Hm, you're only a king, right? Dukes get the 'too small difference in titles' malus for vassalization if you're only a king. It disappears if you're emperor. As king, counts are the ones that will vassalize easily, dukes will be a problem. I think basically they have to be your culture for it to work, as IIRC you get +5 for power, -4 for small difference in titles, +3 max for relations and -2 base reluctance. The -3 or so for foreigner will push it over the edge to no.
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Oh yeah, but it's just ridiculous that I have like 15 freaking kingdoms and more soldiers than at least the next five most powerful countries put together and dukes still act like I'm a regular king.
I'm gonna form the UK after my current king dies and I conquer England for my son's wife and she dies or whatever, but still. I can steamroll any country if they buy all the mercenaries. How does this count for nothing?
I'm gonna form the UK after my current king dies and I conquer England for my son's wife and she dies or whatever, but still. I can steamroll any country if they buy all the mercenaries. How does this count for nothing?
Tell me about it. I played a full-reload-cheese game once with the express intent of conquering the whole world, and it took half an eternity to become an emperor - I started as count in Hungary, and to become an emperor I had to usurp the Byzantine Empire - which meant that just before doing so I controlled this abomination:
Speaking of that game, is there any way to take Papal States as Catholic? Because putting antipope of my own dynasty on the throne didn't do it, and my chancellor couldn't fabricate claim on the last three counties of it (I sent him there and it only showed the 2% chance of bad outcome and no possible good outcome at all). So the game experiment was a failure. A huge, purple failure:
Spoiler :
Speaking of that game, is there any way to take Papal States as Catholic? Because putting antipope of my own dynasty on the throne didn't do it, and my chancellor couldn't fabricate claim on the last three counties of it (I sent him there and it only showed the 2% chance of bad outcome and no possible good outcome at all). So the game experiment was a failure. A huge, purple failure:
Spoiler :
I'm doing the same thing, except I started as Ulster. I'm third in line for France, so just add that to the list of empires I'm just barely not able to form.
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What's your culture? If it's Irish, you'll only be able to create Brittania, and not Francia (requires Frankish/Occitan/Burgundian culture, IIRC).
I stopped doing reload games lately and play no-reload games, even though the game loves to screw with you in those - I had one as count of Caithness: "Oh, you fabricated a claim on duchy of Moray and are kicking Scotland's ass at 60% war success? Here, have your count die 'naturally' at age of 42!" "Oh, your successor is kicking Scotland's ass again? Here, have him get imprisoned in random battle and lose! And what are you saying? That he's heir to Kingdom of Norway? He can't inherit from prison now, can he, eh? Mwahahaha!" So my count's brother inherited Norway, I was his heir, I plotted assassination, plot at 180% and my count does what? Of course, he randomly becomes infirm at age of 37 and dies. Because, screw the counts of Caithness....
I tell you, the game is sometimes deliberately evil.
But I had two highly fun no-reload games lately, the current one (count of Nantes) and the one before as count of Abauj.
The Abauj game:
The current Nantes game:
And the proof of the progressive nature of my Empire of Britannia - female bishops
I stopped doing reload games lately and play no-reload games, even though the game loves to screw with you in those - I had one as count of Caithness: "Oh, you fabricated a claim on duchy of Moray and are kicking Scotland's ass at 60% war success? Here, have your count die 'naturally' at age of 42!" "Oh, your successor is kicking Scotland's ass again? Here, have him get imprisoned in random battle and lose! And what are you saying? That he's heir to Kingdom of Norway? He can't inherit from prison now, can he, eh? Mwahahaha!" So my count's brother inherited Norway, I was his heir, I plotted assassination, plot at 180% and my count does what? Of course, he randomly becomes infirm at age of 37 and dies. Because, screw the counts of Caithness....
I tell you, the game is sometimes deliberately evil.
But I had two highly fun no-reload games lately, the current one (count of Nantes) and the one before as count of Abauj.
