Crusader Kings 2
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madviking
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oh i thought that was a patch thing. that's big.
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That sounds rather similar to my late ruler, conquerer of the Kingdom of Navarra and ruler of the Duchy of Gascogne. Not long after taking the throne, he fell out of love with his wife, a Byzantine princess of Norse descent. A decade or so later, a younger half-brother married a beautiful princess of West Francia. As it so happened, however, the princess took a liking to the Duke after arriving at the court, and became his new lover. With her incredible diplomatic skill of 22 providing cover, she was granted guardianship of the Duke's youngest daughter and heir.
A few years later, she became pregnant with a daughter to the Duke, but the half-brother was blissfully unaware. Just a few weeks later, she came up with a brilliant scheme to befall the still-living wife of the Duke, which, alas, failed. Another schemer's poisoned wine idea, however, would succeed.
The problem still remained that she was in an ostensibly successful marriage, and though there was a plot to kill the Duke's brother-in-law, it was weak. The Duke considered imprisoning him, but had fallen ill, and decided to wait until he regained his strength. But then an irresistible opportunity came up - a call to arms from Poitou to overthrow the Karling king of Aquitaine, who had already revoked one of Poitou's titles and now sought their entire duchy. It was off to war, with the still-secret lover appointed as regent.
And, alas, the king would not return. Dying of illness, his 13-year-old daughter took over and the West Francian princess became regent for her lover's daughter by the woman she had tried to murder with a snake. It actually was not an entirely bad situation, as the regent's 22 diplomacy means the vassals are pretty content, and the focus can be on the Karling war.
And so goes the legacy of Gartzia III of Gascogne, known by the sobriquet "The Just".
CivCube
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Is there any way to have fun with Ireland with the 51% duchy rule? It takes so long to fabricate claims as it is...my second character ended up infirm and senile for close to ten years. Lots of thumb-twiddling before one of the sons declared independence and I ragequitted.
Robert FIN
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I was playing yesterday and a really weird thing happened to me. I was attacking a county with my Casus Belli to a Byzantine count (I'm Byzantine as well) and then Pechenegs came with a large stack of units and destroyed my army and my enemies army. I'm not at war with them and my enemy is not at war with them. Why is this? A reason could be that my army walked at their lands for a small time but why did they attack my enemy too then? I really don't know what is the rule that allows them to ruin my game??? Luckily I went back to an older save and they didn't charge my army again. I'm just interested in what might be the reason for this?
Robert FIN
Emperor
Oh no, that sucks.. I've never heard of that before. Well, I checked what is raiding and seems like I must be aware of that in the future... This seems unfair for me because the army was really big...
Thanks for the advice.
madviking
north american scum
it could be that they were at war if your top level liege
Robert FIN
Emperor
Nope, the King is my top level liege and if he is at war with someone then I'm in war with the same enemy too because I'm his vassal. If I'm at war with someone, I can see that from the bottom of the screen and that was not the case..
Thanks anyways
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I ran into a bit of a bug tonight, explained by the following screenshot:
So as the Duchess of Gascogne, I had married the second son of the King of Castille martilineally. At first it seemed to be a good choice. But then I got this event. Wait a second... we're talking about the same person here!
Within a couple years, the first son had suffered an unfortunate fall from a balcony, Prince Gundemar was heir, and Prince Gundemar had declared me a rival rather than a lover as the bug progressed. Soon, he inherited Castille, and not long after I declared war on Asturias to take a province. Asturias sent out a call for aid, and Gundemar decided that it would be a good idea to declare war on his wife. He had some success, too, as Castille's troops brought the tide of war back to a stalemate. Thankfully, the Pope was understanding of the strains that being at war put on a relationship, and was willing to grant a divorce. The war continued on for a few years, but eventually I gained the province I'd sought.
Having my liege as a prisoner also worked out. I managed to cajole a couple other dukes and duchesses to support Elective Succession in Aquitaine, the King acquiesced without a fight, and after that the King's first son married my niece matrilineally. Awhile later, I started a faction for Primogeniture in the realm. No one else supported it, and the King refused to allow it, starting a war. But since he was my prisoner, I had 100% warscore instantly and was able to force the matter. I have had to help put down a couple revolts to restore Elective Monarchy, but should have a dynasty member on the throne within a few decades.
Karling-supporting has paid off abroad, too, by successfully putting the former-regent-of-my-realm wife of one of my cousins on the throne of Lotharingia. She's happy, and the next generation of Lotharingian rulers will by of my dynasty.
The other main bug I've noticed is that the pictures of people keep becoming smaller and smaller circles. I haven't figured out exactly when it's happening, but I don't recall having that in my last game.
Edit: Just realized that Spain probably isn't supposed to be Visigothic in 867, either - it wasn't in 2.0.4. I was starting to wonder when it was ever going to adopt more Spanish culture, and found this thread. It looks like Spain might be remaining Visigothic forever... oh well!
