CTIV-3: Tokugawa by Sea

[Jeff1787]

Turn 303 (1365 AD)
Tokyo begins: Samurai
Military continues move toward Russia.
Kyoto finishes: Knight
Kagoshima finishes: Theatre
Nara grows: 5

Turn 304 (1370 AD)
Kyoto begins: Knight
St. Petersburg begins: Courthouse
Kagoshima begins: Worker
Tokyo begins: Knight
Kagoshima begins: Harbor
Peter wants peace....too bad!!
Edo finishes: Longbowman

Turn 305 (1375 AD)
Edo begins: Knight
Yaroslavl' begins: Library
I traded calendar to Mansa for 250 gold and Monotheism. We need the money.
Tech learned: Gunpowder
Kyoto grows: 12
Osaka finishes: Catapult
Rostov finishes: Pikeman
Yakutsk finishes: Barracks
Contact made: Persian Empire

Turn 306 (1380 AD)
I traded paper to Cyrus for Theology. I was thinking we could revolt to Theocracy. Oops!!
Research begun: Astronomy
Osaka begins: Catapult
Rostov begins: Courthouse
Yakutsk begins: Knight
Samurai loses to: Russian War Elephant (1.60/8)
Samurai defeats (8.00/8): Russian War Elephant
Samurai defeats (6.72/8): Russian Axeman
Nagoya grows: 7

Turn 307 (1385 AD)
Kyoto finishes: Knight
Osaka grows: 11
Satsuma's borders expand
Kagoshima grows: 7
Moscow grows: 5
Moscow's borders expand

Turn 308 (1390 AD)
Kyoto begins: Knight
Catapult loses to: Russian Archer (2.10/3)
Catapult loses to: Russian Archer (1.17/3)
Samurai defeats (8.00/8): Russian Archer
Samurai defeats (5.84/8): Russian Axeman
Longbowman defeats (3.36/6): Russian Archer
Axeman defeats (5.00/5): Russian Catapult
Captured Novgorod (Peter)
Only two Russian cities left.

Turn 309 (1395 AD)
Nagoya finishes: Theatre

Turn 310 (1400 AD)
Nagoya begins: Barracks
Samurai loses to: Russian Archer (1.62/3)
Samurai defeats (2.56/8): Russian Axeman
Catapult loses to: Russian Archer (0.09/3)
Catapult defeats (5.00/5): Russian Archer
Captured Vladivostok (Peter)
Only one Russian city left.
Osaka finishes: Catapult
Edo finishes: Knight
Satsuma finishes: Market

Turn 311 (1405 AD)
Osaka begins: Catapult
Edo begins: Knight
Satsuma begins: Courthouse
Samurai defeats (8.00/8): Russian Archer
Samurai loses to: Russian Axeman (0.20/5)
Samurai defeats (8.00/8): Russian Axeman
Captured Smolensk (Peter)
The Russians are no more!
Kyoto finishes: Knight
Nagoya grows: 7

Turn 312 (1410 AD)
Kyoto begins: Knight
Sending some troops back to the area of St. Peter'sburg for R & R, until we choose our next victim. We defeated Russia. The last three Russian cities cost us 3 Samurai and 3 catapults.....

The save:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/CTIV-3_AD-1410.Civ4SavedGame

Roster:
ChrTh
Jeff1787 -- Just finished
Dantski -- UP
Gemini1706 -- On deck
Morred
mjj55409

 

[ChrTh]

Why did we lose the cats? Were we attacking with them instead of bombarding?

 

[Jeff1787]

Yea, I screwed up...I attacked as a stack...I should not have used the cats, since the cities were down to zero defense......

I won't make that mistake again.

 

[ChrTh]

Well, hold on a sec. If the city is down to 0%, there's nothing wrong with attacking with a Cat as long as its against something you can beat. In my turn I was able to kill a wounded spear with a Cat because the city was down to 0%. I guess it's a matter of being judicious with your using them.

As for the game, we're about to get Astronomy. I suggest our next opponent be Mansa Musa. He's pretty weak (8th on the powerful list, last in population) and should be a quick mop-up job. Plus, he has a city on one of OUR islands! (Well, technically, they're all OUR ISLANDS.) I'd like to get the Forbidden Palace built in Moscow or St. Pete's. I'd also like to get as many cities captured/razed as possible while we have an Astronomy monopoly (I'm guessing we're going to have a monopoly for a while) -- DON'T TRADE ASTRONOMY!

EDIT: The Incas look pretty weak too. We should probably hit them after Mansa.

Also remember, there's a lot of unsettled land out there. We're better off eliminating an opponent than only partially crippling them. Also, Samurais' usefulness starts to drop with Muskets, so I guess my point is... KEEP FIGHTING!

 

[Dantski]

I reduce research to 60% then hit end turn

Turn 1

Keplar is BIFAL
Islam is founded in Memphis

Turn 5

Monty adopts Vassalage (possibly prepping for his own war).
Washington completes the Dai Miao
We meet Hatty, together with having her favourite Civic and also trading with her worst enemies we are at 0 in relations with her.

Turn 6

JC demands we cease our deals with Elizabeth, but I decline, immediately after she asks us to give her Engineering, obviously both go away unhappy.
Cyrus adopts Bureaucracy.

