LucyDuke
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Uhh, girl, that's not a pickup line.
It doesn't matter. It's just that that attitude is not going to lead to success.
Maybe if you're financially or anatomically blessed!
Critique my game, or, how to pick up girls
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It doesn't matter. It's just that that attitude is not going to lead to success.
Maybe if you're financially or anatomically blessed!
aneeshm
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Good old trial and error.
Works most of the time when failure doesn't kill you, or costs a negligible amount.
Probably a bit of both.
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and that is why your never going to get laid unless its a nice traditional arranged marriage...
aneeshm
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What attitude?
Pursuing truth without giving a damn to any societal preconceptions?
It's called "honesty" and "science".
Maybe if you're financially or anatomically blessed!
I am financially still a dependent (and so are all my targets).
My height is below average.
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Which height do you refer to?
aneeshm
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Note my use of the word "height" in place of "length" or "girth".
Mise
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Well, good luck...
People keep saying that "nice guys" can't get girls, and you need some kind of secret trick into their brains (which typically requires a $14.99 DVD or something to learn), but that's not true. Girls do like nice guys. It's just that most people who think they're nice guys are actually arses. You know, the kind of arrogant prick who overanalyses things and treats women like equations to be solved? Then, when they inevitably fail, blame all woman kind for being shallow whores (because, of course, that's the only possible explanation for why they can't get girls).
People keep saying that "nice guys" can't get girls, and you need some kind of secret trick into their brains (which typically requires a $14.99 DVD or something to learn), but that's not true. Girls do like nice guys. It's just that most people who think they're nice guys are actually arses. You know, the kind of arrogant prick who overanalyses things and treats women like equations to be solved? Then, when they inevitably fail, blame all woman kind for being shallow whores (because, of course, that's the only possible explanation for why they can't get girls).
That's what I thought: women have more possibilites to choose from, and you had trouble accepting that they chose someone else. Your forgetting that there are lots of different kind of women out there, not everyone wants a tribe leader. Just be nice to them and they'll be nice to you.
You might also be making a trap to yourself: once you are a "tribe leader" and get all the women, you'll end up hating them because they chose you for what you pretend to be, not for who you are. Besides all the good girls are smart enough to notice that your pretending.
LucyDuke
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What attitude?
Pursuing truth without giving a damn to any societal preconceptions?
It's called "honesty" and "science".
You're not pursuing truth. You're treating women like projects for the science fair. You're "being patronizing" and "not understanding that relationships are not scientific".
But if honesty is your goal, go ahead and tell people "that "people" are just an intrinsically meaningless mapping, evolutionarily designed as a control system to replicate most efficiently", and see how far that gets you. Tell your potential girlfriends that "this behaviour is hardwired into their brains, the same way that there are a lot of things hardwired into my brain. It's female instinct to find and mate with the tribal leader", too. Anybody who doesn't see that as degrading and repulsive is probably the perfect woman for you.
warpus
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Most guys who think they are 'nice guys' are pushovers; one thing all girls hate.
LucyDuke
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warpus
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They'll still hate a pushover with money; the difference is that they'll sleep with him as well
aneeshm
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I have to do that if I want to figure it all out.
For some time, I have to treat a woman's brain as a black box, and find out what inputs trigger what behaviour, then try to find out the internal wiring which could lead to the known results, and repeatedly test models until I can make predictions with usable accuracy.
Why do people find the idea of impartially and scientifically studying ourselves so scary? Is it because we are afraid of what we will find?
If they follow the laws of this universe, and if this universe is rational, they have to be.
Answer me this: are they, or are they not? Am I correct, or am I wrong?
Once you understand why we are what we are, a lot of illusions drop away.
You know, I think I know the problem. You must be assuming that this analysis is a judgement on people.
Well, far from it. It's just an observation. I don't judge like that any longer. It's pointless, and doesn't help either.
Well, is it or isn't it?
Again, is what I am saying true?
Why would truth be repulsive or degrading?
Men are hardwired to be attracted to certain things, one of them being the physical pointers which indicate a woman's ability to carry on their genetic line most efficiently.
Again, I'm not judging women any longer. I don't condemn this behaviour as immoral or unethical. I don't think this is not good. I'm beyond that point now. The same way that I do not judge the laws of the physical world as "good" or "bad", knowing that such judgement is both meaningless and an actual hindrance to real understanding, I do not judge women.
Even though I have been hurt a lot in the past, a real understanding of why this happened has allowed me to not just forgive, but also completely heal and finally forget. Once you understand that certain behaviours are not in most womens' control, and that had you acted differently, you would have gotten a different result, you do not judge or hate or anything like that, you simply understand. Getting angry or judgemental about women (or men, or humans, or animals) for their behaviour is as irrational as getting angry at a computer for the way it is, or at the physical world and its laws. The programming was done by a rather brutal process of selection, and it shows.
Cease attaching moral judgements to things like this. You will be the happier for it.
aneeshm
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And who am I, exactly? Am I the person who was a total fool just four and a half years ago (not in the social sense, but in the intellectual sense)? Am I the complete weakling I became when I was seven when I suffered from near-fatal jaundice (I have an almost iron constitution now, with a solid body)? Am I the arrogant loudmouth I was back until a few months ago?