The Abauj game:
Spoiler :
The current Nantes game:
Spoiler :
And the proof of the progressive nature of my Empire of Britannia - female bishops
Exactly. I will also own 100% of Iberia and not be able to form it due to not being Spanish.
I'm just going to mod the game to give the Irish UB to whatever Spanish and French cultures I choose in the event I can't get England for whatever reason.
Also, how the crap did you manage to get a female prince-bishop, and how much does it have to do with her 18 intrigue?
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
Find a way to create a female pope?
Apparently in my current game the old pope had a bastard girl, and her official title is "Queen-Bishop". I married her to my current ruler just for the lulz (and because she hates the current pope), and I want to see if I can, uh, press her claim on the Papcy (if that's even possible... probably not).
EDIT: Also, a new Dev Diary about Legacy of Rome is up, it talks about changes to Orthodox Christianity, and also has a screenshot featuring what looks like African portraits (so apparently there will be both Greek and African portrait DLCs): http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?636381-Legacy-of-Rome-Dev-Diary-4
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
The final Dev Diary for Legacy of Rome's just been released: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...gacy-of-Rome-Dev-Diary-5-Events-and-Decisions
While I'm disappointed that it seems like the Byzantines still retain the Western feudal style rule, the other changes look interesting, historically accurate or not.
Also, I wonder why the Byzantine portrait DLCs still have no epic beards. Byzantines need epic beards!
While I'm disappointed that it seems like the Byzantines still retain the Western feudal style rule, the other changes look interesting, historically accurate or not.
Also, I wonder why the Byzantine portrait DLCs still have no epic beards. Byzantines need epic beards!
salty mud
Deity
Beards are repulsive. They should stay far away from my Byzantine empire.
Before I'd never felt the need to play as the Byzantine empire in CK2 but with this DLC I think I just might. It doesn't matter what game you play, restoring the empire is always fun!
Before I'd never felt the need to play as the Byzantine empire in CK2 but with this DLC I think I just might. It doesn't matter what game you play, restoring the empire is always fun!
Maybe I should stop playing the small powers, as my games seem to involve mostly sitting around, stopping the odd plot, occasionally fabricating a claim on a smaller neighbour and changing succession laws once a reign.
MoreEpicThanYou
The most Epic.
I've heard there's a free mod that lets you play a Muslims (but removes all the unique features for them, so it's not like pirating SoI) but I can't find it. Anyone know where it is?
Osmowstroyer
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This games seems really good, since EUIII DW is a surely epic game, so maybe this is.
BTW, are muslims and such civs are playable? If not, is there a mod about it?
BTW, are muslims and such civs are playable? If not, is there a mod about it?
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
I advise doing some roleplaying, or doing things for the lulz (like inviting the heirs of two comletely random kingdoms and marrying them to each other - like one time I married the heir to the Castillan throne with the heir to the Hungarian throne, and tons of fun things resulted; or just doing crazy @#$% if your current character is a lunatic), or both. Makes the game much more interesting.
Non-Christians are unplayable, although the Muslims are playable with the Sword of Islam DLC. Regardless, Pagans and non-Christians and non-Muslims are playable with some mods.
You need to buy the Sword of Islam DLC addon to play as Muslims.
Polycrates
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My personal favourite is going in the other direction - starting as a small count, then incessantly plotting and scheming and generally tearing the integrity of the kingdom apart in your attempts to build your own powerbase - then frantically trying to undo the ungodly mess you've made when you finally win the crown. It really lets you bring out your inner Macbeth.
I did that externally to Scotland in my ubersave. It was pretty fun. I also sort of did it to France in that SG that mech and I killed due to our laziness.
I find starting as count is slow, but once you become a duke things start to snowball fast, and once I become a king it's basically neverending war from the on.
The Nantes game I posted screenshots from imploded eventually (after I added crowns of Poland, Hungary, Jerusalem and Denmark to it), and I retired in midst of 20-duke rebellion.
Want to try playing as muslim. Tried Ghana for a bit but I was able to form Kingdom of Mali very fast and only way to expand is into fellow muslims. Blah. Gonna try Granada I think.
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