ChrTh
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CTR1 -- Jump Without Looking (the Deity Virgin Sacrifice)
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Somthing I think we should consider is putting a couple of dozen tanks in boats and shipping them to Brighton.
If we take out Allegheny and Brighton on the first turn then England will have no oil as Earp said earlier.
Another thing I didn't do was put our army in a boat. This was because I thought it may be needed against a Persian sneak attack. Obviously the army would be a solid way of holding up the Artillery as it was against India.
Last point. When do we put a spy in Persia? I think we should do it the same turn we attempt the tech steal.
If we take out Allegheny and Brighton on the first turn then England will have no oil as Earp said earlier.
Another thing I didn't do was put our army in a boat. This was because I thought it may be needed against a Persian sneak attack. Obviously the army would be a solid way of holding up the Artillery as it was against India.
Last point. When do we put a spy in Persia? I think we should do it the same turn we attempt the tech steal.
I see it, I'll get it tonight.
@Mad: Do we have a spy in England now? It's my experience it takes a few tries when they're a democracy.
@Mad: Do we have a spy in England now? It's my experience it takes a few tries when they're a democracy.
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No. I didn't think it necessary ATM as they will never get to Space. 
Ideally we would like one before war, but I didn't want to precipitate war just yet. So I didn't take the risk. It might be worth stealing their plans just to see how many and what types of unit they have. The war is going to be bloody, and needs to start b4 they get computers really. Although they are broke they can still draft.
Once we have 100 tanks then I would plant spies and steal techs until they declare.
We need a spy in Persia soon. But I think we can wait until they ar at war with England. I get nervous when playing waiting turns
I wonder what would have happened if Persia had called a vote?
Ideally we would like one before war, but I didn't want to precipitate war just yet. So I didn't take the risk. It might be worth stealing their plans just to see how many and what types of unit they have. The war is going to be bloody, and needs to start b4 they get computers really. Although they are broke they can still draft.
Once we have 100 tanks then I would plant spies and steal techs until they declare.
We need a spy in Persia soon. But I think we can wait until they ar at war with England. I get nervous when playing waiting turns
I wonder what would have happened if Persia had called a vote?
He probably knows he won't win and therefore doesn't call it... (what would *you* do?).
I did just now 
edit: Shall we go On Topic again?
edit: Shall we go On Topic again?
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OK. So I've had a look at the save again to try to gauge where we are at.
Persia have had Rocketry for 20 turns at least. They have computers too. They will have started their SSS I imagine. So I would plant a spy immediately. I have an awful feeling that they have half a dozen parts built. Having said that, they are still in communism so satellites should still be a way off.
England may have mech inf now, so it is pointless delaying the war. Also their military alliance with Persia has ended.
I would ship all our units to England and steal radio. If that doesn't get a war started, then just declare. Persia will be forced to join in anyway on our side.
I would also mobilise for war. Just change all production in england to settlers first.
I would try to take Allegheny and a couple of other cities too on the first turn. Make sure you take the English city on our continent, otherwise the Persians will.
A lot depends upon what the spy tells us. I just have a horrible feeling we are in for a nasty surprise.
I vote we go for it now.
Persia have had Rocketry for 20 turns at least. They have computers too. They will have started their SSS I imagine. So I would plant a spy immediately. I have an awful feeling that they have half a dozen parts built. Having said that, they are still in communism so satellites should still be a way off.
England may have mech inf now, so it is pointless delaying the war. Also their military alliance with Persia has ended.
I would ship all our units to England and steal radio. If that doesn't get a war started, then just declare. Persia will be forced to join in anyway on our side.
I would also mobilise for war. Just change all production in england to settlers first.
I would try to take Allegheny and a couple of other cities too on the first turn. Make sure you take the English city on our continent, otherwise the Persians will.
A lot depends upon what the spy tells us. I just have a horrible feeling we are in for a nasty surprise.
I vote we go for it now.
ChrTh
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I bet Space thought she was going to have a quiet 5 turns like I did 
Does anyone know whether you can try to plant a spy several times during one turn (and have a chance at suceeding that is)? I seem to rembember you can't. It usually takes several tries and so will take several turns.
Furthermore, Persia has an MMP with England too. If we are the aggressor, Persia will declare *US*. Sooo, I would still like to try and get *them* to declare. We should have started planting spies and stealing earlier (eg right after Earp turns ), but we can still do so now.
