Crusader Kings 2

[Joecoolyo]

To be honest, I was not expecting the amount of blobbing that I've come across in this game.

In my current game, France is pulling an EUIII Spain and the Byzantines are going nuts. Also the Ilkhanate, but that's kind of expected.

 

[Antilogic]

Does anyone know where the new pope code is in the game files? I want to add 10-20 years to the age of every new pope, it makes no sense for 20-year olds to be consistently nominated to head the church.

 

[Optical]

Somewhere in common? Try common/religions.

 

[Double A]

To be honest, I was not expecting the amount of blobbing that I've come across in this game.

In my current game, France is pulling an EUIII Spain and the Byzantines are going nuts. Also the Ilkhanate, but that's kind of expected.

One time I had the HRE take Flanders, then the Duke of Flanders, who had a claim on France, had his claim pushed by the Kaiser. France broke off in the next civil war, but then the Kaiser got a claim on France and pushed it later. Then after he died, I think his son broke off, along with a good portion of the Empire.

All this while, I was freaking Cumania, just happily raiding the pants off of Russians.

 

[cybrxkhan]

Does anyone know where the new pope code is in the game files? I want to add 10-20 years to the age of every new pope, it makes no sense for 20-year olds to be consistently nominated to head the church.

I think that's hardcoded, unfortunately, given the way open elective is currently determined. THere is a roundabout and complicated way (that the Prince and Thane mod uses) where in on_actions on the death of a Pope character you can generate a new character with a specific age (though you can make them start with a random age, but that'd defeat the purpose of the whole thing), but that might be a bit difficult.

 

[Double A]

Popes should probably be 50 or 60 when genned. They should also have increased based health because they're the freakin Pope.

 

[Antilogic]

Somewhere in common? Try common/religions.

I checked around in the /common folder before posting, I couldn't even find the list of papal names, much less the range of ages used for generating them.

I'm basically save-game editing to make it realistic for every pope now. Get a new pope, I go into the savegame, might change his name to something less stupid, and then add a few decades to his age. Starting to get annoying.



EDIT:

Popes should probably be 50 or 60 when genned. They should also have increased based health because they're the freakin Pope.

Sadly, low health is the only thing that causes them to die early, otherwise they all have 30+ year reigns. My editing procedure usually results in them lasting between 2 and 10 years, which I feel is fairly realistic. Sometimes, I note their character number and use the console to kill one after 2 months to simulate the very short papacies.

 

[Double A]

Maybe you could randomize their base health.

 

[cybrxkhan]

Papal names are in landed_titles.txt. It's because there's specially defined names for Popes based on the Papal title (to prevent Popes getting random Italian names). Anyhow, here's the list from vanilla CKII:

	male_names = {
		John Gregory Benedict Clement Innocent Leo Pius Stephen Boniface Urban Alexander Adrian Paul
		Celestine Martin Nicholas Sixtus Felix Sergius Anastasius Honorius Eugene Sylvester Victor
		Lucius Callixtus Julius Pelagius Adeodatus Theodore Marinus Agapetus Damasus Paschal
		Gelasius Marcellus "JohnPaul" Anacletus Evaristus Telesphorus Hyginus Anicetus Mark Hilarius 
		Simplicius Symmachus Hormisdas Silverius Vigilius Sabinian Severinus Vitalian Donus Agatho
		Conon Sisinnius Constantine Zachary Valentine Formosus Romanus Lando
	}

 

[Antilogic]

Papal names are in landed_titles.txt. It's because there's specially defined names for Popes based on the Papal title (to prevent Popes getting random Italian names). Anyhow, here's the list from vanilla CKII:

	male_names = {
		John Gregory Benedict Clement Innocent Leo Pius Stephen Boniface Urban Alexander Adrian Paul
		Celestine Martin Nicholas Sixtus Felix Sergius Anastasius Honorius Eugene Sylvester Victor
		Lucius Callixtus Julius Pelagius Adeodatus Theodore Marinus Agapetus Damasus Paschal
		Gelasius Marcellus "JohnPaul" Anacletus Evaristus Telesphorus Hyginus Anicetus Mark Hilarius 
		Simplicius Symmachus Hormisdas Silverius Vigilius Sabinian Severinus Vitalian Donus Agatho
		Conon Sisinnius Constantine Zachary Valentine Formosus Romanus Lando
	}

... that makes a lot of sense to look there, now that I think about it. Thanks for the pointer.

Do you know if you can emphasize certain names like in Europa Universalis? Or if I put down the same name three times, it's three times more likely to be selected? If so, I can save even more time.

 

[SouthernKing]

1. Someone will want to add Francis to that list methinks.
2. "Lando"?

 

[Bowsling]

The last pope to keep his baptismal name, if I'm not mistaken. It fell out of fashion after he betrayed them all to Darth Vader.

 

[Antilogic]

1. Someone will want to add Francis to that list methinks.
2. "Lando"?

The last pope to keep his baptismal name, if I'm not mistaken. It fell out of fashion after he betrayed them all to Darth Vader.

I raughed out roud when I saw Lando II in my game and then I looked up Pope Lando I to verify that he actually existed. I think there was a Marcellus afterwards that was officially the last pope to use his baptismal name, but it was already out of fashion when Lando kept his.

I actually wasn't thinking about adding Francis (but now that you mention it... ). I was going to take "John Paul" out, because double names are a modern abomination, and I was going to emphasize names like Celestine, Gregory, Innocent, Urban, and Clement that were common papal names in this period.

Yeah, I know I'm lame and I try to make sure that at least a few of the names of rulers match up to the names used historically. I got tired of kings named Ogier and Manasses for France and Waleran for England.

 

[cybrxkhan]

... that makes a lot of sense to look there, now that I think about it. Thanks for the pointer.

Do you know if you can emphasize certain names like in Europa Universalis? Or if I put down the same name three times, it's three times more likely to be selected? If so, I can save even more time.

There's no way to emphasize certain names (which is pretty annoying with normal culture names when you get a whole slew of screwed up royal name lists for places like England), and I don't know whether putting down names multiple times will work - you could try it, though, by putting "Darth Vader" or something 100000000000000 times and continuously console killing Popes to see if it works.

 

[madviking]

I was really confused when a saw a French noble with the name of Manasses because there's a town 10 minutes from where I live named Manassas.

(yes, the Manassas)

 

[madviking]

Dev Diary 1 for the Old Gods

holy sheep, Batman, navigable rivers!!

 

[cybrxkhan]

Dev Diary 1 for the Old Gods

holy sheep, Batman, navigable rivers!!

Looks cool. Navigable rivers might make things very interesting for Republics if Republics can use them.

 

[Zack]

Old Gods Dev Diary Numero Uno

 

[madviking]

Uh, Zack, look two posts above.

 

[Double A]

Late.

Looks cool. Navigable rivers might make things very interesting for Republics if Republics can use them.

I'm sure they will be. Gotland's going to be even more overpowered.