CTIV-3: Tokugawa by Sea

[Gemini1706]

Yeah, Peter is south, I think I missed it, instead of going more south I went west. My Mistake
But I did not see the orange border in game and missed reading the posts

Can somebody correct this mistake by going south again?

We will find other people anyway if we went other direction, so no hurry

 

[ChrTh]

Turn 0 -- 80 AD

Everything looks Ok, I hit Enter.

Turn 1 -- 100 AD

Kyoto: Axe > Settler (I want to get those horses).
Tokyo: Granary > Library (mm for building)

I turn off Avoid Growth in Kyoto.

Edo is built, start Work Boat.

Turn 2 -- 120 AD

*whistling*

Turn 3 -- 140 AD

Galley sleeping in Osaka waiting for Settler (will grab Axe from Osaka for troop)

Turn 4 -- 160 AD



Turn 5 -- 180 AD

Math is in, I got for Meditation > Priesthood so we can build Temples

Turn 6 -- 200 AD

Osaka builds Axeman, starts Worker ... tempted to whip right away, but hold off

Barbs in the West, I send out some Axeman to take a look

Turn 7 -- 210 AD

Crack in Osaka for Worker

Turn 8 -- 220 AD

Meditation comes in .. I have doubts on my Temple plan since we don't have religion yet, so I go with Horseback Riding instead.

Osaka: Worker > Galley (would like to have a second one for exploring since the other is not slated for Settling duty). Worker heads up North to help with Road to Edo/Iron.

Turn 9 -- 230 AD

We're almost out of cash, so I have to drop Science to 90%

Turn 10 -- 240 AD

Kyoto: Settler > Worker (can switch to Settler or Axe if you want)
Moses is BIFAL.

Axeman has destroyed a Barb (although came perilously close to dying) ... has promotions available to help with healing.

Settler is on his way to Osaka and the current Galley (already loaded with an Axe). Peter has already settled on the Eastern island :grr: .. fortunately, the horse is still available (I would think the spot 1 tile South of the Horse is the best place to settle)

Here's the save:
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Roster
ChrTh -- Just finished
Jeff1787 -- UP
Dantski --On deck
Gemini1706
Morred
mjj55409

 

[Jeff1787]

I hit enter.

Confucianism founded in a distant land

Turn 155 (250 AD)

Turn 156 (260 AD)
Osaka grows: 5

Turn 157 (270 AD)
Edo finishes: Work Boat

Turn 158 (280 AD)
Edo begins: Lighthouse
Satsuma founded
Satsuma begins: Lighthouse

Turn 159 (290 AD)
Kyoto finishes: Worker
Osaka finishes: Galley
Edo grows: 2

Turn 160 (300 AD)
Kyoto begins: Axeman
Osaka begins: Settler
Tech learned: Horseback Riding

Turn 161 (310 AD)
Research begun: Metal Casting
Axeman promoted: Woodsman I
Axeman promoted: Woodsman II
Axeman promoted and healed....heading north.

Turn 162 (320 AD)

Turn 163 (330 AD)
Kyoto finishes: Axeman

Turn 164 (340 AD)
Kyoto begins: Axeman

The other galley is heading south to explore. Worker is building a pasture for the horses.

Here is our little empire:

The save file:

 

[Jeff1787]

Roster
ChrTh
Jeff1787 -- Just finished
Dantski --UP
Gemini1706 --On deck
Morred
mjj55409

 

[Jeff1787]

Here is our current info screen:

 

[Morred]

That's a nifty little empire we have going, keep it up guys!

 

[Dantski]

I have eet

 

[chriseay]

Lurker Question: Is the demographics screen in the last post a modded screen, or is there an option to turn on the view of which rival has which value?

 

[Dantski]

Turn 0 340 AD
I decide to whip Edo immediately for the Lighthouse. I also MM a couple tiles in Kyoto, plus avoiding growth.

T1 350 AD
Edo Lighthouse -> Granary
Worker wanders over to build an Iron mine. The route for the Sheep can wait a few turns.

T3 370 AD
A mine is completed in Kyoto, it now has muchos hammeros at 12.

T4 380 AD
Tokyo Grows to size 6
Tokyo Library -> Barracks
Edo Grows to size 2
Kyoto Axeman -> Spearman
Peter offers us open borders, I see no reason to decline as we can peek at his cities defenses early on.
With Tokyo now at its happiness limit I avoid growth.