I think a rightout declaration would defeat our plans and I'm not just saying that because I want quiet turns...
To tell you the truth I'm starting to develop quite a taste for warfare (all due to Mad's patient training ).edit: Couldn't stop myself adding an "I told you so".
ChrTh
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When I had the game, the Persia/English MPP was no longer in existence.
Cool! 
I'll see what I can do... 
I'll see what I can do...
I have an ethical question for you guys, here's what happened in the first 2 1/2 turns:
goals:
Spy and steal Radio from in England
Spy in Persia
Start the war to end all wars.
pre-turn:
We can't afford any stealing at all and only one spy, thanks for the advice, Mad!
I decide to try to plant a spy in England first thing and... we succeed we have a spy in England.
They have 1 tank and 44 Mech Infs 
, 52 Infs and 12 cavs. 15 bombers and 2 carriers. England has not started spaceship parts yet...
I can't move the ships yet to fetch the Army, so... press enter
IT:
Lizzy wants an ROP, I tell her no... but trade TM for TM, she thinks it's a gracious offer.
Grand River worker -> walls
Osaka Tank -> Tank
Jaipur worker -> Lib
St. Louis Tank -> Tank
Indus worker -> rax
Ganges worker -> lib
Pune worker -> rax
New Dehli worker -> rax
Dark chocolate tank -> tank
baltimore market -> tank
edo factory -> tank
satsuma tank -> tank
Cincinnati worker -> tank
1430AD - turn 1:
Plant a spy in Persia at first try again, we don't want him mad at us. On to the spaceship frame and ... Persia is *not* building parts yet, phew.
Hurry Aqueduct in Nagasaki.
We're too poor to steal anything, so I "demand" Radio from Lizzy, who has the guts to be polite...!
She thinks it's extortion
and she doen't give in, she's now cautious.
IT:
Paris worker -> rax
Seattle tank -> Tank
Kolhapur worker -> rax
Sirp-orange Tank -> Tank
Nagasaki Aqueduct -> Tank
Bengal riots, gets a taxman.
Nagoya worker -> rax
Suo worker -> lib
1435AD - turn 2:
England now has 48 Mech Infs so Mad's right they are getting too strong, but I want the army down south and it just can't reach. There's a battleship patrolling so I can't declare yet...
I tell her to remove the annoying ship, she says she will. She's still cautious. If I don't hurry too many things we can try to steal Radio. Check Persia, still Polite.
Workers are irrigating like mad.
IT:
Lizzy moves her battleship away, getting scared girl...?
Kyoto Tank -> Tank
New York Hospital -> Tank
Madras worker -> rax
calcutta worker -> court
San Fran Tank -> Tank
Karachi worker -> rax
Miami Tank -> Tank
Dark chocolate tank -> tank
New Orleans Factory -> Tank
Denver Hospital -> Tank
Mamphis Tank -> Tank
New Karachi Harbor -> Arty
1440AD - turn 3:
Check F10, Persia started 3 SSS parts. It goes down guys, hold on. The Army arrived to protect our arties.
England has 50 Mech Infs and 2 Tanks. I try to steal Radio, at the lowest cost/chance and fail she catches us and is now Annoyed.
Aaaarggghhh, the game crashes on me, that's a first. Rather new comp, lots of memory, super fast chip etc. and it still complains about a "drawbuffer failure". Thank god for autosaves....
I'll try and do the things I did in the same sequence.
Errrm, I must have done something different, because this time our stealing attempt succeeds, I don't know whether I should be pleased or not
, but there you have it we can buld bombers now.
Should I switch to producing bombers or should we play on as though we did *not* succeed?
goals:
Spy and steal Radio from in England
Spy in Persia
Start the war to end all wars.
pre-turn:
We can't afford any stealing at all and only one spy, thanks for the advice, Mad!
I decide to try to plant a spy in England first thing and... we succeed we have a spy in England.
They have 1 tank
and 44 Mech Infs , 52 Infs and 12 cavs. 15 bombers and 2 carriers. England has not started spaceship parts yet...I can't move the ships yet to fetch the Army, so... press enter
IT:
Lizzy wants an ROP, I tell her no... but trade TM for TM, she thinks it's a gracious offer.