So as the Duchess of Gascogne, I had married the second son of the King of Castille martilineally. At first it seemed to be a good choice. But then I got this event. Wait a second... we're talking about the same person here!
Within a couple years, the first son had suffered an unfortunate fall from a balcony, Prince Gundemar was heir, and Prince Gundemar had declared me a rival rather than a lover as the bug progressed. Soon, he inherited Castille, and not long after I declared war on Asturias to take a province. Asturias sent out a call for aid, and Gundemar decided that it would be a good idea to declare war on his wife. He had some success, too, as Castille's troops brought the tide of war back to a stalemate. Thankfully, the Pope was understanding of the strains that being at war put on a relationship, and was willing to grant a divorce. The war continued on for a few years, but eventually I gained the province I'd sought.
Having my liege as a prisoner also worked out. I managed to cajole a couple other dukes and duchesses to support Elective Succession in Aquitaine, the King acquiesced without a fight, and after that the King's first son married my niece matrilineally. Awhile later, I started a faction for Primogeniture in the realm. No one else supported it, and the King refused to allow it, starting a war. But since he was my prisoner, I had 100% warscore instantly and was able to force the matter. I have had to help put down a couple revolts to restore Elective Monarchy, but should have a dynasty member on the throne within a few decades.
Karling-supporting has paid off abroad, too, by successfully putting the former-regent-of-my-realm wife of one of my cousins on the throne of Lotharingia. She's happy, and the next generation of Lotharingian rulers will by of my dynasty.
The other main bug I've noticed is that the pictures of people keep becoming smaller and smaller circles. I haven't figured out exactly when it's happening, but I don't recall having that in my last game.
Edit: Just realized that Spain probably isn't supposed to be Visigothic in 867, either - it wasn't in 2.0.4. I was starting to wonder when it was ever going to adopt more Spanish culture, and found this thread. It looks like Spain might be remaining Visigothic forever... oh well!
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Speaking of bugs, I just got a similar screen: Apparently i am having an affair with my own wife behind my own wife's back.
And yes, it is the same person.
And yes, it is the same person.
mechaerik
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I had to read that a few times, Quintillus.
"Seeing another man behind my spouse's back" made me think he was having a gay affair.
Nope, that event was for the duchess! An important detail!
It sounds like this bug is fairly common, then. Hopefully they'll fix it soon.
As for the picture bugs, restarting does fix them, but it's kind of annoying as it slightly breaks the immersion.
I just had a lucky event that a courtier and former mayor who I'd imprisoned for 30+ years died, and I inherited all his wealth. This amounted to over 1000 ducats, just as I was teetering on the brink of losing a holy war with the Ummayads with no way to raise the necessary additional troops. Three mercenary brigands later, and it's almost an equal battle. I'm still not sure it was a good idea to start the war, but with Lotharingia, Italy, and Aquitaine all as allies, there probably wouldn't have been a better chance for awhile.
BvBPL
Pour Decision Maker
The faithful Christians are called to crusade against the Karling Sultanate of West Francia!
Never trust a Karling. Never.
My game has gone crazy. Started in the Charlemagne period, have finally gotten my Kingdom of Sicily together although the Romans still hold the actual island of Sicily. I had the reverse situation of the above screenshot--the Sultan of Africa converted (or his heir was) to Catholicism, but they are basically the only Catholics left besides some minor Spanish and English lords. Francia is a warzone between the three big heresies, and Italy is divided between the Orthodox and Waldensians (my particular heresy which has supplanted Catholicism as the official Western Christian religion).
My game has gone crazy. Started in the Charlemagne period, have finally gotten my Kingdom of Sicily together although the Romans still hold the actual island of Sicily. I had the reverse situation of the above screenshot--the Sultan of Africa converted (or his heir was) to Catholicism, but they are basically the only Catholics left besides some minor Spanish and English lords. Francia is a warzone between the three big heresies, and Italy is divided between the Orthodox and Waldensians (my particular heresy which has supplanted Catholicism as the official Western Christian religion).
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New patches! Highlights include:
Sources:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/203770/announcements/detail/252533138567593901
http://steamcommunity.com/games/203770/announcements/detail/252533677940261794
Should be on Paradoxplaza too but the link to the thread seems to be broken.
Doesn't look like they've fixed the spouse-hates-you-because-you-are-cheating-on-them-behind-their-backs-with-your-spouse-who-is-them bug yet, though. Which is too bad; that one is rather annoying.
