, not even in the First Age--neither Morgoth nor Sauron were much for ships.

 

[Andrew Johnson [FXS]]

So jealous! I took a speculative fiction class in college, but my professor said upfront that we wouldn't be touching Tolkien because he was just too big a topic.


There are not, not even in the First Age--neither Morgoth nor Sauron were much for ships.

Umbar was settled, I think, by Numenoreans who had strayed, if I remember right.

If I taught Tolkein, I might teach it alongside a course on nationalism, the creation of national epics, Romantic literature, and Norse epics. We'd read Handler, Hobsbawm and Ranger, as well as a heavy dose of Le Guin (who is a more out-of-the-box thinker on such things).

 

[Zaarin]

Umbar was settled, I think, by Numenoreans who had strayed, if I remember right.

Indeed, though it was probably settled by Harad first; Umbar has no etymology either in Adûnaic nor in Sindarin.

If I taught Tolkein, I might teach it alongside a course on nationalism, the creation of national epics, Romantic literature, and Norse epics. We'd read Handler, Hobsbawm and Ranger, as well as a heavy dose of Le Guin (who is a more out-of-the-box thinker on such things).

That would be a fascinating class. Le Guin is another author I love, though I've only read a handful of her books. Her prose is exquisite, and I especially love her use of folktales in The Left Hand of Darkness.

 

[Menocchio]

Umbar was settled, I think, by Numenoreans who had strayed, if I remember right.

If I taught Tolkein, I might teach it alongside a course on nationalism, the creation of national epics, Romantic literature, and Norse epics. We'd read Handler, Hobsbawm and Ranger, as well as a heavy dose of Le Guin (who is a more out-of-the-box thinker on such things).

I also took a course on Lord of the Rings, but rather than a literature course it was under the umbrella philosophy/theology - from Aristotle to Aquinas to Heidegger - which naturally gives me the bias of considering it the best approach to Tolkien!

 

[Hakan-i Cihan]

Is this heading towards a "Lord of the Rings-Civ" spinoff...???

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Is this heading towards a "Lord of the Rings-Civ" spinoff...???

I'd rather an "Age of Mythology" spinoff.

 

[Zaarin]

Is this heading towards a "Lord of the Rings-Civ" spinoff...???

No, because the book rights are a mess which means it would probably only be based on the films, and who wants that?