Grand River worker -> walls
Osaka Tank -> Tank
Jaipur worker -> Lib
St. Louis Tank -> Tank
Indus worker -> rax
Ganges worker -> lib
Pune worker -> rax
New Dehli worker -> rax
Dark chocolate tank -> tank
baltimore market -> tank
edo factory -> tank
satsuma tank -> tank
Cincinnati worker -> tank
1430AD - turn 1:
Plant a spy in Persia at first try again
, we don't want him mad at us. On to the spaceship frame and ... Persia is *not* building parts yet, phew.Hurry Aqueduct in Nagasaki.
We're too poor to steal anything, so I "demand" Radio from Lizzy, who has the guts to be polite...!
She thinks it's extortion
and she doen't give in, she's now cautious.IT:
Paris worker -> rax
Seattle tank -> Tank
Kolhapur worker -> rax
Sirp-orange Tank -> Tank
Nagasaki Aqueduct -> Tank
Bengal riots, gets a taxman.
Nagoya worker -> rax
Suo worker -> lib
1435AD - turn 2:
England now has 48 Mech Infs so Mad's right they are getting too strong, but I want the army down south and it just can't reach. There's a battleship patrolling so I can't declare yet...
I tell her to remove the annoying ship, she says she will. She's still cautious. If I don't hurry too many things we can try to steal Radio. Check Persia, still Polite.
Workers are irrigating like mad.
IT:
Lizzy moves her battleship away, getting scared girl...?
Kyoto Tank -> Tank
New York Hospital -> Tank
Madras worker -> rax
calcutta worker -> court
San Fran Tank -> Tank
Karachi worker -> rax
Miami Tank -> Tank
Dark chocolate tank -> tank
New Orleans Factory -> Tank
Denver Hospital -> Tank
Mamphis Tank -> Tank
New Karachi Harbor -> Arty
1440AD - turn 3:
Check F10, Persia started 3 SSS parts. It goes down guys, hold on. The Army arrived to protect our arties.
England has 50 Mech Infs and 2 Tanks. I try to steal Radio, at the lowest cost/chance and fail she catches us and is now Annoyed.
Aaaarggghhh, the game crashes on me, that's a first.
Rather new comp, lots of memory, super fast chip etc. and it still complains about a "drawbuffer failure". Thank god for autosaves....I'll try and do the things I did in the same sequence.
Errrm, I must have done something different, because this time our stealing attempt succeeds, I don't know whether I should be pleased or not
, but there you have it we can buld bombers now.
Should I switch to producing bombers or should we play on as though we did *not* succeed?
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What do you want bombers for space? The Persians have plenty, use theirs.
IIRC The MPP between England and Persia has expired.
Does Persia have Ecology? It's important.
I think we'll need ten turns to do for England (God save the queen
) and a further 5 to ten to join all the workers in and fill the cultural gaps. If Persia don't have Ecology then we may be able to wait till the end of your turn for a war declaration. Otherwise you'll have to fly the tanks over and get stuck in.
We are 8 turns from a UN vote we may now lose too. So Persia has to be sucked in to the war.
How many turns left on our MPP with Persia?
I thought we had more tanks than that too. I'm sure I left the game with 74
Any road up. I doubt this game will come back to me. HAve fun with probably your last turn in this game.
IIRC The MPP between England and Persia has expired.
Does Persia have Ecology? It's important.
I think we'll need ten turns to do for England (God save the queen
) and a further 5 to ten to join all the workers in and fill the cultural gaps. If Persia don't have Ecology then we may be able to wait till the end of your turn for a war declaration. Otherwise you'll have to fly the tanks over and get stuck in.We are 8 turns from a UN vote we may now lose too. So Persia has to be sucked in to the war.
How many turns left on our MPP with Persia?
I thought we had more tanks than that too. I'm sure I left the game with 74
Any road up. I doubt this game will come back to me. HAve fun with probably your last turn in this game.
ChrTh
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Keep playing as is, Space. It's not like you deliberately cheated.
Originally posted by mad-bax
I thought we had more tanks than that too. I'm sure I left the game with 74
Look at the dates, Mad, and you'll see what happend to your Tanks... seems I played ChrTh's save instead of yours. I must have been but half awake yesterday.
I'll leave it up to you to decide how I should continue. I don't mind playing again from your save on or continue we we are now, I'll now go and hide in a corner for now, if you don't mind.
OK, I will play again tonight.
ChrTh
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Ahem, sorry...
Hey, he's laughing at me, not fair! 
