Could the US capture Europe?

[Grisu]

No, i was LOLing because "Schweitzer" sounded arkward for me in english,

of course, it sounds awkward if it's spelt wrong , we weren't founded by Albert Schweitzer, you know

Thanks, but the word i searched for was "Schweitzer", person/citizen or man from Switzerland!? Hmm, it's still Swiss, isn't it?

as Mise said, the englisch for "Schweizer" (or Schwyzer) is just Swiss

So still not much support for the EU on the other side of the border?

not really, at the moment support is even getting smaller...around here in Basel and in the french part there's probably still a small majority in favour of the EU, but the more conservative areas would firmly reject it...

 

[nc-1701]

Have to quote myself, edited to slow....

"They could nuke a split in the continental crust between Europe and Russia and then blockade the waterway. So we don't get oil, gas, ore, wood, food, tanks and other weapons and everything we could ever need from Russia and China. After that they do the same to SaudiArabia and tow it with superhuman NAVY SEALS through the Pacific and dock it on the east coast."

We could blockade the ports of Denmark, the UK, the Meditteranean, and of course the Bospurus. We could easily keep the ME and Saudi Arabia away from you under our thumb. Russia may assist you though I doubt it they would be more likely to just sit back and watch maybe grab some more territory near the end. The blockade won't be total but it could severly restrict your economy giving us a strategic advantage.

@Ziggys Russia yes but I'm not sure they'd help you... Norway also yes but if we blockade the Baltic how are you going to transport it? Remember oil pipelines are the first thing we'ed bomb.

 

[GinandTonic]

Because we would let you potter through the straights of Gibraltar like you were popping out for the sunday papers.

To get through a surface ship you would need 100% naval and air superiority, which you havnt explained how you would get.

 

[nc-1701]

Because we would let you potter through the straights of Gibraltar like you were popping out for the sunday papers.

To get through a surface ship you would need 100% naval and air superiority, which you havnt explained how you would get.

FYI blockades are usualy made up of submarines. besides are 12 carriers can carry about 960 aircraft plenty for a temorary air superiority over a small area.

 

[thetrooper]

Okay I leave the giggles behind for now.

On a more serious note - how many hours would it take for US troops to cross the Atlantic?

 

[GinandTonic]

FYI blockades are usualy made up of submarines. besides are 12 carriers can carry about 960 aircraft plenty for a temorary air superiority over a small area.

If your entire fleet is there, then our entire - land based - airforce can be there in addition to whatever naval forces are to hand. Therefore you would be outnumbered by a superior number of superior fighters with superior intel. And your plan is to sail up to a naval fortress? Cool, makes for a quicker battle.

 

[BaneBlade]

of course, it sounds awkward if it's spelt wrong , we weren't founded by Albert Schweitzer, you know


as Mise said, the englisch for "Schweizer" (or Schwyzer) is just Swiss


not really, at the moment support is even getting smaller...around here in Basel and in the french part there's probably still a small majority in favour of the EU, but the more conservative areas would firmly reject it...

Uh, yeah, shame on me and my apologies to all "Schweizer".

 

[nc-1701]

If your entire fleet is there, then our entire - land based - airforce can be there in addition to whatever naval forces are to hand. Therefore you would be outnumbered by a superior number of superior fighters with superior intel. And your plan is to sail up to a naval fortress? Cool, makes for a quicker battle.

Well if you put everyhing there then our aircraft will use in air refueling to hit northern Eroupe.

 

[BaneBlade]

Have to quote myself, edited to slow....

"They could nuke a split in the continental crust between Europe and Russia and then blockade the waterway. So we don't get oil, gas, ore, wood, food, tanks and other weapons and everything we could ever need from Russia and China. After that they do the same to SaudiArabia and tow it with superhuman NAVY SEALS through the Pacific and dock it on the east coast."

We could blockade the ports of Denmark, the UK, the Meditteranean, and of course the Bospurus. We could easily keep the ME and Saudi Arabia away from you under our thumb. Russia may assist you though I doubt it they would be more likely to just sit back and watch maybe grab some more territory near the end. The blockade won't be total but it could severly restrict your economy giving us a strategic advantage.

@Ziggys Russia yes but I'm not sure they'd help you... Norway also yes but if we blockade the Baltic how are you going to transport it? Remember oil pipelines are the first thing we'ed bomb.