T5 390 AD
Horse Pasture in Satsuma completed, before building a route however, I send our worker to chop a forest before Peters border expands and quicken up our lighthouse.

T6 400 AD
I built a fun fun fun happy happy cottage in Kyoto. It was so exciting I could barely control myself.

T7 410 AD
A forest chop in Edo has severely hastened the Granary there this turn. I use the aforementioned worker to build the route for dah Sheep. Moving an axe close to Peters city reveals that Rostov has 2 archs (one city promoted) for defence. *

T8 420 AD
Kyoto Spear -> Aqueduct
Osaka Settler -> Spear

T9 430 AD
Edo Grows to Size 3
With our southern Galley, I spot one of Peters galleys heading NW, has a settler and archer on board.* Iron mine also completed in Edo.

T10 440 AD
Sheep are now hooked up and I start a farm for Edo.

* See pictures on next post

 

[Dantski]

Here be pictures of Rostov's defenses, the galley we met south and finally a closeup of Edo, which won the award for 'Most interesting City of my turn'.

 

[ChrTh]

We have an interesting situation ahead of us. Do we try to match Peter's settler output, or do we simply take all of the cities he builds for us?

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ChrTh
Jeff1787
Dantski -- Just finished
Gemini1706 --UP
Morred --On deck
mjj55409

 

[Jeff1787]

Maybe we should let Peter do our settling for us!!! We can build military and galleys.....

Or we can settle some ourselves and take cities later.....

I prefer the military path.

 

[ChrTh]

Maybe we should let Peter do our settling for us!!! We can build military and galleys.....

Or we can settle some ourselves and take cities later.....

I prefer the military path.

To be honest, I do too since it's more in line with this variant, but it's a lot harder to take cities than in the past, so in an ROI assessment it might be 'cheaper' to build as many cities as we can ourselves. We should also definitely target resources before geography (i.e. we don't need to settle every tile on an island before we move on to the next if the next has better resources).

 

[Dantski]

Since Rostov would seem incredibly easy to take and I'm all for taking them out before those Cossacks appear...

Some if you please.

 

[Jeff1787]

Since we have to put a city on every island, we will need to do that before conquest victory. So, we will need to do quite a bit of our own settling. That will take a settlers, a strong military, timing, and luck!

 

[Jeff1787]

Since Rostov would seem incredibly easy to take and I'm all for taking them out before those Cossacks appear...

Some if you please.

I agree.......Get them while the getting is good.

 

[Morred]

I'm all for it.

 

[Gemini1706]

A few intersting events: WAR, WAR and more WAR (ok, maybe ONE war )

Turn 174 (440 AD)
Tech learned: Metal Casting
Tokyo finishes: Barracks
Satsuma grows: 2
Satsuma finishes: Lighthouse

Turn 175 (450 AD)
Tokyo begins: Settler
Satsuma begins: Axeman
Research begun: Alphabet
Axeman promoted: Cover
Tokyo's borders expand
Edo finishes: Granary

Turn 176 (460 AD)
Edo begins: Barracks
Osaka grows: 6
Osaka finishes: Spearman
Satsuma finishes: Axeman
Christianity founded in a distant land

Turn 177 (470 AD)
Osaka begins: Forge
Satsuma begins: Barracks
Spearman promoted: Combat II

Turn 178 (480 AD)

Turn 179 (490 AD)
Osaka's borders expand
Edo grows: 4

Turn 180 (500 AD)
Axeman defeats (1.20/5): Russian Archer
Axeman defeats (0.25/5): Russian Archer
Captured Rostov (Peter)

Turn 181 (510 AD)
Axeman promoted: Combat II
Axeman promoted: Combat II
Edo finishes: Barracks
Satsuma finishes: Barracks

Turn 182 (520 AD)
Edo begins: Axeman
Satsuma begins: Galley
Tech learned: Alphabet

Turn 183 (530 AD)
Research begun: Construction
Rostov begins: Archer

 

[Gemini1706]

I did not see the settler in one Galley, so I wasted its time exploring, finally realized it then moved it south.

Maybe next time you guys should show some plan where you want to settle and give heads up for the plans

 

[Gemini1706]

Explored Peter's land a little.
Not bad resources, but looks like his capital is still size 4
I think he is expanding and settling like a mad man.