Turn 7

Washington completes the Hagia Sophia

Turn 10

Meet Huayna who appears to only have 4 cities, we are at 0 relations with him as well.


My last 2 turns preceded war, and considering Gemini's obvious bloodlust and the moving of most of our troops towards Mansa during these turns, it could well be war for us next turnset.

Once the borders of St Petersburg expand, get the horses hooked up and get Forbidden Palace built there ASAP. City Maitenance costs are massive at the moment

 

[Dantski]

Wouldn't let me attach save on last post so extra spam for me.

 

[ChrTh]

Roster:
ChrTh
Jeff1787
Dantski -- Just finished
Gemini1706 -- UP
Morred -- On deck
mjj55409

 

[ChrTh]

One more thing(tm): I hate galleys. We're not in an immediate rush for Astronomy, so we might want to drop science some to stockpile cash in order to upgrade our galleys once we do get Astronomy.

 

[mjj55409]

One more thing(tm): I hate galleys.

I was thinking the same thing during my turn set. First time I have mounted a major sea-based offensive with galleys. Can we say tedious and slow?

 

[ChrTh]

Another one more thing (patent pending): Don't forget about Mansa's city on our island. We should take that one first, the last thing we want is to be fighting on his island and then he attacks us from behind.

Another thing to be careful about: right now we can get Galleys across the water to Mansa's island directly because of cultural expansion. However, once we take the city on the coast, that will disappear. So if we don't wait until Astronomy, make sure you move all the troops over for the assault first -- or take that city(s) last.

 

[Dantski]

The city he has on one of our islands is only defended by 2 unpromoted skirmishers, there are no hill tiles around and one of the skirmishers was built during my turnset so its unlikely he'll have anymore before we attack there

 

[ChrTh]

The city he has on one of our islands is only defended by 2 unpromoted skirmishers, there are no hill tiles around and one of the skirmishers was built during my turnset so its unlikely he'll have anymore before we attack there

I refuse to take that risk!

 

[Gemini1706]

will play tomorrow noon. That is a fast cycle

 

[Gemini1706]

In Summary (details coming soon):

1- Started a Golden Age (Got a Merchant and using the older Engineer ) Cannot find a better use.

2- Moved forces close to Enemy front lines. Ready for attack.

3- Mostly did maintenance of city, building courthouses ..etc.

4- Ready to ATTACK

5- NEXT PLAYER may want to increase research above 60%, as we are making some money now.

 

[Gemini1706]

We should watch out for Elizy:

 

[Gemini1706]

Ware FRONT Ready

Next Player may want to add more troops and upgrades as enemy may be stronger inside their land.

 

[Gemini1706]

Coastal city is surrounded and ready for seige

 

[Gemini1706]

Turn 322 (1460 AD)
Nagoya finishes: Barracks

Turn 323 (1465 AD)
Nagoya begins: Worker
Samurai promoted: City Raider I
Kyoto finishes: Grocer
Nagoya finishes: Worker

Turn 324 (1470 AD)
Kyoto begins: Theatre
Nagoya begins: Library
Tech learned: Astronomy
Edo finishes: Samurai
Yekaterinburg finishes: Theatre
St. Petersburg's borders expand
Yaroslavl' finishes: Library
Vladivostok grows: 5

Turn 325 (1475 AD)
Research begun: Chemistry
Edo begins: Galleon
Yekaterinburg begins: Worker
Yaroslavl' begins: Worker
Samurai promoted: City Raider I
Kyoto finishes: Theatre
Osaka grows: 12
Satsuma finishes: Courthouse
Nara grows: 6
Nagoya grows: 7
Novgorod finishes: Theatre
Judaism has spread: Vladivostok

Turn 326 (1480 AD)
Kyoto begins: Globe Theatre
Satsuma begins: Forge
Novgorod begins: Courthouse
Judaism has spread: Yaroslavl'

Turn 327 (1485 AD)
Tokyo grows: 10
Rostov grows: 9

Turn 328 (1490 AD)

Turn 329 (1495 AD)
Tokyo finishes: Courthouse
Nagoya grows: 8
Yekaterinburg's borders expand

Turn 330 (1500 AD)
Tokyo begins: Grocer
Zhang Qian (Great Merchant) born in Osaka
Edo finishes: Galleon
Yakutsk grows: 6
St. Petersburg finishes: Harbor
Yaroslavl''s borders expand
Novgorod's borders expand

Turn 331 (1505 AD)
Edo begins: Heroic Epic
St. Petersburg begins: Barracks
Golden Age begins
Osaka finishes: Market
Edo grows: 13
Moscow finishes: Courthouse
Yaroslavl' finishes: Worker
Smolensk grows: 3

Turn 332 (1510 AD)
Moscow begins: Forbidden Palace
Yaroslavl' begins: Courthouse
Moscow begins: Forge
Yaroslavl' begins: Courthouse

 

[Gemini1706]

You see, I am not always bloodthirsty
I can do maintenance too.

 

[ChrTh]

Roster:
ChrTh
Jeff1787
Dantski
Gemini1706 -- Just finished
Morred -- UP
mjj55409 -- On deck