I was not any of those things. All social behaviour is learned. These techniques, tools, and models are useful for figuring out how to effectively create attraction, interest, and comfort - after which I'm on my own.
I became more intellectual with time, because I invested effort into it. I became stronger with time, because I invested effort into it. I became more humble, because I realised my folly.
And now, I move onward to becoming a more socially successful person, by investing my effort into it.
I don't think so. And even if they did, it wouldn't matter - they'd be attracted anyway.
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I promised myself not to participate into these thread's any more but I will just have this one comment.
Men have treated and continue to treat the woman's brain as black box and nobody has still (even if some people try to claim it
) yet to know what they exactly want. Then there's whole question that are you supposed to give them what they want.
Sure, you should continue testing your own ways of interacting with women just like our ancient forefathers did on their own time and just like every other man has to do on their own.
If you want to truly find person that you like, is good for you and create succesful relationship with this person, you won't have it all by reading player's guide how to pick out women.
Why?
Because they aren't called "players" for no reason.
If you want to be a player, get into the game and score, it's your thing. If you seek something else, it ain't your thing and proceeding with finding more natural way of communicating with women might help you more.
If your goal is just to learn to handle better yourself in social situations and try to learn about other people behaviour towards you, what works to you in regarding relationships, go ahead.
But just don't think people will automatically fall for you because of it. It's true that women will see through the game and it's even through that those who see through might not care about it, but it's because they have already seen past you and decided that they might like which has nothing to do with your conscious effort to be a player.
This is what people don't get. Player advices all in all are BS unless the girl is really into them. What matters is the confidence gained and the ability percept and control your behaviour as you pay more attention to yourself when being around girl compared when you don't read those advices. But all in all those advices don't work anywhere but in some specific circles, and otherwise some girls might just consider you're being total loser trying to be a player and you lose the chance with those girls that might like you if you wouldn't try to be a player.
Just a word of caution, nothing else. When it comes to picking up, figuring out and trying to hold on women, everything and everyone is fallible.
And no I'm not any "player" myself, neither I have any "game" even though I have some experience from picking out girls. But I do know people that do that basically almost for living and they would agree on me about this.
Don't know about India though or what kind of girl you're looking for. Might be different case.
But really, this is the last thing I ever say about this subject in this board.
Listen.
Men have treated and continue to treat the woman's brain as black box and nobody has still (even if some people try to claim it
) yet to know what they exactly want. Then there's whole question that are you supposed to give them what they want.Sure, you should continue testing your own ways of interacting with women just like our ancient forefathers did on their own time and just like every other man has to do on their own.
If you want to truly find person that you like, is good for you and create succesful relationship with this person, you won't have it all by reading player's guide how to pick out women.
Why?
Because they aren't called "players" for no reason.
If you want to be a player, get into the game and score, it's your thing. If you seek something else, it ain't your thing and proceeding with finding more natural way of communicating with women might help you more.
If your goal is just to learn to handle better yourself in social situations and try to learn about other people behaviour towards you, what works to you in regarding relationships, go ahead.
But just don't think people will automatically fall for you because of it. It's true that women will see through the game and it's even through that those who see through might not care about it, but it's because they have already seen past you and decided that they might like which has nothing to do with your conscious effort to be a player.
This is what people don't get. Player advices all in all are BS unless the girl is really into them. What matters is the confidence gained and the ability percept and control your behaviour as you pay more attention to yourself when being around girl compared when you don't read those advices. But all in all those advices don't work anywhere but in some specific circles, and otherwise some girls might just consider you're being total loser trying to be a player and you lose the chance with those girls that might like you if you wouldn't try to be a player.
Just a word of caution, nothing else. When it comes to picking up, figuring out and trying to hold on women, everything and everyone is fallible.
And no I'm not any "player" myself, neither I have any "game" even though I have some experience from picking out girls. But I do know people that do that basically almost for living and they would agree on me about this.
Don't know about India though or what kind of girl you're looking for. Might be different case.
But really, this is the last thing I ever say about this subject in this board.
aneeshm
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Men have treated and continue to treat the woman's brain as black box and nobody has still (even if some people try to claim it
With this attitude, nothing would ever get done for the first time.
And I'm not bothered with what they want - I'm concerned with knowing what to do so I can get what I want - a way to get to know women well, breaking the ice, and getting their attention and attraction. From there on, I want a fulfilling relationship.
warpus
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I doubt you'll get too many of those if you put on a 'mask' to get what you want.
Note my use of the word "height" in place of "length" or "girth".
Well, you're an Indian, so it's actually average for you anyway.
LucyDuke
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Well, do whatever you feel you have to do. You say "critique my game" and gripe when I say "you're looking at it the wrong way". I'll leave you to your "science". I have to thank you for a good laugh. I also sincerely wish you the best of luck, and hope you'll share the love equation with us when you find it.
By the way, am I attaching moral judgments to something? What am I judging the morality of?
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