My game took a decided turn for the worse. I lost the Holy War, and my ruler died in debt to the Jews (for awhile the treasury was negative too, but that was fixed before he died but not before all sorts of highwaymen set up shop). His successor celebrated having wealth again by throwing a feast; most of the guests were robbed by the highwaymen on the way there and liked him less after the feast. Said successor did establish the University of Burgos, but lost the province of Dax to Aquitaine, who subsequently became very belligerent despite being in the same dynasty; this would lead me to have no choice but to trust the Karlings as allies.
This King, Nuno, would die young, and Nuno II rose to the throne at age 0 in 990 AD, and by the time of his regency ending, had decided to sport a Charlie Chaplin mustache. His would be an unfortunate reign, losing the former capital of Armagnac to Aquitaine in 998, losing a non-Holy war with the Umayyads in the early 1000s (and coming agonizingly close to victory) and once again being dirt poor, and losing Bordeaux as well. By the end of his reign, only 6 provinces were left, one an exclave. And while he'd succeeded at implementing Ultimogeniture, he'd also been forced by revolts to lower crown authority from Medium to Autonomous. The Umayyads were no longer the primary enemy; instead that was Aquitaine, with a troublesome countess responsible for both demands for lower authority taking second place.
His successor, Rodrigo, was a halfway decent diplomat, but a dunce in most respects. But Rodrigo would prove to be the most successful ruler in generations, probably since his great-great-great grandfather a century before. Pressing a claim against Asturias resulted in the first new province by conquest in close to a century (one had been gained by diplovassalizing). And a nearly-immediate war thereafter conquested the Kingdom of Galicia. By this time Aquitaine was in revolts, and Karling Italy was a faithful ally, so a province was retaken from Aquitaine. Another was lost to a revolt, but nonetheless it was a 33% growth in less than a decade when generations of more talented rulers had failed before. Clearly, the right target was more important than pure skills.
The plan for now is to continue chipping away at Asturias and, opportunistically, Aquitaine. The Ummayads can wait.
Other interesting developments are the conversion of Lithuania to the Slavic faith from Romuva, and Teviotdale, who controls most of Scotland, remaining Cathar.
- Fix crash when AI builds new holdings on Linux. That must be why it was crashing...
- Vassal levies are now dismissable (presumably from the Military view, where they weren't always before)
- Forming Hungary no longer give "exponential" numbers of troops
- Fixed some problems with the 'inbred' trait calculations - watch out cybraxkhan!
- Several EU4 converter improvements
Sources:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/203770/announcements/detail/252533138567593901
http://steamcommunity.com/games/203770/announcements/detail/252533677940261794
Should be on Paradoxplaza too but the link to the thread seems to be broken.
Doesn't look like they've fixed the spouse-hates-you-because-you-are-cheating-on-them-behind-their-backs-with-your-spouse-who-is-them bug yet, though. Which is too bad; that one is rather annoying.
My game took a decided turn for the worse. I lost the Holy War, and my ruler died in debt to the Jews (for awhile the treasury was negative too, but that was fixed before he died but not before all sorts of highwaymen set up shop). His successor celebrated having wealth again by throwing a feast; most of the guests were robbed by the highwaymen on the way there and liked him less after the feast. Said successor did establish the University of Burgos, but lost the province of Dax to Aquitaine, who subsequently became very belligerent despite being in the same dynasty; this would lead me to have no choice but to trust the Karlings as allies.
This King, Nuno, would die young, and Nuno II rose to the throne at age 0 in 990 AD, and by the time of his regency ending, had decided to sport a Charlie Chaplin mustache. His would be an unfortunate reign, losing the former capital of Armagnac to Aquitaine in 998, losing a non-Holy war with the Umayyads in the early 1000s (and coming agonizingly close to victory) and once again being dirt poor, and losing Bordeaux as well. By the end of his reign, only 6 provinces were left, one an exclave. And while he'd succeeded at implementing Ultimogeniture, he'd also been forced by revolts to lower crown authority from Medium to Autonomous. The Umayyads were no longer the primary enemy; instead that was Aquitaine, with a troublesome countess responsible for both demands for lower authority taking second place.
His successor, Rodrigo, was a halfway decent diplomat, but a dunce in most respects. But Rodrigo would prove to be the most successful ruler in generations, probably since his great-great-great grandfather a century before. Pressing a claim against Asturias resulted in the first new province by conquest in close to a century (one had been gained by diplovassalizing). And a nearly-immediate war thereafter conquested the Kingdom of Galicia. By this time Aquitaine was in revolts, and Karling Italy was a faithful ally, so a province was retaken from Aquitaine. Another was lost to a revolt, but nonetheless it was a 33% growth in less than a decade when generations of more talented rulers had failed before. Clearly, the right target was more important than pure skills.
The plan for now is to continue chipping away at Asturias and, opportunistically, Aquitaine. The Ummayads can wait.
Other interesting developments are the conversion of Lithuania to the Slavic faith from Romuva, and Teviotdale, who controls most of Scotland, remaining Cathar.
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