Russia wouldn't have to assist us, we're only talking business here. They take our money now, they would take our money then. Infact, they will become part of the "europeon freetrade zone", though i don't know if there is an exact timeline until when the process shall finish.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Well if you put everyhing there then our aircraft will use in air refueling to hit northern Eroupe.

The thing is, in real world war, you can't go: Oh that doesn't work? Lost my fleet. Damn, ok we didn't do that ... we're going to use in-air refueling. *Loads last auto-save*

 

[BaneBlade]

Well if you put everyhing there then our aircraft will use in air refueling to hit northern Eroupe.

To hit WHAT, goddamn?
Allies needed the biggest bomberfleet build, an unsinkable gigantic carrier near the coast(GB) and years of total air superiority to ONLY HAMPER the production of war materials in Germany.

 

[nc-1701]

The thing is, in real world war, you can't go: Oh that doesn't work? Lost my fleet. Damn, ok we didn't do that ... we're going to use in-air refueling. *Loads last auto-save*

Of course the idea is we send a massive attack and hit you everywhere simontaneusly. Then you have to split up your forces and we crush the base at Girbralter. Or if you don't split up then our carriers fall back while our jets pummel an unprotected northern Eroupe. Then if you ever shift back your planes to the north then our carriers attack. The point is Eroupe is to big to defend properly.

Course Russia would still sell you basic resources but I'm not sure they sell you ready made weapon systems during the war.

 

[thetrooper]

In air refueling seems to be the trump card these days.

 

[garric]

There are some who hold an idealized view of Europe, as if the cultural and military superiority from the 1800's somehow continued and wasn't neutered in the 20th century... Too bad the United State would never invade Europe, so they will never learn the truth.

 

[Ingvina Freyr]

Of course the idea is we send a massive attack and hit you everywhere simontaneusly. Then you have to split up your forces and we crush the base at Girbralter. Or if you don't split up then our carriers fall back while our jets pummel an unprotected northern Eroupe. Then if you ever shift back your planes to the north then our carriers attack. The point is Eroupe is to big to defend properly.

Course Russia would still sell you basic resources but I'm not sure they sell you ready made weapon systems during the war.

Wow, what a plan! You should be working at the Pentagon. One question though... If USA attacks the EU everywhere at the same time, the US forces would be rather split-up themselves wouldn't you say.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Of course the idea is we send a massive attack and hit you everywhere simontaneusly. Then you have to split up your forces and we crush the base at Girbralter. Or if you don't split up then our carriers fall back while our jets pummel an unprotected northern Eroupe. Then if you ever shift back your planes to the north then our carriers attack. The point is Eroupe is to big to defend properly.

Course Russia would still sell you basic resources but I'm not sure they sell you ready made weapon systems during the war.

Would 'hitting everywhere simultanously' mean you would have to split your forces as well?

The point is Europe is too big to conquer properly

There are some who hold an idealized view of Europe, as if the cultural and military superiority from the 1800's somehow continued and wasn't neutered in the 20th century... Too bad the United State would never invade Europe, so they will never learn the truth.

Ha! You can't handle the truth

 

[nc-1701]

Wow, what a plan! You should be working at Pentagon. One question though... If USA attacks the EU everywhere at the same time, the US forces would be rather split-up themselves wouldn't you say.

Yes of course but our long range and in air refueling abilities make it so we don't have to show where we are going to attack. So you have to guard everthing when we will only hit one or two places very hard.

 

[Princeps]

There are some who hold an idealized view of Europe, as if the cultural and military superiority from the 1800's somehow continued and wasn't neutered in the 20th century...

No, I think many Europeans are being realistic here.

Too bad the United State would never invade Europe, so they will never learn the truth.

Too bad?

What?

You want a war that would have the potential to destroy every single human being on earth?

EDIT: Also, remove my quote from your sig. It is take out of context. I was refering to the US/Israeli - Palestine conflict. In this conflict, US is responsible for sponsoring the crimes that I mentioned.

 

[garric]

Wow, what a plan! You should be working at the Pentagon. One question though... If USA attacks the EU everywhere at the same time, the US forces would be rather split-up themselves wouldn't you say.

The United States has the logistics, manpower, and the determination to pull that off.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The United States has the logistics, manpower, and the determination to pull that off.

I love you man, you're a riot.